Lymantria

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Best regards! Wiki13 _talk 16:38, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Q125023701

Hi, I think my site was deleted by accident, I am a priest and you can find information about me for example.

https://www.odnowapruszkow.pl/

but I do not want it to be displayed on the wikidata page, thank you for your understanding and please restore my page Gustawek (talk) 15:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

I deleted nothing, but I nominated your item for deletion, as it does not clearly indicate notability. I left you a semi-automated note on your talk page to indicate that your item needs sources. You being a priest but not disclosing that on the item, does not change much about the notability. --Lymantria (talk) 18:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Q119153950

Dear Lymantria, I have noticed that the page about my Open Science Newsletter FAIR Data Digest (Q119153950) was deleted as well as all entities about specific editions of the newsletter that were linked to it. I was not aware of the notability criteria at Wikidata, I have seen Wikidata as an open space for crowd-based metadata. Considering the nature of the newsletter, Wikidata seemed to be the perfect space to share metadata about the newsletter in a FAIR (Findable, Accessible, Interoperable, Reusable) and sustainable manner.

There are two points that I would like to make, first about the notability of blogs in general and secondly about the data and deletion process itself.

Notability

I think that the deleted pages are notable according to the second notability criteria of Wikidata.org:

> "It refers to an instance of a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity that can be described using serious and publicly available references."

The item about the newsletter as well as the items about the editions of the newsletter are clearly identifiable conceptual entities. Additionally it can be described by serious and publicly available references, i.e. the newsletter -- as a form of science blogging -- is among others available via the Rogue Scholar platform (https://rogue-scholar.org/) via which editions of the newsletter retrieve a DOI identifier. Thus also findable via Crossref and e.g. retrievable via my ORCID page. Furthermore editions of the newsletter are publicly available and also archived on the Archive-It web archive (all things that were expressed with properties on the Wikidata entities of the newsletter editions). I also would like to point out, that when writing editions of the newsletter, I always mention content-related Wikidata items in the newsletter and occassionally I also improved Wikidata by adding missing entities or enrich existing entities.

Considering the explanation above, I cannot follow the reasoning why the entities in question (the newsletter and editions about it) should be deleted but not any other "blog" or "blog post" entity on Wikidata!

Deletion process

By coincidence I noticed the deletion today. I cannot find anything about the deletion in my notifications or on the deletion request page. I have spent a considerable amount of time of curating all the data and at least I would like to have been notified about a possiblity of deletion.

On the one hand to make my argument (see above) and on the other hand to move my data elsewhere in case they are not want on Wikidata. However, now after the fact I cannot retrieve the data and hence the efforts of manual curation seem worthless as I have to start over from scratch on another platform. SvenLieber (talk) 16:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi SvenLieber, It is very unfortunate that your items were deleted after a deletion request you were not aware of. The deletion request can be found at Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2024/03/26#Bulk deletion request regarding Kalicube. You were pinged March 2nd as you can see there. With that in mind I considered you notified. Blogs or even email newsletters can be notable, the most important point of the second criterion you cite is that it is to be described by serious sources, by which is meant that these sources are independent. I am not sure if The Rogue Scholar (Q122915746) qualifies. You might try Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard to see what other admins think. For now, I stay with my decision. --Lymantria (talk) 19:47, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @Lymantria for pointing me to the deletion request. I again remember to get this notification. However, because of the title "Bulk deletion request regarding Kalicube" I did not pay attention to it as I don't know what Kalicube was. I assumed someone mentioned me by accident somewhere on a talk page or wanted some feedback.

If "serious source" is indeed defined as independent I myself would also question The Rogue Scholar, because initially I created an account there to include my newsletter. Yet the definition of notability does not literally include the word independent (I checked the Wikidata notability policy in all languages that I know). Thus I will follow your suggestion and try the Adminstrator's noticeboard. I need to prepare my case so I won't do it immediately. I hope there is no deadline that I have to respect. SvenLieber (talk) 12:16, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

There is no deadline. But perhaps it is worth knowing that I am out of office from April 12th/13th until May 10/11th. --Lymantria (talk) 13:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)