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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Bovlb/Archive 1 on 2019-03-11.

ISinhala (talkcontribs)

I made this page to test wikidata platform and learn, and it's a fake name and fake details. Can you take it down?

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Are you saying that you are behind the three IP addresses that created and filled in this item between 2018-12-27 and 2019-02-01, before your attempt to repurpose it in 2019-10-05?

ISinhala (talkcontribs)

Yes.

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

It is done.

ISinhala (talkcontribs)

Q58336311 This too Please

Bovlb (talkcontribs)
ISinhala (talkcontribs)

I created it as well. Can you delete it?

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ISinhala (talkcontribs)

I'm the author, Can you take it down?

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Jean-Lucien Sanchez (talkcontribs)

G7 - Deletion at the request of the author

I would like to request the deletion of this page that I created and of which I am the only contributor. It provides no relevant information to the Wikipedia community and remains a simple online CV that is very easy to find elsewhere on the net (https://cv.archives-ouvertes.fr/jean-lucien-sanchez, https : //criminocorpus.org/fr/criminocorpus/auteurs/sanchez/). I made the same delete request to Wikipedia (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Demande_de_suppression_imm%C3%A9diate#Jean-Lucien_Sanchez). Thank you.

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Si je le supprime maintenant, il sera créé encore une fois parce que l'article en Français. S'il est supprimé par les administrateurs français, je le supprimerai ici. Santé!

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ISinhala (talkcontribs)

Regarding this Page : Q58336311


I need help to remove some items that are not true. My country of citizenship isn't USA And if you can delete the false data, That'd be helpful

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Thanks for responding. I have restored your version.

I apologize for erring on the side of disbelieving you. I come across a lot of cases where new users delete many assertions, and it usually turns out that they're doing something wrong.

ISinhala (talkcontribs)

Thank You for the support.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

RMaung (WMF) 17:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

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Bovlb (talkcontribs)

( Adding message placed on user page. )

Many thanks for your message, but HOW TO MERGE BOTH WIKIDATA IN THE ACTUAL 22970792??

I have no idea. Please HELP! --Szczebrzeszynski (talk) 15:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

@Szczebrzeszynski: Sorry I didn't notice your response earlier, but you inadvertently placed it on my user page instead of here on user talk, so I didn't get any notification. You can merge following the instructions in Help:Merge. If you look, you'll see that I linked to that page in my original message to you.

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Westmanurbe (talkcontribs)

Hi Bovlb I'm Westmanurbe. First of all, thanks for your compliments, and for your welcome! The problem is that in some Wikis (like the one in Italian) there are templates which, as far as I understand, automatically repeat some claims in the Wiki data, regardless of whether they are reported with the deprecated rank. Cheers --~~~~

Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the response. That's interesting and a little surprising. Project templates should never normally use deprecated claims. Can you give any more details? Thanks!

Westmanurbe (talkcontribs)

I removed a deceased site that was deprecated but still appeared to me in Italian Wikipedia. Unfortunately I don't remember which one, if not we could restore the claim and see better. Otherwise, the next time I find a similar site, I'll try to mark it as deprecated (by the way, how can I do it?) and I let you know. Cheers

Westmanurbe (talkcontribs)

As for instance, I've just marked the official site in Jenaveve Jolie (Q540565) as deprecated, but the claim still appears still appears in the related articles on the Italian Wiki (infobox and "Collegamenti esterni" section) and on the Spanish one (Infobox). I don't know if there is any bug...

Bovlb (talkcontribs)
Westmanurbe (talkcontribs)
Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Yes, the interface for changing rank is somewhat obscure, essentially impossible to find without the documentation.

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Tagishsimon (talkcontribs)
Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Hi! There is a little confusion here. Japanese idol (Q226008) is defined as a profession. In en:Japanese_idol, it's described as "a young starlet manufactured and marketed for image, attractiveness, and personality in Japanese pop culture". Hence this is a type of person, and not a type of group. When I first saw

, I initially took this to be a human where a profession had been incorrectly entered as P31. On investigating further, I found that Q51253856 is a group, so cannot be a type of person/profession. Cheers!

Tagishsimon (talkcontribs)

Band works for me :) Thanks.


JI is a profession: noted! All good.

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Moebeus (talkcontribs)
Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Thanks. Blocked for a year. I usually keep IP blocks short, but this user just seems to run and run.

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Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

In , you pointed out that this is "not wholly contained within United Kingdom. Use territory overlaps (P3179)", then I added territory overlaps (P3179)  United Kingdom (Q145) instead.

But today I've got an e-mail, the sender of the e-mail asked me that this usage is indeed improper, as it trigged a warning that "Entities using the territory overlaps (P3179) property should be instances of geographic region (Q82794) or fictional location (Q3895768) (or of a subclass of them), but international E-road network (Q106123) currently isn't."

Now, to avoid unnecessary edit wars:

  1. Should you cancel your previous undo reason, and let me feel free to re-add country (P17)  United Kingdom (Q145)? Or
  2. Should the type constraint (Q21503250) of territory overlaps (P3179) be cancelled, so that this warning will no longer rendered? Or
  3. Do you have a proper subitem of geographic region (Q82794) or fictional location (Q3895768) that is suitable for international E-road network (Q106123)?
60.26.9.154 (talkcontribs)
Bovlb (talkcontribs)

Hi! Sorry to take so long to respond. I'm having a hectic week in real life.

As I understand it, country (P17) should only be used in cases where that country is the sovereign country for the item. In the case of a road that travels through multiple countries, those countries may be sovereign for parts of the road, but none of them are for the road as a whole. Similarly with located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), an international road is not located in either of the countries it spans.

This leaves us with territory overlaps (P3179) and partially coincident with (P1382). There seems to be a little confusion as to when each of these should be used. The latter actually gives a road as an example usage, but specifically to indicate that part of one road is coincident with (part of) another road. I therefore conclude that P3179 is the better choice here.

Regarding the specific problem you raise: roads and road systems are generally subcollections of geographic entity (Q27096213), but not geographic region (Q82794). There's nothing in the property proposal for P3179 that suggests it be restricted to regions, but such a constraint was added, and the use of "territory" in the name also suggests that. I note that P3179 has gained some shouty Wikidata usage instructions (P2559) in the last week.

So, if we are tightening the sense of P3179 so that it cannot be used on roads and road networks, then there doesn't seem to be a satisfactory property to use to associate it with the countries that contain parts of it, which seems a shame.

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