Jean-Frédéric

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Regards, --Fabrice Ferrer (talk) 00:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

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Property:Province

I deleted your translation, as I decided to generalize Province into an administrative subdivision. Techman224^Talk 19:41, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure. I was merely looping on the Properties and translating stuff ; but thanks for notifying me :). Jean-Frédéric (talk) 19:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Update French translation

Please translate into French this "'close': 'Close'" phrase in MediaWiki:Gadget-RequestDeletion.js. --Vivaelcelta (talk) 09:23, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Jean-Frédéric (talk) 09:55, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Ministère de la culture

Bonjour, j'ai un peu modifié ton édit sur le ministère de la culture, parce que l'article anglais parle en fait du ministre, pas du ministère. Et j'ai voulu en profiter pour ajouter le numéro VIAF du ministère, mais la notice BNF est incorrecte. Il faudrait mettre indiquée dans le "regroupé par" de [1], mais le lien bugge, tu saurais pas ce qui va pas ? --Zolo (talk) 21:44, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Property talk:P268#parameter_value_normalization

Hi! Please see Property talk:P268#parameter_value_normalization. Can you help please? לערי ריינהארט (talk) 13:17, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036)

Hi Jean-Frédéric! I found https://www.wikidata.org/?diff=110432562&oldid=110432481#top and modified it. Is it OK now? Are you using skype? Regards gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 09:35, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Location/France

Good use more entries. Multichill (talk) 11:06, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

We talked about Joconde work ID (P347) last night. Looks like some existing items need to be tagged and that's only the list for the Louvre.

Also Napoleon Crossing the Alps (Q59201) is a nice one to untangle. That's one item about 5 different paintings! Multichill (talk) 17:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Cycle d'Ender

Oui, c'est exactement ça Ender's Game hexalogy (Q2642928) c'est une œuvre (enfin un ensemble d'œuvres) mais pas un univers. Son instance of (P31) « hexalogie » est un dérivé de « œuvre », pas d'univers de fiction, donc c'est P:1441 et pas P:1080 . Mais pour les persos qui n'apparaissent pas dans tous les ouvrages, il vaut mieux préciser dans lesquels (de la même façon, on peut signaler dans quels épisodes d'une série télé un élément apparaît, au lieu de juste mettre "dans la série Machin", mais mieux vaut ça que rien du tout). --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 16:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Tate

Hi Jean-Frédéric, before importing more Tate (Q430682) paintings, a bit of clean up is needed. For some paintings the collection (P195) is set to Tate Britain (Q195436), Tate Modern (Q193375) or one of the other Tates. See for example this list. This needs to be fixed, otherwise you end up with a bunch of duplicates. What I did: Copy collection to location, update collection to Tate, update collection qualifier of the inventory number to Tate. Tate Modern is done, haven't checked the others yet. Multichill (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Leading zero?

Hello Jean-Frédéric, Can you explain why this edit was made? Did I overlook cases where the Tate-identifeir had an initial 0? Lymantria (talk) 07:50, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Hello Lymantria,

Thanks for your message − and apologies I did not make use of the edit summary to explain why I was doing this :)

I encountered Edwin Austin Abbey (Q259538) which has an ID of 0. That special case does not warrant my edit though − I don’t believe there are any identifiers with leading zeroes ; with my edit 0123 would be valid although it should not. I reverted myself on that one.

My regex-fu can be a bit rusty, but I do not see any better than something like /[0|[1-9]\d*]/ ? Looks convoluted...

Thanks for the catch :) Jean-Fred (talk) 14:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that would be convoluted. Luckily the constraint template accepts exceptions. :) Lymantria (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Thankyou!

Hello Jean-Frédéric you have spent alot of time on here helping so i thank you!

About Jules (Q56173658)

I write here because I have deleted the item: yes is the same (almost) I moved the sitelink, but don't merged the item because my item was wrong, so I deleted item and discussion page. Thanks --ValterVB (talk) 18:22, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for following-up on this :) Jean-Fred (talk) 15:42, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Les bases de données de jeux vidéo

Salut Jean-Fred ! Comme je sais que tu es un spécialiste sur les jeux vidéos ici, je me suis demandé si tu pouvais me renseigner sur toutes les propriétés concernant les bases de données des jeux vidéos, et plus généralement sur toutes les propriétés qu'un jeu vidéo peut avoir.
Par ailleurs, sais-tu si on peut ajouter des notes de test comme propriété ?
En te souhaitant une très bonne année ! YotaMoteuchi (talk) 22:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Salut @YotaMoteuchi: et bonne année à toi aussi :)

On maintient une liste de ces propriétés sur Wikidata:WikiProject Video games/Properties, et une sous-page en particulier pour les identifiants externes Wikidata:WikiProject Video games/Properties/identifiers.

Pour les notes de test : oui, il y a review score (P444) pour ça − les anglophones ont un guide sur Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Wikidata#Reviews. C’est pas super-répandu pour le moment − seulement 180 items l’utilisent, avec 637 notes au total

En espérant avoir répondu :) Jean-Fred (talk) 08:38, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Salut Jean-Fred ! Les exemples ne fonctionnent pas pour moi : "La requête est mal formulée: Encountered "<EOF>" at line 4, column 71" pour la première requête par exemple.

Ceci dit, je m'aperçois que la note de la critique doit être "associée" (je ne sais pas si c'est le terme) à une propriété d'un identifiant d'une base de données. Si maintenant, la note provient d'un magazine papier, est-ce possible ? Et si oui, comment ?

Et sinon, merci pour toutes ces propriétés, je pense qu'elles me seront très utiles à l'occasion ! YotaMoteuchi (talk) 09:32, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah bah tiens, ça m’apprendra à pas vérifier mes liens ^_^'. Ça devrait marcher maintenant.

Ça semble encore moins répandu (pour l’instant les anglophones mettent les notes surtout pour les aggrégateurs, en particulier Metacritic), mais ça se fait aussi − example sur Q17048660#P444.

Jean-Fred (talk) 09:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup ! Je garde précieusement cette discussion !!! Il y a tant de choses à faire... YotaMoteuchi (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Newer PCGamingWiki dataset on Mix'n'match

I'm not sure how much you use the PCGW dataset on Mix'n'Match, but I figured I should let you know I've uploaded a better version with corrected URLs (the only exception is game titles with slashes in them are still broken, unfortunately, but I think that's a mix'n'match problem): https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/2196

Unfortunately I didn't think about changing all the descriptions for items to "video game" so that item creation wouldn't result in an item with a description of "n/a", but I guess it's too late to fix that now.

Best, Nicereddy (talk)

Thanks for letting me know! I marked the old catalogue as “Inactive” (one needs Catalog Editor rights on Mix’n’match to do it). Regarding the description: too bad, but that can be fixed at the next update ;-).

Funny that the auto-match again did not do a good job − it should for example have matched this to Agricultural Simulator 2012 (Q11849886)… I’ll poke Magnus about it :)

Jean-Fred (talk) 21:35, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Actually the auto-match acted really bizarrely. It ended up with about 1500 matches, but 700 or so of them weren't instances of video games, so I had to spend a while going through and removing the bad matches.

Did the auto-match work on the original import? I never saw it if it did. Nicereddy (talk)

Ah I see. So, there were no auto-matches at all on the original import, which I feel it definitely should have − there were plenty of exact matches to make. It’s 'good' that it worked this time but very strange it only did crappy matches. Over 40 catalogues imported and I only had good experience with the auto-match. The only exception was cpcrulez but I thought the bad matches were because I had not specified a default type (which you did).

Strange strange strange :)

Jean-Fred (talk) 09:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Reports/Platform/Disk Operating System vs. Reports/Platform/DOS

Aren't these platforms pretty much the same? Does it make any sense to have two of these lists? Trade (talk) 23:05, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

They are indeed ; I had not noticed the latter, as I was creating missing ones from Wikidata:WikiProject Video games/Statistics/Platform (which makes a link based on the English label − not very robust method but should do for now). One can be redirected to the other I’d say :)

By the way, thanks for creating many of these per-platform lists!

Jean-Fred (talk) 08:37, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Redirections

Salut,

J'ai remarqué que les anglais mettaient les redirections sur les items jeux vidéo - exemple : Q3285262

Il faut faire pareil en français ?

a+ FR (talk) 19:38, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Salut,

Le système est expliqué sur Help:Sitelinks/fr:

Notez que chaque page Wikimedia/Wikipédia ne peut contenir qu'un lien (sitelink) sur une page d'élément Wikidata. Vous recevrez un message d’erreur si vous tentez d’ajouter un nouveau lien si la page est déjà connectée à une autre page d'élément (même lorsque vous essayez de créer un lien vers une page de redirection pointant vers cette page particulière).

Ça veut dire que Wikidata considère la cible de la redirection, pas la redirection elle-même, et qu’une seule page par wiki peut être liée à Wikidata.

En pratique, si tu essayes de lier fr:Gangstar Rio: City of Saints sur Gangstar Rio: City of Saints (Q3285262), tu te fais bouler avec un “Site link frwiki:Gangstar is already used by item Gangstar (Q3758110)”

Ce qui s’est passé avec l’article anglais, c’est que au moment où l’item Wikidata a été lié à la page en:Gangstar Rio: City of Saints, c’était un vrai article, et c’est entre temps que l’article a été transformé en redirect.

Donc, en gros, c’est pas possible :)

Woilà, j’espère que c’est clair ^_^

Jean-Fred (talk) 22:28, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Ok merci ! Et il faut supprimer les redirects dans ce cas ?

Et la question corollaire : il y a un moyen de faire en sorte que les redirections soient bleuies sur [2] ? FR (talk) 10:09, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

BTVA video games ID

Hello Jean! In these days, You may have noticed that I am replenishing with the help of mix'n'match the VGMdb product ID property. I would like to make same thing (catalog) for BTVA video games ID property. I tried to make it myself with mix'n'match importer, but I don't know how to do it. Therefore, I want to ask if You could import catalog? I will be very grateful and thank you in advance. Kirilloparma (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi!

Sorry for the delay − had a look and then forgot about it ^^. Had another look now and realised this had been done already :D

Jean-Fred (talk) 08:35, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

New PCGamingWiki mix'n'match

Once again I have added a new dataset to mix'n'match, for whatever reason when I try to mark it as inactive it doesn't do anything. Could you work your magic same as last time? :) Old: https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/2196, New: https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/2375

Thanks! Nicereddy (talk) 05:03, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

 Done! Thanks for keeping that dataset updated :) Jean-Fred (talk) 07:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

One more external database

Hi Jean-Frédéric, while adding Killing Time at Lightspeed (Q63436910), I found IFDB, which could be a good identifier to add on your TODO list. (a bit late in the night to do a property proposal, and telling you in case I do forget) --Misc (talk) 23:24, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok so I couldn't sleep, and went ahead on Wikidata:Property_proposal/Interactive_Fiction_Database_ID. --Misc (talk) 00:00, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Had never heard of that website − looks like a good addition − thanks for the proposal :) Jean-Fred (talk) 08:35, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

property stat

Hi Jean-Frédéric,

Nice tool. Thanks for building it.

Here, I tried to add a "higher grouping" by continent. It works for most of it. Somehow the numbers for the US get doubled (two continents, even if only one is shown). Percentages dropped. Maybe the query can use a "DISTINCT" in count. Couldn't figure out why Netherlands appears with Africa and Tunisia without any continent. The text "(used at least 10 times per grouping)" above the columns is that from an earlier version? --- Jura 23:01, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Another thing: at US, I tried to group by state, but that would require a more complex first level grouping (I tried "P131/wdt:P131*/wdt:P5086"). --- Jura 09:36, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

• I found a (ugly) solution for that, but it times out. --- Jura 10:36, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi!

Glad you like it − thanks for using it :)

• Good catch with the double-counting − filed myself phab:T224090, will add a DISTINCT to the query.
• I intended integraality to have a very simple interface (ie, simple parameters) so that folks with little SPARQL-fu could use it ; but by doing so, I kind-of arbitrarily restricted the kind-of grouping possible. I might relax that constraint, by providing an alternative grouping_sparql.

Jean-Fred (talk) 08:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Fixed the double-count by adding a DISTINCT − thanks for the tip :) Jean-Fred (talk) 13:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. It improved the numbers here too. BTW, I'd favor inputing also the variables ?entity and ?grouping , but I understand your general objective. I tried to find a way to do subnational groupings. It worked for US/IN/AU, but it tends to time-out if there is much data involved (IT, FR). Subnationals groups are a bit tricky, as it requires using an additional time "*" which generally leads to time-outs. While I can generally get queries to work, I'm not sure what optimizations to suggest. Maybe the tool could first do a mere count and then try to work out the groups. Specialists at Request_a_query might have more suggestions. --- Jura 14:31, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I filed phab:T224229 to discuss/design the grouping interface. Jean-Fred (talk) 15:00, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

• Somehow grouping_threshold seems to be applied to every cell, even if the row has more than grouping_threshold items. --- Jura 21:52, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Property dashboard

Salut, j'essaye de paramétrer le modèle pour avoir un tableau des églises par département, mais il me semble que ce n'est pas possible en l'état actuel des choses. Tu me confirmes ? Merci par avance. Ayack (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Salut,

Alors, je suis pas sûr de comprendre la question, alors double-réponse :-)

Pour le higher-grouping un peu moche qui affichait Belgique: À la base l’outil considère que les groupes sont des Qids (et les affiche dans {{Q}}), excepté pour le `country` (qui les affiche dans {{Flag}}). J’ai codé vite fait un type `string` et ajouté ça à ton dashboard − mais en fait c’est un peu idiot, l’outil devrait être capable de déterminer quel est le datatype − j’ai saisi phab:T224212 pour ça.

Sinon c’était possible de récupérer le Qid du département plutôt que son numéro.

Seconde interprétation de la question:

Si tu voulais pas la colonne “Ville”, mais directement le département, alors oui c’est un peu compliqué pour le moment − pour les raisons abordées sur phab:T224229. Je pense que tu peux tricher avec le SPARQL comme sur User:Seav/Sandbox, mais c’est pas vraiment idéal. Je suis preneur de suggestions de comment faire :)

Jean-Fred (talk) 14:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Prop dashboard

Very very nice!!! Thank you!

I created a dashboard for some maps I am working on:

User:Jheald/Blaeu

but I am a bit surprised that, although 6 and 12 maps register in the totals line for the depicts (P180) and main subject (P921) columns, there are no counts in the corresponding column entries for the specific volumes (all should be in Vol 3 Germany and Vol 5 England).

Is there something I have missed?

Thanks again, Jheald (talk) 15:41, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Just updated the page. Seemingly, numbers may appear in these columns once they get above a particular threshold. But when there are only 6 or 7 instances in a box, that gets reported as zero. If a column is present, it would be nice to have the actual numbers, with no thresholding. Jheald (talk) 10:05, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Jura1 seems to have fixed the page with this diff -- apparently need to set both grouping_threshold and property_threshold to zero to work around this.

One other thing that would be nice would be to be able to define an initial sort ordering -- here the value of volume (P478), cast to a xsd:integer would be nice. Jheald (talk) 11:57, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Now giving the error <class 'OSError'> [Errno 116] Stale file handle. Jheald (talk) 10:19, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Fairly sure that last one is Toolforge related − tracking at phab:T224651. Not sure what I can do about it at the moment though :-/ Jean-Fred (talk) 11:04, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Steam Greenlight (Q61905393)

Valve Corporation (Q193559) discontinued Steam Greenlight (Q61905393) many months ago and i'm worried that they might soon take the website down. I think we should create an identifier before it happens. Unfortunately, Steam Greenlight (Q61905393) is somewhat complicated and i'm not sure how to go on about creating an identifier for it.

Kind regards, Trade (talk) 21:23, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Tv Tropes identifier

Hey. I've removed all three constraint that you added to this property because I've been putting it on pages for a few days and I have violated all three. Tvtropes often merges or split things in far less (or far more) specific ways than Wikipedia, so neither distinct-values constraint (Q21502410) nor single-value constraint (Q19474404) are usable, and a subject type constraint (Q21503250) in particular would need to be so broad as to be pointless. Tvtropes may be best known for its coverage of fandom writ large, but it has thousands of pages about people, brands, companies etc. No notability requirements mean almost anything that's on wikipedia could theoretically be on Tvtropes. Circeus (talk) 12:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice

Thank you for the advice. I'm new to wikidata and every advice is welcome. --Arosio Stefano (talk) 10:03, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Translation?

Hi there, what is the relationship between Q66251013 and Q66250903? Maybe a translation? Would it be useful then to add a label in English for those of us not able to see all labels? (Labelslister somehow does not do the trick for me.) Thanks! --Chanuga (talk) 09:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

software engine

thanks, yes, I didn't know about that at the time (and I believe it was added after for that item). Arlo Barnes (talk) 08:17, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

@Arlo Barnes: Ok, thanks for the answer :) Jean-Fred (talk) 13:02, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Game Soundtracks and Wikidata

Hey,

Do you happen to know if soundtracks are valid Wikidata items? This collection contains a lot of them https://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/#/catalog/2522. Teiron (talk) 17:01, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey @Teiron:,

Yes, it’s definitely a thing − see this SPARQL query:

SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?soundtrack_release ?soundtrack_releaseLabel ?natureLabel WHERE {
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
  ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q7889.
  ?item wdt:P406 ?soundtrack_release.
  ?soundtrack_release wdt:P31 ?nature
}

Try it!

Although, not too sure what is the correct way of modeling them. MusicBrainz makes the difference between the soundtrack (eg MG5 soundtrack) and the soundtrack albums (eg MGS OST. Movies also seem to be a bit of a mess. I asked the question on the Wikidata Telegram group, let’s see if I can get more information :)

Jean-Fred (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, data modeling, ratings, video games

thank you for doing video games

Thank you.

• Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Thanks_to_the_team_and_community_here
• Wikidata:Project_chat#Modeling_the_ratings_and_reviews_of_critics

I really appreciate you answering my question and I am impressed by the answer and option available for me. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:02, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

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Merci

Merci pour le conseil technique pour obtenir un "statement" en français (en l'occurrence sur la fiche wikidata du wikimedien français chez wiki). Magnon86 (talk) 05:03, 4 October 2019 (UTC)magnon86

New page for catalogues

Hi, I created a new page where I started collecting sites that could be added to Mix'n'match and I plan to expand it with the ones that already have scrapers by category. Feel free to use, expand. Best, --Adam Harangozó (talk) 12:41, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Integraality

Bonjour Jean-Fred,

J'ai découvert ce merveilleux outil sur les captations de la wikidataCon \o/

Je travaille (quasiment seule) à la mise sur wikidata des textes de frwikisource... ce qui n'est pas rien ^^

J'ai quelques difficultés à paramétrer la bête...

D'abord, pourrais-tu mettre un lien vers https://tools.wmflabs.org/integraality/ sur la page du Bot de mise à jour, pour qu'on puisse facilement la trouver, j'ai un peu galéré...

Ensuite, en paramétrant User:Hsarrazin/test4 j'avais d'abord mis un groupement supérieur par Pays, et je me suis retrouvée avec un drapeau Canadien devant l'anglais et le français !!! - voir ici - je n'ai donc rien compris...

Par ailleurs, plutôt que de travailler sur toutes les version, edition or translation (Q3331189), je voudrais les restreindre à celles qui ont un lien sur frwikisource... penses-tu que ce soit possible (et... oui... on a plusieurs langues sur frwikisource, puisqu'on a l'ancien français, le moyen français, l'occitan, le wallon, le français du québec, etc.)

Je voudrais aussi faire apparaître tous les éléments qui n'ont PAS ENCORE de langue... -> je pense que c'est "stats_for_no_group=true" ? et je voudrais aussi que toutes les langues s'affichent, peu importe le nombre d'éléments (>0)

Pour les éditions, d'autre part, on a des éditions avec P123 (les bouquins) et des éditions avec P1433 (les textes groupés dans un recueil, poèmes, nouvelles, etc.) - Est-il possible d'associer 2 propriétés et de calculer l'un OU l'autre (P123/P1433) ? -> du coup, les "sans critères" correspondraient à "ni P123 ni P1433"...

J'aimerais aussi faire un tableau de bord de tous les éléments liés à frwikisource, groupés par P31, mais là je ne sais même pas comment commencer... ni même si ça peut avoir un sens...

Peux-tu m'aider, stp ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 08:03, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour @Hsarrazin: − avec plaisir!

Mettre un lien sur la page du Bot de mise à jour

Bonne idée,  Done (Special:Diff/1041625328)

groupement supérieur par Pays, et je me suis retrouvée avec un drapeau Canadien

Ah, oui, c’est logique: avec un higher-grouping=wdt:P17/wdt:P298, on va chercher sur l’élément English (Q1860) la valeur de la propriété country (P17) (et ensuite sur l’élément ainsi trouvé, la valeur de ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 code (P298). Sur English (Q1860), country (P17) a plein de valeurs donc la requête SPARQL en récupère seulement un, et c’est tombé sur le Canada.

restreindre à celles qui ont un lien sur frwikisource

Houlà, on va essayer ^_^'

Ça a l’air de marcher avec |selector_sparql=wdt:P31 wd:Q3331189. ?sitelink schema:about ?entity; schema:isPartOf <https://fr.wikisource.org/>

non, en fait, ça fait planter pour cause de timeout :( - je reviens à la version antérieure... --Hsarrazin (talk) 09:37, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

les éléments qui n'ont PAS ENCORE de langue.

Oui, c’est stats_for_no_group=true

que toutes les langues s'affichent, peu importe le nombre d'éléments

C’est grouping_threshold=0

Est-il possible d'associer 2 propriétés et de calculer l'un OU l'autre (P123/P1433) ?

Hmmmm, intéressant… Je n’y avais pas pensé à ça… J’ai saisi phab:T236937 pour en discuter.

un tableau de bord de tous les éléments liés à frwikisource, groupés par P31

C’est possible en théorie, en pratique il me faudra résoudre un autre problème − stay tuned :)

Jean-Fred (talk) 20:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

merci pour tout ce que tu m'as déjà débloqué... je vais avancer avec ça :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 20:38, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Pour le tableau de bord de tous les éléments liés à frwikisource, groupés par P31, tu peux déjà en faire une version ultra-basique (just le nombre) avec Listeria: User:Jean-Frédéric/Sandbox2. Jean-Fred (talk) 21:38, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Nouveau projet

Bonjour Jean-Frédéric,

je pense qu'il pourrait être bien de présenter le projet que tu viens de créer sur le Project chat. Je l'ai découvert inopinément (via la page des propositions de propriété), comme beaucoup de projets fructueux que certaines utilisateurs qui pourraient être intéressés méconnaissent.

Je me permets de te suggérer de donner quelques exemples tirés aussi du monde de la radio, et d'élargir au concept d'émission ; qu'en penses-tu ?

Bien à toi, Nomen ad hoc (talk) 17:54, 3 November 2019 (UTC).

proposals

Où as-tu archivé les propositions? - Coagulans (talk) 18:30, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Oh, what an idiot I am − I archived them nowhere >_> (for some reason I thought it was just archive through history). I’ll fix it first thing tomorrow morning unless someone beat me to it. Jean-Fred (talk) 21:35, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Done - Coagulans (talk) 19:08, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Much appreciated :) Jean-Fred (talk) 18:21, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Timeout sur Property dashboard : User:Léna/RATP

Bonjour et bonne année ! J'ai un soucis avec un property dashboard qui fait un timeout (?), ou en tout cas un message d'erreur. La requête correspondante renvoie un peu de 6000 résultats et j'arrive pas en regardant les exemples des autres où j'ai pu me tromper, est-ce que tu vois le soucis ? Léna (talk) 14:22, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

@Léna: Bonne année :)

Special:Diff/1091937694 a fait l’affaire − le bouzin est un peu fragile on dirait, pas tip-top niveau user-experience :-/

Jean-Fred (talk) 20:14, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Integraality on other wikis

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T243780

Hi Jean-Fred, I've been playing around with the Integraality dashboards and I think it would be really cool to be able to embed them in other wikis, not just Wikidata (just like Listeriabot works anywhere). Is it just about importing the templates, or will the bot only work on Wikidata? --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 13:08, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Alicia Fagerving (WMSE):, I must say, I had not thought about that at all. I don’t see any reason not to support it. Copying the templates would be necessary, but not sufficient, there would be a few code changes to do. I filed phab:T243780 to analyse it and I think it would be fairly straightforward. Jean-Fred (talk) 16:08, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! :D --Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 07:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

external-id, or not… THE DIFF

Re-bonsoir,

J'écris ici pour ne pas influencer. Et donc…

Non, parce qu'une grande partie des ID est comme les exemples que vous avez donnés : court. De plus, (je pense que vous parlez d'URL) un Data type URL ne se trouvera plus dans la partie des Identifiants. Je pense que tout est propre dans cette proposition, ÀMHA. Avec syntax clarification (P2916) sur les RegEx, le contributeur pourra être aiguillé vers le bon ID et Formatter URL reste le même. J'ai déjà vu des RegEx beaucoup plus long. Mais c'est le nombre d'entrées qui me pose souci. J'attends l'avis d'un autre contributeur pour voir… Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 21:14, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

et bonne année 2020 le dernier jour de janvier. —Eihel (talk) 21:21, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Salut,

(Pas la peine de se vouvoyer ^_^ [enfin, sauf si vous insistez pour qu’on se vouvoie :-) ])

Oui, c’est pas top que les URL ne soient pas avec les autres identifiants mais ce ne serait pas la première fois (pour le moment on a déjà itch.io URL (P7294), superfamicom.org URL (P7705), PlayStation DataCenter URL (P7707), 8-bits.info URL (P7890))

J’ai pas été vérifier mais je te fais confiance pour la regex :) Mais comme je n’avais initialement pas remarqué les examples type Robotron, je comprenais pas pourquoi elle était nécessaire.

Bref, merci d’être intervenu :) Par contre, je viens de remarquer que le formatter URL https://www.videogamehouse.net/$1.html ne marche pas avec le format gamemain/cartsnr/robotron/ (le .html final) − on peut toujours rajouter un /index (et faire https://www.videogamehouse.net/gamemain/cartsnr/robotron/index.html) mais ça ressemble plus vraiment à un identifiant non plus… :-/

Qu’en penses-tu?

(et bonne année 2020 :-) Jean-Fred (talk) 08:06, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done tout est remis en ordre. J'avais déjà suivi les autres propositions et je corrige aussi les nouvelles Propriétés. Aussi, itch.io. par exemple, est obligé d'être URL, car un identifiant ne peut contenir qu'une donnée dans WD : $1. Typiquement, itch.io contient plusieurs changements de part et d'autre des TLD et SLD.

Par contre il faut privilégier les ID externes autant que possible et en dernier ressort, faire appel à un « redirecteur » externe ou au datatype String. Par exemple, pour un simple changement de genre (women-men dans le sport par ex), il n'est pas nécessaire de créer une Propriété avec le datatype URL. Le datatype String ne produit pas de lien vers le site, mais il peut servir d'identifant. J'ai encore amélioré le RegEx. A+ —Eihel (talk) 10:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Modèle:Bases jeu

Salut. C'est quand qu'on envisage l'utilisation de toutes ces propriétés que tu inities ici sur Wikipédia en français ? Modèle:Bases jeu n'attend probablement que ça. Thierry Caro (talk) 18:40, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Salut. Hmm, je n’y avais pas plus pensé que ça à vrai dire ! Mon boulot sur les modèles de fr.wp s’est résumé à ajouter fr:Modèle:WikidataCheck sur les modèles existants.

Bon par contre, on a pas loin de 200 propriétés sur les jeux vidéo, ça fait potentiellement un peu beaucoup ^_^ Faudrait faire des choix j’imagine?

Jean-Fred (talk) 08:57, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Oui, il y a désormais une procédure semi-officielle qui demande de valider par un vote des Wikipédiens les nouvelles bases intégrées aux modèles tels que Modèle:Bases jeu. Si déjà on pouvait avoir une vingtaine de propositions solides (couvrant pas mal de jeux), ce serait bien. Peux-tu y penser un de ces quatre ? Thierry Caro (talk) 19:20, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Query simplification

Hi Jean-Frédéric,

At [3], "all items without the properties set" gives

SELECT DISTINCT ?entity ?entityLabel 
WHERE 
{
  ?entity wdt:P31 wd:Q41960 .  
  ?entity wdt:P551 wd:Q3115846 .  
  MINUS {    {?entity a wdno:P21 .} UNION   {?entity wdt:P21 ?prop .}  }  
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en" }
}

Try it!

maybe it could be simplified to

SELECT DISTINCT ?entity ?entityLabel 
WHERE 
{
    ?entity wdt:P31 wd:Q41960 .  
    ?entity wdt:P551 wd:Q3115846 .  
    MINUS {  ?entity p:P21 [] }
    SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}

Try it!

BTW, this one keeps failing these days. --- Jura 22:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Oh .. it ended up working . BTW InteGraality (Q84572489). --- Jura 22:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Maybe two "display on map"-buttons could be interesting. It would just need:

#defaultView:Map

?coor

OPTIONAL { ?entity wdt:P625 ?coor }

at the appropriate places and embed.html in the URL. Love the tool! --- Jura 19:20, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Browser Games

I've refrained from creating items about browser games as there is a huge variety regarding modeling making the whole thing a giant mess. Many of the items use instance of (P31) video game (Q7889) while others use browser game (Q848991). Meanwhile some of the items use platform (P400) web browser (Q6368) when others use HTML5 (Q2053) or personal computer (Q16338).

I think it would help greatly if we could all agree on model item (P5869). --Trade (talk) 21:30, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

Dashboard: sorting of higher_grouping column

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T245752

Hi Jean-Frédéric. The table includes <td data-sort-value="Q1234"> which leads sorting do be done by QID (data-sort-value) rather than the label. Is there a way to change this? --- Jura 01:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Hmmm… Technically, the application does not know about any labels (actually, it does look up the grouping label for the grouping link, but that’s a special case. It could be done, might be slightly slower as I’d need to query the label of each grouping/higher-grouping − but that could be done in the SPARQL… I will think about this in phab:T245752. Jean-Fred (talk) 16:41, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

I think it would be sufficient to not include "data-sort-value", then js will sort by label. For the first grouping column, this isn't present and it works. --- Jura 16:56, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Completeness flag(s)?

For [4], it could be interesting to set a number or percentage of items for which the columns are complete.

Also, some columns can reach completeness, others are mainly there for monitoring. --- Jura 03:36, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

I split that list into several subpages. When doing that, I tried to define the "link=" parameter. On {{Wikidata list}} this helps "manual" update link to keep working. However, here it breaks the bot and I'm not sure if the queries in the cell take it into account. --- Jura 16:27, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Skip throttle

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T244030

When reading for Template:Integraality_cell, I don't think there is much use of checking for lag. Can you skip that? --- Jura 13:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

This is the topic of phab:T244030. See phab:T245210 for my current thinking on this. Jean-Fred (talk) 13:52, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Maybe you could just submit a bot request for User:InteGraalityBot and described how it will operate/handle it going forward. --- Jura 13:57, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

There seem to be three separate cases: (1) cell: which should be very quick read-only (2) manual update: read, several queries, an update (should be fairly quick, but not overload query server; instead of edit lag, query server load seems important), (3) the weekly update (which can be very slow, if it's a cron job, I'd place it in a low traffic window at night US time). --- Jura 14:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello, Jean-Frédéric. Please check your e-mail – you've got mail!
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{YGM}} template. ROMaster2 (talk) 21:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!

	Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!
	By improving information about GLAM institutions on Wikidata, you made the Wikimedia projects better for everyone! Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 14:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

GRY-Online company ID (P7997)

Hi, In the property GRY-Online company ID (P7997), the English label is given as 'Gry Online company ID'. But in the examples given there are peoples also. So do the property need a name change or not.? Regards.-❙❚❚❙❙ JinOy ❚❙❚❙❙ ✉ 10:45, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Thank you for creating this property :)

It’s more bad design on the part of the database: their data model has two entity types − 'games' and 'companies', and assume that games are developed and published by companies. There is the odd game however which is developed by a single person. This is quite endemic to many games databases, other examples include OGDB company ID (P7570) or Gamekult company ID (P7911). That’s why the type constraint also accepts video game developer (Q58287519).

So I can see two solutions: following the database naming scheme and keeping company, or replacing with the more explicit “Gry Online developer/publisher ID”. So far, I just kept whichever name the database was using, but I’m happy to go either way. :-)

Jean-Fred (talk) 14:19, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. When I have checked both the properties OGDB company ID (P7570) and Gamekult company ID (P7911) have type contains violations. It has showed type contains violations for Terry Cavanagh (Q11709677) since only organization (Q43229) alone was added when i created the property. So that's why I changed it after that. Go ahead if you need any changes to it. Regards :) -❙❚❚❙❙ JinOy ❚❙❚❙❙ ✉ 14:54, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

X model

Salut JF,

video game console was very clean, almost all that used the VGC model were also subclass of VGC. Mobile phones was much more work, subclass missing etc.

25 in main space still use video game console model [5] - can you help removing them? MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 15:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

MobyGames

Hey, i noticed that WD were missing a lot of content ratings and content descriptors and i want to help wit that. If you could make a Mix'n'Match catalogue for Mobygames game ratings, descriptors and consumer advice that would be a huge help! Kind regards Trade (talk) 01:26, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

@Trade: I could not find a page listing all potential attributes so I wrote a script to iterate all potential attributes and stored the result as 3646 − it’s a very mixed collection, but I hope that helps :) Thanks for your work on ratings and descriptors! Jean-Fred (talk) 12:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Probably Incorrect Match on Mix & Match

Hey Jean-Fred, it's been a while! Looks like you've been busy here while I was gone; I take it the Mix & Match thing is your creation? It seems pretty cool! Unfortunately another user seems to have incorrectly matched Death Star Interceptor (Q65681214) with Death Star (Q97495898) via Mix-n-Match. I removed the incorrect MobyGames id from Death Star Interceptor (Q65681214), but I guess I should probably remove the mix and match it came from too? I did see a remove button there, but wasn't sure if I should press it =D Rampagingcarrot (talk) 06:57, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Rampagingcarrot: Long time no see :)

Yeah, I have been busy adding a bunch of catalogues to Mix’n’match (though I’m not the only one!).

Re: incorrect match: yes, please use “Remove” in Mix’n’match and then map it to the correct item − that ensures the error does not come back in future syncs between Wikidata and Mix’n’match. There are a bunch of mismatches listed at User:Magnus Manske/Mix'n'match report/791.

Jean-Fred (talk) 10:11, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jean-Frédéric: Took me a bit to get to it, but I just updated the Mix'n'match, along with two other incorrect ones I found yesterday. I'll keep an eye out on the pages I work on --Rampagingcarrot (talk) 20:09, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Dashboard selector_sparql

To solve the problem outlined at Wikidata:Request_a_query#Convulted_syntax_(property_dashboard), creating an additional field that would be used if present (e.g. "selector_with_sparql") that would allow the input of:

?entity wdt:P31 wd:Q1234.

or

{ SELECT DISTINCT ?entity { ?entity ^ wdt:P2860/wdt:P1433 wd:Q665807 } }

Both would be wrapped into:

SELECT ?entity { <insert here> }

contrary to "selector_sparql" that uses:

SELECT ?entity { ?entity <insert here> }

What do you think? Would they work with the other queries as well? --- Jura 07:33, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

This is a bit similar to phab:T224229. It’s probably doable, but I’m not sure of how much work it would be (as the selector sparql is used in several queries). Won’t have time to work on that any time soon ; but could you please file a Phabricator task describing the usecase? It will be very helpful down the line. Thanks! Jean-Fred (talk) 10:04, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

About WikiCite 2020

Dear Mr.,

We are organizing a French-speaking session of WikiCite 2020 online on 27 October 2020 from 15:00 to 19:00 UTC. Further information on the preliminary program can be found at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E_a7I6PRYUlfdw6aPqR4X9FMgwsiXBpsZc0_AJLPINU/edit?usp=sharing. We are still finding a speaker that can introduce Wikidata and the bibliographic metadata it currently involves to the session audience. I ask if you can present Wikidata during the session.

Yours Sincerely,

--Csisc (talk) 11:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

User:Multichill/Monuments statistics

User:Multichill/Monuments statistics filled up. Did you do an update of the code? :-) Multichill (talk) 18:05, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

We sent you an e-mail

Hello Jean-Frédéric,

Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email surveys@wikimedia.org.

You can see my explanation here.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Baccano!

Back in May you added a VNDB ID to Baccano! (Q484579), but the VNDB record is for a Nintendo DS video game. The item is for the anime and light novel (which should be two separate items, but I digress), and the DS video game should be a separate item entirely. Just figured I'd mention that in case there might be other items like that :) Hope you're doing well! Nicereddy (talk) 05:23, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

How to create a catalog for IGDB games in Mix'n'match

I'd like to create a catalog similar to the Mobygames catalog on Mix'n'match but for IGDB database listings instead (which is already a type in wikidata. Despite reading the manual I'm still not sure how to import properly or confident enough that I will do it right. Any help guiding me in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks, SuperUserCode (talk) 03:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Deprecate PCGW v3 catalog

@Jean-Frédéric: I've made a new v4 catalog in Mix'n'match for PCGamingWiki with new data and better descriptions based on a dump of the site that I created. I'm trying to uncheck the 'Active' box on v3 but it doesn't do anything. IIRC you were able to do it last time when I wasn't, would you mind doing that again and deactivating v3? https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/?#/catalog/2375

Thanks! Hope you're doing well :) -Nicereddy (talk) 01:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Property dashboard query

Bonjour Jean-Frédéric, I asked for some help on creating a query that uses UNION to work with the Property dashboard. The proposed solution from Jura doesn't seem to work either. Is this something the dashboard can do? Merci for any help! --Nashona (talk) 16:58, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Nashona:, thanks for your message!

The selector_sparql parameter does not work that way − see the documentation at {{Property dashboard}}. For the sake of simplicity, it expects a SPARQL fragment − in the most basic form something like wdt:P31 wd:Q7889 and builds a SPARQL query around it (the code).

The {{Property dashboard}} template generates links to SPARQL queries, which are the same that some of the ones integraality will use. If you follow these links, you will see how the final queries look like. If one does not work, then integraality will not either.

You are not the first person that needs more complex querying, I have been thinking about an 'expert mode' where users could just pass their SPARQL but it’s not easy and needs careful planning.

It is often possible to use clever SPARQL constructs to trick the selector_sparql to do what you want. I have tried somethink in Special:Diff/1389102965 which I think should work.

However it seems that there are issues loading the configuration − I think because of the curly braces. I filed this as phab:T278387 and will try to look into this later.

Jean-Fred (talk) 20:49, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll take a look at it. Something else is happening to previously created dashboards that use wdt:P31/wdt:P279* I've filed it as phab:T278156. It times out. Nashona (talk) 17:53, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Un problème avec InteGraalityBot

Bonjour Jean-Frédéric,
ton bot est incapable de mettre à jour Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Property statistics/Sandbox. Il ne l'a pas fait automatiquement et toutes les tentatives manuelles se sont soldées par un message d'erreur. Comme je ne souhaite pas en passer par Phabricator pour le signaler, je m'adresse directement à toi.
En te remerciant de bien vouloir jeter un coup d'œil à ta "bécane",
bien cordialement,
Edelseider (talk) 09:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Bonjour Jean-Frédéric,

j'ai formulé une requête urgente et polie, mais tu l'ignores. Que faut-il faire pour attirer ton attention ?

Bien à toi,

Edelseider (talk) 08:22, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

@Edelseider: Euh, alors, en l’occurrence, j’ai passé une partie de ma soirée d’hier à essayer de débugguer ce problème (spoiler: j’y ai passé 1h et ne sais toujours pas d’où le problème peut venir) (et dans le même temps, ça ne semble concerner que cette page − les autre pages semblent mises à jour correctement).

Sur ma page utilisateur est en ce moment indiquée “This user is on Wikislow for the foreseeable future and will only check and edit sporadically (if at all).”. Je suis bénévole, j’ai de manière générale autre chose à faire que coder mes outils, et en particulier en ce moment où je m’occupe à temps plein d’un enfant en bas âge.

Donc, félicitations, tu as su attirer mon attention pleine et entière − pour processer l’énergie négative que ton second message a déclenchée, et étrangement je suis subitement nettement moins motivé pour travailler à ton problème.

Jean-Fred (talk) 10:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Merci, Jean-Fred, de travailler à mon problème, qui est en l'occurrence plutôt celui d'InteGraalityBot et donc par extension celui de toute la communauté Wikidata (toi inclus). La négativité de mon message s'explique par le fait que tu n'avais pas accusé réception. N'étant pas médium ou hacker, je n'avais aucun moyen de savoir si tu t'en branlais ou ce que tu faisais hier soir. Et c'est d'ailleurs heureux, car je ne pense pas que tu voudrais que je connaisse tes moindres faits et gestes ! ;) Edelseider (talk) 11:01, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

FYI: User talk:Edelseider#Harassment_of_other_users. Multichill (talk) 12:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors

Dear Jean-Frédéric,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at the King’s College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research that develops a personalized recommendation system to suggest Wikidata items for the editors based on their interests and preferences. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I would love to talk with you to know about your current ways to choose the items you work on in Wikidata and understand the factors that might influence such a decision. Your cooperation will give us valuable insights into building a recommender system that can help improve your editing experience.

Participation is completely voluntary. You have the option to withdraw at any time. Your data will be processed under the terms of UK data protection law (including the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018). The information and data that you provide will remain confidential; it will only be stored on the password-protected computer of the researchers. We will use the results anonymized (?) to provide insights into the practices of the editors in item selection processes for editing and publish the results of the study to a research venue. If you decide to take part, we will ask you to sign a consent form, and you will be given a copy of this consent form to keep.

If you’re interested in participating and have 15-20 minutes to chat (I promise to keep the time!), please either contact me on kholoudsaa@gmail.com or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmmFHaiB20nK14wrQJgfrA18PtmdagyeRib3xGtvzkdn3Lgw/viewform?usp=sf_link with your choice of the times that work for you.

I’ll follow up with you to figure out what method is the best way for us to connect.

Please contact me using the email mentioned above if you have any questions or require more information about this project.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoud

Polygon.com

Your catalog seems to be broken. --Trade (talk) 23:30, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

For the broken links? It’s quite weird, eg Secret of Mana (Q50384002) is 40332, and the canonical URL has an additional slug https://www.polygon.com/game/secret-of-mana-2018/40332. With https://www.polygon.com/game/_/40332 you get redirected to https://www.polygon.com/game/secret-of-mana-2018/40332/show − which is a 404, but proves that the numerical ID is enough. Removing the trailing /show then works. So, I’m convinced the numerical ID is good, however I could not find quite a formatter URL that works. Jean-Fred (talk) 09:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Duplicate entries in the "speedrun.com" Mix-n-Match catalog

Hi ! It seems that the Mix'n'match catalog for "games on speedrun.com" (https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/catalog/2631) has duplicate entries. See : https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q65040562&action=history. Would it be possible to get rid of them? --Poslovitch (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Undoing merges

Hi, you recently undid a merge of mine here. (Thank you btw, I completely agree that Donkey Kong 64 (Q774773) and Q61740955 should not be merged.) I just wanted to tell you, if you undo a merge you also must undo the merge on the other item as well (like this). Otherwise the merged item will still redirect to the target item and all statements are lost. --Haansn08 (talk) 18:23, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

Dear Jean-Frédéric,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits. Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

The study will start in late January 2022 or early February 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes.

If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link I will contact you with the link to start the study.

For more information about the study, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 18:50, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Grabbing Steam pages

Greetings. I'm planning to add information from Steam pages, at least language of work or name (P407). Here's sandbox edit and sample edit with qualifiers, and a couple examples without qualifiers (I don't specify any qualifiers if all localizations are equally complete according to Steam. Some indie titles tend to specify that all localzations have voice acting even if there's no speech in the game whatsoever, so grabbing this infomation might be misleading).

What do you think? Are references good enough? I'm personally not sure about voice acting (Q22920017), but I can't find better element for qualifier.

Also, is it possible to edit Wikidata via VPN? Lots of steam pages are unavailable in my country unfortunately and I can't find a way to bypass it. Facenapalm (talk) 03:27, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey @Facenapalm:, sorry for the delayed answer.

These look very good! Awesome job with the qualifiers − I think voice acting (Q22920017) is fine.

One edge case I foresee is for games with local releases separate from the Steam release. For example − Final Fantasy IX (Q474573) was re-released on Steam, where it’s available in English/French/Italian/German/Spanish. But my old PlayStation copy only had French available − and obviously the game is available in Japanese too somewhere (although maybe not on Steam?) Barring separating the local releases, should we flag that this is true 'only' for the Steam release − using some qualifier? But I am not sure which, and in some ways it would also be misleading (That FFIX has French interface is not 'only' true for the Steam release, it was also the case on PS1) − thinking more, the languages have clear references so it’s probably fine like that.

Thanks for all these additions!

Jean-Fred (talk) 07:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Re:VPN: per meta:No open proxies, VPN will generally be blocked from editing Wikimedia projects (unless you have IPBLock exemption).

One solution I can think of would be to do the Steam scraping on VPN, persist it locally, and then get off VPN to do the Wikidata edits.

Also, you can try running your scripts on the Wikimedia cloud − on Toolforge, or perhaps using PAWS? (I would assume these IPs are all in the US, I assume most of Steam would be accessible from there). Jean-Fred (talk) 08:15, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

> One solution I can think of would be to do the Steam scraping on VPN, persist it locally, and then get off VPN to do the Wikidata edits.

That's what I did in the end, yup. And I completely forgot I have a toolforge account, thanks for the reminder. :D

Regarding separate releases — I'm not sure whether it's possible to handle it with script, looks like a manual job for me. I skipped items with more than one Steam ID set, but comparing different IDs to see whether it's a single release or was the game re-released would probably require human evaluation. Facenapalm (talk) 10:55, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Did my email from Aug 24th end up in your spam folder?

What the title says :) Hope all is well! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 09:26, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

"Firma aus Deutschland (aktiv)"

Hallo ,

wo kommt die komische Beschreibung von Ark Heiral (Q114711458) her?-- Robin Venetia Ellacott (talk) 13:41, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Die stammt aus https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/entry/94327248 welche zwei Felder von https://ogdb.eu/index.php?section=company&companyid=21698 zusammenklebt. Zum matchen vielleicht hilfreich, als Beschreibung weniger gut. Ich erstelle oft lieber manuell den Eintrag als es durch Mix'n'Match zu automatisieren. Gruß Matthias M. (talk) 14:49, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Aide à propos des liens vers la base de la BNF

Je voudrais ajouter un lien vers la BNF sur l'élément Q116167946, notamment car la propriété Gallica ID (P4258) exige un identifiant Bnf, le lien permanent est https://archivesetmanuscrits.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cc85315k mais cela ne marche pas avec la propriété Bibliothèque nationale de France ID (P268). Est-ce qu'il y a quelque chose que je loupe ? Merci beaucoup Weft (talk) 22:52, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

AdventureCorner.de Mix-n-Match catalog

All the links are 404. :( Matthias M. (talk) 17:43, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

@Matthias M.: Thanks for raising this! Aargh, they must have changed something in their backend, https://www.adventurecorner.de/game/2265/ does not resolve but https://www.adventurecorner.de/game/2265/_ does. I’ll try to recreate the catalog at some point. Thanks again! Jean-Fred (talk) 19:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Is it possible to edit a mix-n-match catalog? Matthias M. (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

It is but limited. In the case of scraper catalogs (which is the case here) you can update the scraper however, as far as I know, it does not update the old values, only adds new ones.

New catalog started at mixnmatch:5947 − might take a while before it populates. Jean-Fred (talk) 12:10, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

LD4 call

Salut Jean-Fred ! Merci pour la réponse positive. Could you send me an email to this contact? I can send you a calendar invite and we can coordinate there. We can include more people as we go if anyone else comments that they are up for it :) --Utl jung (talk) 21:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

GamersGlobal video game series

I just noticed it does not work as it isn't connected yet to GamersGlobal game ID (P11771). Matthias M. (talk) 13:11, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, we would need to propose a property for it (it’s a different formatter URL so can’t really fit with P11771). The catalog still works insofar as it does track the matches and if/when the property is created, we can always sync the matches.

It takes somewhat longer to make a property proposal than to create a catalog, so I often do the latter and catch up later − if you look at all the video game catalogs, plenty do not have a linked property. Jean-Fred (talk) 19:30, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

I see. Created Wikidata:Property proposal/GamersGlobal group ID then. Matthias M. (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Autofill Details

Hi! I don't remember what the plugin to autofill details of references is called but would it be possible to make some adjustments? Trade (talk) 17:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

@Trade: That’s Wikidata:Tools/CiteTool, it’s a gadget now. You can suggest adjustments on the talk page MediaWiki talk:Gadget-CiteTool.js or Wikidata_talk:Tools/CiteTool I guess :) Jean-Fred (talk) 19:27, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Feedback sur une proposition de proprieté

Salut,

vu que tu as fait un petit paquet de propriété par le passé, est ce que tu as une idée de ce qui coince sur Wikidata:Property_proposal/Identifiant_Médiathèque_Numérique_CVS. Je suis sans doute un peu rouillé, mais j'ai le sentiment d'avoir rien oublié. Sauf que personne ne réagit ni sur les projets, ni ailleurs, donc j'ai le sentiment d'être un peu coincé. Est ce que tu penses que bouger la proposition dans une autre catégorie serait une solution ? Misc (talk) 15:30, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Salut! La proposition me semble bien (juste un détail, les trois exemples donnés sont des films mais le domaine dit aussi séries TV et livre − un exemple de chaque serait bien). Pas sûr de pourquoi personne n’a commenté − mais pour les notifs, celle au projet Books n’aura pas marché (trop de participants), et j’ai l’impression que Movies et un peu comateux comme projet. Bon en tout cas ta propale a mon soutien :) Jean-Fred (talk) 08:02, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Merci, ça a visiblement fait l'affaire. Je vais regarder plus tard pour ta remarque sur les jeux vidéos, je n'avais pas vu ça vu que ma bibli ne propose pas l'offre. Je suppose que je vais faire une autre proprieté et adapter mon script de scraping pour mix and match. --Misc (talk) 12:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Touhou Wiki ID (P12585)

Any clue why the identifier doesn't work? I keep getting redirected to "about:blank#blocked" Trade (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Same with TUESPWiki ID (P12590) Trade (talk) 22:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)