User talk:Oravrattas

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Oravrattas/Archive 2 on 2016-04-02.

Hi, this is a report for an issue on Talk:Q26252334 where the bot is putting first and second ambassadors in the wrong order, probably because the starting date is the same (because date precision is not enough, and I don't know the date more precisely), even if series ordinal (P1545), replaces (P1365) and replaced by (P1366) are set correctly.

Could you please look at it? Thanks.

Hi Oravrattas! As on the fall of 2021, you added ambassador to a country (Q29645886) to several ambassadors for instance of (P31) (example). I think it was a correct edit series and a good structure. Now an anon has been deleting this value for weeks and changing the structure of the elements without initiating a discussion about it. I don't think that's right, but I'm interested in your opinion. Thanks.

Hi, I'm afraid I agree with them on this. I try to use the structure that is most common, because introducing variations on that makes it much harder to query, but I think the current ambassadorial structure is confusing, and awkwardly different from how we usually model position items.

I understand. What is your suggestion to indicate ambassador to a country (Q29645886) in this new structure? Or do we skip it?

I don't think it would exist on an individual position item like ambassador of Germany to Estonia (Q23905158), but it would still exist as a subclass on items such as ambassador to Estonia (Q29970877).

All right, thank you!

EduMinOfIndia is the right Twitter username for the Page. You can verify itaswell. Please correct it.

https://www.education.gov.in/en is the website for the Q4294642 page the IP mentioned. Please change that aswell.

Would you considered adding a task for your "Position holder bot" that would check for instance of position (within scope of the bot of course) and add the Template:PositionHolderHistory to the talk page? This would generate Category:Position holder history, add a useful table to check position for gaps and could increase the visibility for the wikiproject every politician. I also ask I added 665 new public office positions (Mayors in the United States) and and instead of writing a script to do this once I thought it might be more useful to make a maintenance script that would cover all positions in scope of the template and automate monitoring to add the template in the future. The bot task might query with a patterns such as "Mayor of a place in *" and Iterate over the Q talk pages to check and add the template.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm quite hesitant to start automatically adding this everywhere, partially because it's quite tricky to decide programatically which positions it makes sense for and which it doesn't, but more because running this against even the few thousand positions it has currently been adding to is quite time-consuming, and adding, say, even every mayoral position would increase that by an order of magnitude.

I certainly wouldn't object if you, or someone else, were to add it much more widely, but if that's to be done by a bot, I'd definitely prefer it to be a standalone one, rather than adding it into the Position holder bot itself.

Q4294642 and Q12454125 should be merged. Both represents same page. wikipidea links are redirect pages. New name is "Ministry of education" and move everything into that page.

Each of these has a separate hiwiki page, so they cannot be merged. It is common practice for the different historical versions of a Ministry to have separate Wikidata items, even if those all get combined into one page on a Wikipedia.

Hi, just to let you know, your diff 1461528513 is probably correct, I did not check properly after reverting "Indonesian Politician" descriptions.

Great, thanks. I also added much more detail to the original bare claim (which IIRC was a bulk import based on enwiki Category membership) based on digging into this a bit more, so all good!

Haven't seen you in a while. Hope all is well!

Hello,

I'm pretty new to Wikidata, but thought I'd try to update Wikidata:WikiProject every politician/United States of America to have entries for every congress (i.e. term) of the U.S. Congress. Separately I've collected data on all historical U.S. Senators and plan on uploading that data shortly.

I'm a little confused as to why my recent change to pass the terms parameter to the Template:Every Politician/Legislature table row template isn't working. Being new, I'm not sure how to debug the issue. I only added Wikidata:WikiProject every politician/United States of America/Congresses moments ago. Do I need to wait for some bot to run for these terms to show up on Wikidata:WikiProject every politician/United States of America the way they do on Wikidata:WikiProject every politician/Scotland?

Any tips you could offer would be appreciated.

Thanks

It looks like it's worked to me. Perhaps you had a cached version?

Possibly, but I'm still not seeing anything more than the Current Members link under Member lists, where I was expecting to see a bullet item for each Congress. I tried refreshing the browser cache. Is there something else I should try?

Do I need to manually create a Listeria list for each Congress like this one? Wikidata:WikiProject every politician/Scotland/data/Parliament/1st Parliament

Ah, adding a 'terms' parameter doesn't change anything there: it changes the 'all terms' link in the first column.

Once relevant pages are created under United States of America/data/Senate/ they'll appear in the second column.

FWIW, It's pretty clearly harassment to me. I have a pretty thick skin, so I thought I'd give him every opportunity to drop the bullying. It also helps to lay bare what he's doing. It's also clearly a conduct issue because he avoids all discussion of the content.

Oddly, he seems to concede that Teester's model is acceptable here. [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions&diff=1257610452&oldid=1257609418]

Also, I explained my plan here [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat&diff=1258054898&oldid=1258050860], but he keeps asking me to link old chats. It's clearly meant as busy work to scare me off wanting to contribute.

Moreover, as I mentioned here [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gettinwikiwidit&diff=1257471105&oldid=1257466606] this obviates his complaints about Teester's model, namely that the addition disrupted bots. Separating the property used for the two types of position entries means both can co-exist. I'm not sure he really cared that much the first time around though since he has done nothing to resolve it in over a year (two?)

Thanks for your help.

FWIW, on MisterSynergy's talk page Jura1 tried to have me completely blocked and reiterated his complaints about your funding. I for one don't care too terribly much about what people's motivations to contribute are. I would just like the data to be useful.

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Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email surveys@wikimedia.org.

You can see my explanation here.

Hi, many articles you edit with QuickStatements (Lluís Puig i Gordi (Q31837305), Raquel Casviner Cañellas (Q63351546), Meritxell Lluís i Vall (Q59343390), Raül Romeva (Q2065232), ...), were already correct

I can't quite understand the modelling here. What is the connection between Q61744680 and Q63825349?

Q63825349 is the specific data from Q61744680 in the electoral district of Barcelona

In which of these did a given candidate stand?