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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:46, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:ChristianKl/Archive 1 on 2016-08-31.

Structured Data - computer-aided tagging designs

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Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talkcontribs)

Can you peak at Q61054612 and see if you can delete the entry in also_known_as with "Selma Louise Freudenberg (1921-2008)". I can't delete it, it seems you can't delete entries larger than the space given. ~~~~

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

I could delete it.

Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talkcontribs)

Very weird, thanks! I tried in two browsers, I tried logged in and logged out.

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Structured Data - computer-aided tagging

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The development team is starting work on one of the last planned features for SDC v1.0, a lightweight tool to suggest depicts tags for images. I've published a project page for it, please have a look. I plan to share this page with everyone on Commons much more broadly in the coming days. The tool has been carefully designed to try to not increase any workload on Commons volunteers; for starters, it will be opt-in for auto-confirmed users only and will not generate any sort of backlog here on Commons. Additionally, the tool is highly privacy-minded for the contributors and publicly-minded for the third party being used, in this case Google. The implementation and usage notes contain more information about these and other potential concerns as a starting place. It's really important that the tool is implemented properly from the start, so feedback is welcome. Questions, comments, concerns are welcome on the talk page and I will get answers as quickly as possible as things come up. On the talk page you can also sign up to make sure you're a part of the feedback for designs and prototype testing. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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Partynia (talkcontribs)

Hallo ChristianKi, ich nehme an, dass ich auf deutsch schreiben kann. Ich habe als Newbie in meiner Funktion als Übersetzungsadministrator zwei Fragen und hoffe, dass Du mir da helfen kannst. Ich habe auf der Seite Wikidata:Lexicographical data/Documentation das nachfolgende eingefügte Template übersetzt.

One or several lexemes for nouns?
difference in1 lexeme2+ lexemes
senseadd several sensesadd applicable sense to lexemelink other(s) with homograph lexemeduplicate forms on each
etym.add etym. to each senseadd etym. to lexeme baselink other(s) with homograph lexemeduplicate forms on each
genderadd gender to each senseadd gender to lexeme baselink other(s) with homograph lexemeduplicate forms on each
common/properadd several sensesuse lexical category "noun"add applicable sense to lexemelink other(s) with homograph lexemeduplicate forms on each
caps/lowercaseadd several formsqualify forms to applicable sensesadd applicable sense to lexemelink other(s) with homograph lexemeadd only applicable forms
singular/pluraladd several formsqualify forms to applicable sensesadd applicable senseif possible link other(s) with homograph lexemeadd only applicable forms
pronunciationadd the same form twicequalify forms to applicable senses, add prononciationadd applicable senseif possible link other(s) with homograph lexemeadd form and applicable pronunciation
forms/spellingadd several forms or alternate formsqualify forms to applicable sensesadd applicable senseif possible link other(s) with homograph lexemeadd only applicable forms

For a given language and criterion (first column), just one of the two might apply

Übersetzte Version: Template:Single or multiple lexeme/de

Wie kann ich dieses Template in der Hauptseite erscheinen lassen?

Meine zweite Frage bezieht sich auf das Babel zum Übersetzungsadministrator. Das ist schlampig übersetzt. Wo kann man das ändern?

Danke für Deine Unterstützung. Grüße Partynia

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TomT0m (talkcontribs)

It seems that in 2007 you merged Q17519152 … it’s unfortunate because you merged this with an item that is supposed to represent groups of physical objects. So now a dictionnary or a computer program are supposed to be groups of physical objects …

It’s a part of the mess I want to clean up on this topic

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

No "group of objects" was the item with whom I merged it and it had the description "multiple objects of any nature considered as a set". It's any nature and not just physical objects. You added the information that it's supposed to be a physical object in 2018 a year after the merge and created the mess. I switched it again from "concrete object" to "object".

TomT0m (talkcontribs)

Mmm I don’t remember why I did this but there was probably a reason. Maybe the simple interwiki who lists physical groups ?

The history of multiple merges is a little bit scary to me and makes hard to fully follow what happened over time.

But sorry, it seem to be my mistake.

Anyway, I don’t really like the habit of subclassifying « group » for anything that could be vaguely seen as a collection, it’s too abstract. A sofware is supposed to be a series hence a group (of executed instruction I guess) … a mathematical class/set is probably supposed to be a group either …

My feeling is that using this item in statements is more a source of confusion than order.

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

I don't have a strong opinion of where it should be used exactly. At the point where I made the merge we had two items with the same meaning and thus it made sense to merge them.Software currently doesn't subclass series and I don't they a strong reason why it should.

TomT0m (talkcontribs)

You’re right, it’s not software who subclasses it, it’s « computer program » (see the screenshot I did starting the work)

The link between the two is that a computer program may be regarder as a class of all the executions (computer process) that are generated by it. An execution of a program is a sequence of instruction, someone subclassed « routine » with it, which is a subclass of « series » which is a subclass of « group ».

(I made the mistake of taking « software » as a synonym of « computer program » which is wrong because the software of a computer is defined as « all of the intangible components of a computer », so datas are software as well)

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

I don't have strong opinions on the ontology of software at the moment. Feel free to work on bringing order into it.

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Nomen ad hoc (talkcontribs)

Re Christian,

if a reference is not mandatory in the case of deceased persons' date of birth, could you please explain why Q65972018#P569 states: "Statements for date of birth should have at least one reference"?

ChristianKl (talkcontribs)

There are two issuers here:

1) The word should and mandatory are not the same.

2) There are plenty of bad references out there that would fulfill the constraint because they are a reference but they are not serious references in the sense the Living Person policy asks for. Especially for estimated IQ there's a lot of rubbish on the internet that can be referenced and that fulfills the constraint.

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Structured Data - testing other statements

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You can now test using other statements for structured data on the file page on Test-Commons. Some datatypes are not yet available, such a coordinates, but further support will be extended soon. You can find more information about testing on the SDC talk page. The team looks forward to your feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

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Structured Data on Commons - IRC office hours this week, 18 July

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The Structured Data team is hosting an IRC office hour this week on Thursday, 18 July, from 17:00-18:00 UTC. Joining information as well as date and time conversion is available on Meta. Potential topics for discussion are the testing of "other statements", properties that may need to be created for Commons on Wikidata soon, plans for the rest of SDC development, or whatever you might want to discuss. The development team looks forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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