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Undelete item request

Hello, I think my item(Q131842488) was deleted due to insufficient resources. Sorry, the necessary resources are there but I couldn't add it because I didn't know how to add it. How can I make up for this? --Paratonigial (talk)

CC @Lymantria There's something strange going on here. This request was added by Hsynozer but they're signing it as Paratonigial. Do you think this is a sock farm? Bovlb (talk) 21:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Likely so. --Lymantria (talk) 22:03, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I had to write from this account, which I could not access the login information for. Hsynozer (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Can you explain why you're operating multiple accounts? Bovlb (talk) 22:18, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

As I mentioned, I opened a different account because I couldn't access the information of my other account. Since I opened a item from the other account, I added that username as a signature so you can understand. Since I'm new here, I didn't know that such things were very important. If you look at my history on my accounts, you can see that I don't have bad intentions. I'm sorry for that again. I'm trying to learn. Hsynozer (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

OK. I'm going to assume good faith here and undelete and merge Q131842488 and Q131450202. Please try to add claims that establish notability soon. You might find it helpful to read User:Bovlb/How to create an item on Wikidata so that it won't get deleted. Bovlb (talk) 23:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your interest and help. I will add the necessary information very soon. Hsynozer (talk) 23:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I have added a source for the relevant occupation. I want to make sure I did it correctly. Could you please review it? I hope I did it right Hsynozer (talk) 00:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Undelete item request

Hi, I noticed that my item (Q131520457) was deleted. This is because it was my first item in wikidata and I dedicated myself (badly) to learn while doing it and spent days with tabs open. Before I try to create it again, or any other, can you recommend me where to learn how to properly create an item in wikidata with all its connections? --Jluismendoza (talk) 04:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

I have undeleted the item for you. Please try to add some claims soon.

You might find it useful to read this essay: User:Bovlb/How to create an item on Wikidata so that it won't get deleted Bovlb (talk) 04:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Still empty, so deleted again. Bovlb (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Undelete item request

Hi, I noticed that my item (Q131507227) was deleted. Could you please restore it? I created the page on my phone, but I realized that the mobile version of Wikidata didn’t offer the editing tools I needed. My plan was to log in from my computer to complete the edits as intended. I’m sorry for leaving the page empty for a few hours — I didn’t realize that would be an issue. Thank you for your understanding. Coinhote (talk) 20:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Done! Please add some claims soon. Bovlb (talk) 20:17, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Undelete item request

Q124047639 I didn't request it to be deleted. Despite his biographers being promotional or commissioned, he has many sources, as many as Q124850134 (recreation of Q111605184), that would warrant a bio if well written, and is notable according to Wikidata policy due to having a category for him in Commons. LIrala (talk) 17:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

It seems Q126392982 can be deleted now. But it has valid IMDb ID entry, so is she notable? LIrala (talk) 17:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I deleted Q124047639 because it appeared to be a recreation of deleted items Q122271864, Q115332329, Q121725985, Q122389036, Q121307132. This means that we have already made a decision that this entity does not satisfy our notability criteria. To appeal this decision, see Wikidata: Guide to requests for undeletion. The original deleting admins were @Saroj and @MisterSynergy. Bovlb (talk) 18:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh I see. He is now president of Q124003243. LIrala (talk) 18:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Have you edited Wikidata under any other accounts? Bovlb (talk) 18:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not the person who created these items. I found these items in Listeria lists through Wikiproyecto LGBT+ from es.wiki. LIrala (talk) 18:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Attention Needed

@Bovlb, please kindly check this, it's not notable for wikidata page Bagalamama (talk) 19:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Its notability is thin, but it does have a number of identifiers. If you thing it should be deleted, please post on WD:RFD. Bovlb (talk) 19:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bovlb I think you understand it better than I do, so I won't bother posting it on WD:RFD. I really have much to say concerning it and how I came across this very page. But let me remain silent for now.

Bagalamama (talk) 19:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of Q111309835

Hi, I've seen you deleted Q111309835 for being a recreation of Q124540151, which is a redirection you created pointing to the entity you deleted. This entity is used as the director of I.D. (Q5967800). What should be done in cases like this? The options I see are restoring the deleted entity or undoing the redirect. -- Agabi10 (talk) 13:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

That is confusing. I'm not sure how it happened.

Should be fixed now. Apologies for the inconvenience. Bovlb (talk) 16:51, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Wikidata deleted search

Hi, Bovlb, Thanks for this tool. There seems to be a bug now, since when I login the tool says "Hello Lymantria Sorry. You do not have permission to use this tool". Lymantria (talk) 12:36, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure what's going on, but I recently added caching of permissions to improve performance. I've disabled that cache for now. Please try again. Bovlb (talk) 15:28, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

It's working fine again. --Lymantria (talk) 08:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Excellent.

Do you have any feedback about how the tool is working for you? I recently pushed out a few UI enhancements.

My original conception was that I was building a proof-of-concept or prototype that the WMF would take over. (See phab:T297513.) It doesn't look like that's happening. Bovlb (talk) 15:55, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

It's a fine tool. I do like the tick boxes a lot. --Lymantria (talk) 21:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Please remove the block

User:Bovlb, the block you imposed on me here has seriously hindered my work on Wikipedia as I cannot access TWL while the block is in force. I will take my grievances directly to the WMF as it applies to the Justapedia Foundation and Justapedia "eternally" being referenced as a mirror or fork of Wikipedia. I can see it being a fork if/when a forked Justapedia article is added here but if it's a newly created article, then the designation is unwarranted for that article, and as it applies to the entire encyclopedia. In the interim, I will not be contributing to this site so your block is unnecessary. Atsme (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for following up. I'm not sure what you mean by "TWL" here. The block could have been lifted a week ago, but neither of you seems to have made any effort to resolve the content dispute. The point of this block is to stop both of you from edit warring and find more constructive ways to collaborate. It's not intended to be something that you just wait out so you can resume the edit war. Bovlb (talk) 22:25, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Looking at en:User_talk:Nikkimaria#Issue_w.2FTWL, I think you may be referring to The Wikipedia Library (Q16463359). I was unaware that they checked for active blocks, but that seems like a reasonable approach. It should provide additional motivation for you to do what's needed to have the block lifted. Looking at About the Wikipedia Library, I see that: "If your account is blocked on one or more Wikimedia projects, you may still be granted access to The Wikipedia Library. You will need to contact the Wikipedia Library team, who will review your blocks. If you have been blocked for content issues, most notably copyright violations, or have multiple long-term blocks, we may decline your request. Additionally, if your block status changes after being approved, you will need to request another review.". The fact that the block could have been lifted a week ago but you chose not to would probably not look good in a review. Bovlb (talk) 16:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Bovlb, they chose to admin shop at User talk:DannyS712. I also noticed they made personal attacks in the edit summaries on Justapedia. So I hope you don't mind that I've upgraded their block to sitewide, with those personal attacks (see their talk page for diffs) as another reason. Frankly, I was tempted to make the block indefinite with unblock contingent on a topic ban from Justapedia, but decided to defer that to their next offense.--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:09, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Undelete items request

Hi, I noticed that my item (Q131827441) was deleted. This is because it was my first item in wikidata and I dedicated myself (badly) to learn while doing it and spent days with tabs open. Before I try to create it again, or any other, can you recommend me where to learn how to properly create an item in wikidata with all its connections? Devidkelvinn (talk) 02:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for following up. I put a notice on your talk page that should give you more information about why Q131827441 was deleted, and how to appeal this decision. In this case, the original deleting admins were @Emu, Lymantria, Stang. Bovlb (talk) 02:22, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Undelete request – Daryl Hagler

Hi Bovlb. I'd like to request the undeletion of Q126689242. I'd also like to apologize for recreating the item, which had been deleted previously – I now have a (somewhat) better understanding of the process. As for the reason for undeletion, I believe Hagler satisfies criteria 2 and 3 of Wikidata's notability guideline. There are multiple serious references that describe Hagler, and not only in passing: [1], [2], etc. And it would fulfill a structural need, in order to add Hagler in the "board member" field to Q208489. Thanks for your assistance! IT.AT.Macaroni (talk) 14:09, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for getting in touch. I deleted this item as a recreation, so you need to contact the original deleting admin in the first instance. Daryl Hagler (Q126478666) was deleted by @Fralambert. See also Wikidata:Guide to requests for undeletion Bovlb (talk) 16:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

 Done Daryl Hagler (Q126478666) probably count as structural need. --Fralambert (talk) 00:50, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Other items undeleted and merged. Bovlb (talk) 03:26, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

please stop inserting data without source

Your reverts contain data, where no wikipedia erticle f. e. exists anymore. Please do not insert this data again. Please dont revert my deletions of conent in the description without sources. Regsards, Conny (talk) 20:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

If there is any information that needs to be excluded, you should raise that at the RFD. Bovlb (talk) 20:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

You blocked me before discussing here. That should have consequences for you. Informaiton without source should be removed. We dont need another process like QTN. Conny (talk) 20:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

If you are unhappy with my administrative actions, take it to WD:AN. Please remember to point out that you were warned first, but chose to ignore it. Bovlb (talk) 21:01, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

sources

Where are the sources for your entry? [3]

• deutsche Schriftstellerin, Regisseurin und Verlegerin (source?)
• Geschlecht weiblich (source?)
• Schriftsteller (source?)
• Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universität Bonn (source?)

Please don't joust click on buttons - do the work... Conny (talk) 20:50, 23 January 2025 (UTC).

Discuss it in the RFD thread. Bovlb (talk) 20:58, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for undeletion

Hi! I was tagged because Romain Pison's article (Q125421187 ) was deleted due to it being a recreation of this Q119811435.

However, I can't get hold of the admin who deleted the original article: User talk:Renamed user f26394dcb19bd7bdad78f0d752896653 - I saw that this is Esteban16? Which unfotunately, I couldn't find them Wikidata anymore so I can't request for the article to be restored.

I did open a topic on the page. Will that be enough? Please advice. Thank you! Nabiresearcher (talk) 08:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

OK. I'm not sure what going on with Esteban16, but I have reviewed both items and decided to undelete and merge. Bovlb (talk) 16:37, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Atsme

Though I'm okay with a partial block now that my additional concerns of personal attacks and admin shipping don't seem to be recurring, I do recommend that they be indefinitely (rather than temporarily) partially blocked from the item as they have not reassured us they will stop the edit warring once the block expires. They have a problematic conflict of interest here and their combative attitude is still concerning. Jasper Deng (talk) 10:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Your points are well made. I am always cautious about uneven treatment of edit warriors, as it usually requires taking a position on the underlying content issues. I agree that there is clearly a problematic conflict of interest here. I was planning to allow some rope, to make it clear whether there would be ongoing disruption, but you may well be right that things are already clear here. Wikidata never really benefits from editors who are only interested in a single article, and for others it would not be a great hardship to be excluded from a single article. Please go ahead and act as you see fit. Bovlb (talk) 14:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

This clip from today's Board of Trustees meeting may shed some light: https://www.youtube.com/live/heHYxwf6oeg?t=2721s Bovlb (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Also, this user has some interesting history on ENWP, e.g. [4], [5], [6]. We don't sanction users for behaviour on other projects, of course, but this may give us some guidance in how best to respond here. Bovlb (talk) 16:52, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Undelete item request

Hello, I recently created the Wikidata item Q131937251, unaware that a similar item had been deleted previously. I sincerely apologize for any oversight on my part. I would like to request a review of this item for potential restoration. If the previous deletion was due to issues that can be resolved, I am more than willing to make the necessary improvements to ensure compliance with Wikidata’s guidelines. Please let me know if any adjustments or additional references are needed. Thank you for your time and consideration. I appreciate your guidance on how best to proceed. 102.85.251.99 20:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for following up. The previous items were deleted by @Lymantria and @BrokenSegue. You should approach them first. See Wikidata:Guide to requests for undeletion. Bovlb (talk) 20:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Let me say beforehand that I am missing any independent and reliable sources on this countryman of mine. --Lymantria (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Any hope to have it restored? @Lymantria @BrokenSegue 102.85.33.62 20:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Please, indicate such sources. --Lymantria (talk) 21:12, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Kindly check here Global Search Awards & here European Search Awards

I'm new here, hope these can be of help. 102.85.33.62 21:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey, I didn't get a response on the sources I shared @Lymantria 102.85.100.127 06:31, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

You can find the item including merged with previous ones at Q111367071. --Lymantria (talk) 06:37, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. 102.85.100.127 06:47, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Q12630

Is it time for an unblock? Trade (talk) 23:55, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Done. I would have made it time limited, but the software doesn't let me do that. Bovlb (talk) 00:24, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

OnixWikiEditor

Could you look at this user's items when you have time? Judging from the user page it doesnt sound like his first account nor the first time he created these items

I know you had a tool to check previously deleted items but i forgot the link Trade (talk) 23:51, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

For the tool, see User:Bovlb/wd-deleted

None of this user's created items appear to be recreations.

I note that they have a paid editing declaration. Bovlb (talk) 01:03, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Letterboxd studio ID (P13273)

I accidently created a property while forgetting to notice that i was one of the people who voted on it. Does that mean that it have to be deleted now?  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Trade (talk • contribs).

It looks to me like, by one vote, this does not violate Wikidata:Property_creation#Property_creation_criteria, so you should be good.Bovlb (talk) 00:52, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Q131897575

I am surprised that this article is removed, as it is a real book and well know in the founders/SaaS industries Stefanlempire (talk) 11:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Q131897575

We've already determined that the author (Q115127123, Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2023/01/19#Q115127123) is not notable and I don't see significant additional notability for this book. If it is well known, can you find any significant reviews or other coverage?

@Estopedist1, @Gymnicus: Do you see any reason to revisit this? Bovlb (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

I first had to look into what the data objects were about, it was quite some time ago. But to be honest, I don't see any change, so nothing that would justify restoring it. --Gymnicus (talk) 10:24, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Re: Other accounts

Bovlb, please don't revert my edits, as it was a hassle to edit them and otherwise it doesn't make sense to merge items. Diadeco (talk) 06:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

No statements

Hey Bovlb,

thanks for reaching out. Yesterday I joined WikiData. I tried to add statements, but it seems not available to me (yet). Hence it is why you saw that it was empty. Do you know what causes this? Contributornl (talk) 07:12, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

You should be able to add statements. When you look at an item, do you see a link that looks like "+ add statement"? Bovlb (talk) 17:30, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Hey Bovlb, I see that my 3 pages were removed. I did not get an update what the reason for this was. Can you clarify this for me? Contributornl (talk) 13:12, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi! It looks like you're talking about Q132560302, Q132560282, Q132533675, all of which were deleted by @Multichill as non-notable. You should contact him in the first instance, bringing any additional evidence. For more guidance, see Wikidata:Guide to requests for undeletion. Bovlb (talk) 17:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Hey @Bovlb. I am experiencing problems with this moderation you mentioned (the conversation). I am getting little to no reply about his deciscion and it feels like he is not open to clarify or answer questions. What can I do in this situation? I am hoping for some tips what I can do about this. Contributornl (talk) 13:01, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I'm sorry you're having such a frustrating time here.

I took a quick look at your items and I have to agree that they have only social media and self-published identifiers/sources. Do you have any independent sources on these items, like newspaper or magazine articles? That would help a lot, I think. If you've exhausted your appeal with the deleting admin, the next step is a final appeal on WD:AN, but I strongly recommend that you bring the best possible sources. For example, in the conversation you linked to you mention the existence of newspaper coverage, but I didn't see an actual link.

Good luck!

P.S. I fixed a typo in my comment above where I had a duplicated item number. Bovlb (talk) 14:59, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

wd-deleted broken?

[7] result in 500 Internal Server Error. GZWDer (talk) 11:28, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Seems to be working now. There was some scheduled downtime for all tools this morning. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T385885 Bovlb (talk) 15:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Wait. I'm misreading that. The downtime will be next Monday. I'm not sure why it was down. Was there any more to the error message? Is it working for you now? Sorry to ask the obvuious, but did you double-check that you're logged in? Bovlb (talk) 16:37, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

I got this error message yesterday and also just now (not for the first time btw), stating: "Internal Server Error // The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application." Just in case you are still interested in the exact message. After refreshing two times, it worked again. Also wanted to say this tool is really helpful, thank you for developing and maintaining it! --Dorades (talk) 10:46, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

I also experience the server failing from time to time. I think the WMF tools server gets overloaded sometimes. If that's what's happening here, then there's not much I can do about it. Bovlb (talk) 16:47, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Q131578539

Hi Bovlb,

I personally do hate SEO, but Third Door Media is still linked from Semrush (Q48818116) and has been one of the larger SEO platforms in the US (https://auris-finance.fr/en/semrush-takes-over-third-door-media/).

Therefore please restore it.-- Antifaschistische Frontschule (talk) 14:06, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

While I am sympathetic to the argument, this was deleted as a recreation of Q115786223, so @BRPever should be your first stop. Bovlb (talk) 16:51, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

CU

Hi, Bovlb, I notice that you often block users for abusing multiple accounts without filing CU-requests. I can imagine that in some cases it is worth filing such a request, like perhaps this one. It is of course not useful if the accounts but one are stale. Kind regards, Lymantria (talk) 09:40, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

To be quite honest, I find the CU process too slow and uncertain to be useful when I already have enough behavioural evidence to act. I would certainly seek CU help in the event of an appeal. I sometimes make CU reports just for the record if I know there is already a report for the LTA. What benefit do you anticipate from filing additional requests? Are you suggesting that I should hold off on acting on behavioural evidence until a CU investigation is completed? Bovlb (talk) 19:38, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

I understand the slowness argument you are using, and behavioural evidence can certainly be enough to block users. It is in no way my intention to ask you to hold off on acting. My intention to be quicker in response to CU requests than we were used to (no offense to anybody). You are asking for benefits. There can for instance be benefit to let a CU be done when you find a (relatively) new group of socks, to get by CU a bigger picture of a group of socks and sleepers. And of course it is a good case to file a CU request when you have behavioural evidence, but not convincing enough to act. Of course, it is up to you. --Lymantria (talk) 20:20, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

One CU issue that has been bothering me lately: I am continually seeing new users adding large numbers of items with DDB person (GND) ID (P13049) that are recreations of items previously mass-deleted. Are these all the same person coming back again and again? Are many people choosing to complete our catalogue of that property? Should we be blocking? Should we be mass-deleting? The items seem at least as notable as most of what is created. Bovlb (talk) 23:05, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

I think you are referring to a well known globally banned user of whom many socks have been detected? --Lymantria (talk) 17:42, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Yes. I'm working on a project to detect recreations of previously-deleted items, but these new accounts pop up and create thousands of items, and it's swamping my tool. Bovlb (talk) 21:36, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Ah, I understand, that is unfortunate. --Lymantria (talk) 11:17, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

User:Bovlb/recreated items is the report I'm prototyping. I just rewrote it to cap the output at 10 per creator, but I still have to process all the items. Bovlb (talk) 16:32, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

Nice report. --Lymantria (talk) 10:39, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Request for Reconsideration of Wikidata Entry (Q129173692)

Request for Reconsideration of Wikidata Entry (Q129173692) Zeinollah.amini (talk) 01:45, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

See User_talk:Zeinollah.amini.

-10 Internet Points for duplicating a thread in multiple places. Bovlb (talk) 01:50, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Please don't do this. I sent it to several places just to make sure that my message would reach the Wikidata team. Each of them would probably get a response. Please don't do this and consider this as my extra effort to get my message to the Wikidata team. Zeinollah.amini (talk) 10:05, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I didn't communicate clearly. That was intended to be a joke. There's no such thing as Internet Points. Bovlb (talk) 16:27, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Gulf of Mexico (Q12630)

I think its safe to unlock now Trade (talk) 00:00, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Done. I thought I already did that weeks ago, but there's no record of it. Thanks for the reminder. Bovlb (talk) 15:26, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

RE Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2025/03/25#Q133498953

I just tried it again, using the search string "Koupel-ID" without modifying any of the default settings. I still get: "Sorry. No results." Thought you may be interested in this matter. Best regards, Dorades (talk) 10:51, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Now I understand. I was searching for "Q133498953", which at the time yielded Q127501483 as the first result. It does look like searching for "Koupel-ID" produces no results, but "Koupel ID" produces both items, plus a third related item Q127500847. I think this is an inconsistency in the way punctuation is handled between the indexing side and the query side. I'll put it on my list to look at. Thanks for reporting. Bovlb (talk) 16:46, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Interesting, didn't know that it's possible (or: useful) to search for the item number. Is this functionality accessible only for admins? I get only Q133498953 as result when searching "Q133498953". --Dorades (talk) 19:41, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it only works properly for non-deleted items. In theory it should be possible to make it work for deleted items, but that hasn't been a priority.

Did you know about the user script? See User:Bovlb/wd-deleted Bovlb (talk) 20:10, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Ah, makes sense, thank you!

Didn't know about the user script, I will try it out. --Dorades (talk) 20:44, 25 March 2025 (UTC)