לערי ריינהארט

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Welcome‎ לערי ריינהארט to Wikidata!

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 19:36, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 02:14, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

requests

1. missing person, date of birth, of death
2. Query existing VIAF but no article in enwikipedia
3. searching "new Node" lines in VIAF source code

Autopatroller

Template:Autopatroller/text/en The Anonymouse (talk) 15:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

RSL ID (person) (P947)

Hello! I have created this property now. Please add a few examples, label translations, if you can. --Danrok (talk) 15:59, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Universal Esperanto Association (Q12565)

Hi there! Thank you. I don't understand your question, though. What would you like to do? Pikolas (talk) 13:37, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Nice! No problem. This is probably best done by a bot, but while the cavalry doesn't arrive, let's get to it! :) Pikolas (talk) 13:58, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

ISNI format

Hi! It's just to say you that ISNIs should be formated with a space each 4 digits like in XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX. See the description of the property. Tpt (talk) 08:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

reminders

{{Collapse top}}
testcases

• empty parameters as |LCCN= | generate the (+) link at Q13520818; this does not make much sense
• viaf.org may contain contradictory VIAF values generated via WKP (Wikipedia) see / verify Q360771 and the relations betweeen viaf:24064958 and viaf:24064958 regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 19:12, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

{{Autorité|NOTES=transcluded_values_from_wikidata|REMARK=testcase}}

1. should not use template:templatename
2. spaces are trimed

• All pages (Query namespace) is empty

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 09:56, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

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At Hermann Adam (Q1610497) using viaf:93264074 I can not reach the BnF link I see

The page isn't redirecting properly
Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 06:41, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

WhatLinksHere/user:Magnus Manske/authority control.js|limit=500 I18n (talk) 13:21, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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from Property talk:P227

{{Constraint:Single value}}
{{Constraint:Unique value|exceptions= {{Q|13261}}, {{Q|208008}}, {{Q|196538}}, {{Q|912313}}, {{Q|19786}}, {{Q|83367}}, {{Q|346549}}, {{Q|1371037}} }}
{{Constraint:Format|pattern=(1|10)\d{7}[0-9X]|[47]\d{6}-\d|[1-9]\d{0,7}-[0-9X]|3\d{7}[0-9X]}}

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 03:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

...

• https://he.wikipedia.org/?curid=874735 לערי ריינהארט (talk) 20:01, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation (Q1151870)

^{wgArticleId:16714844#disambiguation}
Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)

Europa (Q741380)

• en: disambiguation · Wikimedia disambiguation page
• de: Begriffserklärung · Begriffsklärungsseite
  • de: Begriffserklarung · Begriffsklärungsseite
• eo: apartigilo · Begriffsklärungsseite
• hu: egyértelműsítő lap · egyértelműsítő lap
  • hu: egyertelmusíto lap · egyértelműsítő lap
  • hu: egyértelműsítő lapok · egyértelműsítő lap
• ro: dezambiguizare · dezambiguizare
• ru: значения · страница значений

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:32, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

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• en: Fridtjof Nansen
  • mi: Fridtjof Nansen · testing aliases
  • rmy: Fridtjof Nansen · testing aliases

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 22:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

NUKAT identifiers

Hello! I've seen all your suggestions and even started thread about it in our technical forum. I looked around in the net about the NUKAT identifiers and found document describing its format. However, the NUKAT interface allows only to search the data in its database using titles or author names. There is no interface to access specific records of data using the identifiers. The identifiers are used internally only to export the data in MARC standards (Q722609) format. There is an information in the NUKAT that they admit to cooperate with VIAF and OCLC. Until the NUKAT do not provide some interfaces to retrieve, validate or verify the identifiers defining the property to hold it is useless.

Technically the identifier format used since 2002 is l@yyyynnnnnn. Records assigned earlier have format l@@yynnnnnn. The l is letter (n, t, s, x, p or m), the @ is a space, yyyy is four digits year, yy last two digits of year and nnnnnn is a sequential number in the year, when the identifier was assigned. The specification is found here at page with number 16 (12th in PDF), and sorry it is in Polish only.

Regards. Paweł Ziemian (talk) 12:43, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

National Library of Israel ID (old) (P949) / NLI (Israel) identifier

Hello! This property has been created. Danrok (talk) 14:42, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

This is great! Thanks a lot! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

National Library of Spain ID (P950) / BNE identifier

This property has been created. --Danrok (talk) 14:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

NSZL (VIAF) ID (P951) / NSZL identifier

This property has been created now. --Danrok (talk) 18:12, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Wo recherchiere ich Normdaten?

Hallo Gangleri, schön, dass du in WD so zahlreiche Normdaten einträgt, bitte übernehme sie aber aus der ursprünglichen Quelle, sonst macht ein Bot die Arbeit besser und schneller. Offenbar arbeitest du nach dem Motto: VIAF + Drag & Drop, da du Fantasienummern wie "GND identifier 004797086" einträgst. Wenn du solche Nummern überprüfst, erhälst du das Ergebnis: 404 NOT FOUND. VIAF ist ein nützliches Hilfsmittel, aber weder ist VIAF vollständig, noch aktuell, noch stimmen die Nummern in allen Fällen mit dem Original überein. --Kolja21 (talk) 03:04, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Das ist ein Fehler in Magnus tool. Mögliche Fehlerquellen:

Magnus unterstützt keine Nummer mit Format MINUS+Zeichen (Zahl oer X) wie http://d-nb.info/gnd/2022016-9/about/html 2022016-9.
Sie gehört zu VIAF ID: 140196814 (Corporate).

Eventuell gibt es eine DNB interne Weiterleitung. Ich nehme an, daß das tool History of VIAF ID:140196814 (18) scannt und dort DNB|004797086 findet. Stimmt. Das ist die von Dir genannte Nummer.

Gruß לערי ריינהארט (talk) 03:18, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Das ist natürlich noch schlechter. Entschuldige das Oberlehrerhafte, aber Grundlage aller wissenschaftler Arbeit ist das Studium von Quellen. Die einzige Entschuldigung, sich nicht die Mühe zu machen, das Original heranzuziehen ist, dass das Original nicht oder extrem schwer zugänglich ist. Die GND-Datenbanken erreichst du 24 Std. am Tag. Die korrekte Nummer zu ermitteln, erfordert nur einen einzigen Klick. Wenn du dich dagegen auf ein Tool verlässt, das sich seinerseit wiederum nur auf VIAF als Fundort bezieht, ist das so, wie wenn du in Wikipedia schreiben würdest, Goethe sei 1831 gestorben, denn das habe ein Freund von dir in der Zeitung gelesen. (Das heißt natürlich nicht, dass Tageszeitungen oder das oben angeführte tool nichts taugen, nur wenn du sie als Hilfsmittel nutzt, musst du das Ergebnis überprüfen, bevor du es einträgst.) --Kolja21 (talk) 03:43, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Ich habe den Fehler unter User talk:Magnus Manske#special handling for corporate GND type values gemeldet. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 08:03, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

User talk:ValterVB

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For future reference

WD:RFD is usually faster, and easier for admins, than making a request on an item's talkpage. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 05:08, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Ping me here please!

Ping me here please! ^{wgArticleId:16714844}
Thanks! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

NORAF ID (P1015)

The property has been created. I didn't have time to create more properties. --Stryn (talk) 18:08, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: family name (P734) and given name (P735)

^{wgArticleId:16714844#ArchiveWikidataDiskutejo}
Hi! I start with the easier question. As you noticed, Hungarian names start with surnames and end with given names but we do not apply this to foreign names except in a very few cases. In the case of Bernhard Alexander (Q533605) (hu: Alexander Bernát) case Alexander is the surname and Bernát is the given one. When Hungarian names appear in English texts, the order usually changes (but not always). Therefore, when you meet a Hungarian name, it will start with the surname in the name of the Hungarian article but end with it in the name of articles in most other languages. – Matthew Beta (talk) 12:42, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I moved the Romanian project chat to the name you suggested, and added it to the language template. As for archiving you should check this: User:Hazard-Bot/Archiving. Unfortunately, I don't know the Esperanto terms but something like this should be added after the header:

{{Archiving|Arkivo}}
{{User:Hazard-Bot/Archiver
|archiveheader = {{Archive}}
|algo = old(10d)
|archive = Wikidata:Diskutejo/Arkivo/%(year)d/%(month)02d
}}

– Matthew Beta (talk) 14:11, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

NORAF ID (P1015)

Hi, I didn't create that property, maybe you should ask Stryn to archive it.--Micru (talk) 16:02, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I added it to wrong archive yesterday (because of old link in step 3 here: Wikidata:Property creators). Now it's on the 15th archive page. --Stryn (talk) 17:02, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

WKP identifier

The conversation is still available on the proposal page, and it will be moved to the archive shortly. I have marked as "not done" because of lacking consensus. Actually the whole point of Wikidata is to use the Q numbers as the ID for Wikipedia articles. The wkp article name can change but the Wikidata identifier is stable and it will help any external organization to use that and to extract from the sitelinks the name of the article in the language they wish when needed.--Micru (talk) 11:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Odd changes

Hi,

Please stop the changing names to use weird capitalization. Also, please stop adding aliases which provide no value. --Izno (talk) 00:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

@Izno The capitalization of family names / surnames is common practice in Esperanto. Would you require Hungarian contributors to use GIVEN_NAME SURNAME order? Would you require Japanese contributors the same? Would you require Russian contributors to use West European naming practice in the Russian fields?

Re: Esperanto conventions Maybe you have noticed that it happens that the first name is capitalized. It is common practice to keep the language order of the native cultural community. Is it a crime to use the Esperanto naming convention? How many articles in Esperanto have you checked?

Re: aliases From how many languages have you imported pages? I can not log off and on again for each page. I will try to use the language switch at the top of the Wikidata page near the user icon. This should make things (imports) easier. However it might happen that I can never find the pages again as cross language search is not implemented or not functioning / working.

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 00:30, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I would expect names to look sensible. Fully capitalized does not. Nor does it make good sense from a database point of view—the capitals are style, and not content. We should work to preserve content without forcing style unnecessarily on end users.

I'm not sure how importing is relevant. As for a suitable alternative, you could consider filling in the title in the English language as the translation of the foreign language's title. --Izno (talk) 01:15, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I think that preserving traditional costumns makes sense. Else we could use lowercase letters anywhere, in all languages and in all fields.
regarding aliases: I tried to link from ro.Wikipedia to Wikidata with Romanian interface using [[<nowiki>special:ItemByTitle/rowiki/'''foo'''<nowiki>]] syntax.
Now I have big problems because I do neither know the exact spelling for the generic properties not the exact spelling of the allowed values.
I assume that you know that

1. search is buggy / fails if non basic Latin UTF-8 characters are involved; see https://www.wikidata.org/?curid=16714844#disambiguation
2. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewItem&site=rowiki&page=foo_nonexisting_page_at_wikidata_bar does not include a field for the alias. If you do not want to work with random Q007, Q1984 etc. it is helpful to have an alias (in English / your main language of editing). So in order to create a page you need to specify either an English label or an English description. You have run in a deadlock situation. As soon as the page is created you may insert a lot of information in Wikidata and the proper translation and description can be done by contributors having a more advanced level of English.
   

Do you have a better alternative then doing nothing and waiting for translators wich may arrive next day, next week, next month, next year or when the world gets peaceful. Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 02:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Visibly he continues adding these weird capitalizations (that are also not a common practice in Esperanto, but an editorial style practice used in some areas where Esperanto language (among other languages) is used.

I definitely support the revertss of these capitalized names, notably because this is not needed in Wikidata that already makes the necessary semantc distinctions between surnames/family names and given name/first name. Such capitalization may be added contextually by styling in relevant articles or texts where such distinction is not visible, but definitely not everywhere.

Also there are string semantic differences in prople names depending on capitalization, even in Esperanto ! Esperanto is an international language and needs to protect the convention used by peopl in their own country (even for people that also speak Esperanto as a secondary language, they want their orthography to be preserved as much as possible);

Only transcrptions to other scripts may need to adapt and loose some distinctions (for example when converting from Latin-script to unpointed modern Hebrew, Chinese or Korean) or add some phonetic distinctions (for example from unpointed Hebrew to Latin, by inserting vowels).

But within the same script, the original capitalization must be preserved, even if a language replaces some base letters absent from its alphabet to another letter (such as changing 'ɔ/Ɔ' into 'o/O') or is removing some diacritics specific to the original language (e.g. removing a combining caron or ring above Latin letters in a French translitteration, as this is effectively a common practice in that language that does not know how to read and write these diacritics).

Each language (in their regional variant) will then use it's own common ordering betwen surnames and given name, also according to specific conventions for each document: this will solve the ambiguities that could be observed if the order or names varies; changing the capitalization is much more weird and irrespectuous than swapping names. Verdy p (talk) 10:46, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

@Izno, @Verdy_p, Please see also #CAPITALIZATION. Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 09:03, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

NSZL (VIAF) ID (P951) and the gadget you asked about

^{wgArticleId:16714844#linkificationNSZL}

a) I looked for how to add links to the NSZL IDs but I found them nowhere on NSZL's webpage or catalouges or on any other website other than VIAF. VIAF, however, does link authority files of NSZL but with completely different IDs. (An example: for Julio Baghy (Q12773) VIAF suggests 000000000058 as the NSZL ID but its link brings you to http://nektar.oszk.hu/auth/123387 with a different ID (123387). The best thing may be to write to NSZL at inform@oszk.hu and ask them about it.

Could you or a colleague from the Hungarian WMF chapter ask please?

b) You also asked if there are other popular library catalouges in Hungary. There is MOKKA (Hungarian National Common Catalouge) but I didn't manage to find author IDs there either, although, there must be some.

I have 19,000++ books in my main catalog at http://www.librarything.com/profile/gangleri . I am using / used various accounts to thest the GUI translation . see the friend list at http://www.librarything.com/profile/gangleri-hu .

At the main account I may hace ~ 200,000 tags. http://www.librarything.com/tagcloud/gangleri is an extract only. Some years ago I used to add links at pages tagged using Tag: ↑mokka.hu . I have seen that these links are outdated example [1]) The links where to books / editions / shelf links.

Here the detail type links with tag ↑mokka.hu':

http://www.librarything.com/work/156257/details/52035159

http://www.librarything.com/work/1922156/details/52035109

http://www.librarything.com/work/2051848/details/52069085

http://www.librarything.com/work/333083/details/74260825

http://www.librarything.com/work/336236/details/29920564

http://www.librarything.com/work/5904448/details/55164318

http://www.librarything.com/work/9406093/details/55065472

http://www.librarything.com/work/9406308/details/55067820

http://www.librarything.com/work/9421676/details/55212105

http://www.librarything.com/work/9429625/details/55288140

http://www.librarything.com/work/9431061/details/55299018

re: LT groups: http://www.librarything.com/topic/160469 refferes to the detection of newly added links to Wikidata via LT log links asvhttp://www.librarything.com/log_helpers.php?view=links&span=168 . Make a string search in your browser. You may find only a few instances of Wikidata links.

BTW: There is a hu. subdomain http://hu.librarything.com/ . The site requires cookies or log in. Click twice on any subdomain link encountered first time to see the content in another / that language.

c) The other thing you are looking for is: Wikidata:Tools#Display Wikidata Info on sister projects (Wikipedia, Wikivoyage, Commons, ...).

looking later; Thanks @Matthew_Beta for your help לערי ריינהארט (talk) 11:21, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

- Matthew Beta (talk) 10:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I also started a discussion on a) and b) at huwiki (here) with the folowwing findings:

a) 000000000058 is most probably an ID used within VIAF (to denote data in VIAF from NSZL) and the only way to linkify is http://viaf.org/processed/NSZL%7C000000000058. However, all these pages include an other ID ("HuBpOSK") which are the IDs used in nektar (catalouge of NSZL) that can link to the NSZL site: http://nektar.oszk.hu/resource/auth/123387.

b) There is indeed some kind of ID in MOKKA, as well (here), but I need to check how to obtain these, and also the links you showed above.

- Matthew Beta (talk) 08:23, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks @Matthew_Beta for your time. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 08:46, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Job code for your country

^{wgArticleId:16714844#job_code}

Hey, I was wondering whether you could propose the national job code (if there's one) for your country as a property. You can either propose it directly or on the occupations task force webpage --Teolemon (talk) 11:02, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

@Teolemon I was born in Romania and live in Munich, Germany since 1985. You may ask de:user:H-stt from Munich. I have no clue who works on the topic you asked: national job code (in other countries, here Germany) in portals, Main Wikipedia namespace pages etc. You may ask also at the community portals at various WMF wikis (at de: see de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia else see Project:Help desk (Q4026300) ), the embassies (at de: else see Wikipedia:Embassy (Q1197883) ) etc. At Wikidata you may take a look at special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Administrators by language, at category:user de-N, at pages linked to Project:Wikidata (Q4847210) , at pages linked to Wikipedia:Contact us (Q4654783) etc. in order to identify people you already know and who can help you. Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 11:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

I already have done a pending request for Germany (I speak German), but if you can find the Romanian one, that'd be helpful. I'll also go to the various embassies to ask for help. thanks a lot, --Teolemon (talk) 12:16, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Please use ?diff and / or ?history in order to see the changes! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 12:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Serbian language libraries

Hi,

I see you are interested in finding books in national libraries. In case of national library of Serbia they have their website which allows interested people to search the catalog of the books they have and to read online digital version of some of copyright free works. Here is a link to digital version of some texts.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:33, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

I regularly edit en.wiki so in case you want to leave a message to me feel free to do it there. Cheers.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:35, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks @Antidiskriminator. I willo take a look tomorrow / soon. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 22:39, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Your Dutch Gebruikerspagina

Dear Polyglot, Welcome to the Dutch Wikivoyage. Could you please be so kind as to explain in English or German what your contributions to the Dutch Wikivoyage will be, and how your name is written in the Latin alphabet? Thanks in advance, DrMennoWolters (talk) 13:26, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

re: https://nl.wikivoyage.org/?curid=11013#

Hi! I am a fault finder. At Q8990577|diff=93694442&oldid=93406486#top I have added a Swedish label. Now wikivoyage:sv:Wikivoyage:Välkommen would show:

• Wikidata: Wikipedia:Välkommen (Q8990577), no description given
• Aliases: None

Before this change it was showing:

• Wikidata: (No label) (Q8990577), no description given
• Aliases: None

In order to detect this you may need to copy the content from

• https://sv.wikivoyage.org/?curid=9190# to wikivoyage:sv:special:MyPage/common.js, wikivoyage:nl:special:MyPage/common.js, etc.
• optionaly you may copy parts of https://sv.wikivoyage.org/?curid=9194# to wikivoyage:sv:special:MyPage/vector.js, wikivoyage:nl:special:MyPage/vector.js, etc.

Good luck! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I have copied this section to your Dutch Gebruikerspagina, although I don't see what your Swedish reference has to do with it. DrMennoWolters (talk) 11:42, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Category:Authority control/testcases

Hello, what is authority control and what are these pages for? Is it something administrative- or maintenance-related to Wikidata? TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 03:59, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

There is no Category:Authority control so this subcategory should be deleted. Unfortunatly it's difficult to communicate with Q15068385. We spend hours and days to clean up his tests in Wikipedia. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:28, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

The pages from /testcases where created beginning of October 2013. To each of them one maintenance issue is required. Unfortunately I did not have the time to write details so far.
Q15068385 shows:

• This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.
  • 21:43, 28 December 2013 Izno (talk | contribs) deleted page Q15068385 (no links, unused for anything but user's page)

Do not blame me for the deletion. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:18, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Tools access request

You don't need an account in Tools to use Commonshelper or any other tool hosted there. If you experience problems with an individual tool, please contact the tool's author(s) directly. For tools hosted on Tools, you can find a list of contacts on the Tools homepage. --Tim Landscheidt (talk) 14:42, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Person/Work/Corporate

Hi, thanks for adding a lot of authority control IDs. But please do not add "Corporate" IDs to "Person" item: [2]. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 18:50, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

re: Kgalema Motlanthe (Q152327) viaf:121177141 is related to

South Africa. President (2008-2009 : Motlanthe)

VIAF ID: 121177141 (Corporate)

Permalink: http://viaf.org/viaf/121177141

Library of Congress/NACO 110 1 _ ‎‡a South Africa.‏ ‎‡b President (2008-2009 : Motlanthe)‏

It was the first identifier of this kind I found. I was not aware of the difference see VIAF search Corporate Bill Clinton.

Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 19:46, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I do not understand the idea of these items. Its comes from Library of Congress: [3]. Maybe its are needed to divide president as person and president`s administration as organization. Are you use some kind of tool to add IDs? I ask because today I find many similar errors of different users. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 20:12, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Dear Gymel; what suggestions you have on this topic. Please feel free to post the discussion to any appropriate place. Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 20:24, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

As far as I know LC NAF (because of subtleties in anglo-american cataloging rules) indeed differentiates between Person (Clinton, Bill, 1945-) and their Office (e.g. "United States. President (1993-2001 : Clinton)" and "Arkansas. Governor (1979-1981 : Clinton)". The latter is for "authorship" of all official documents emanating from the office, e.g. when some bill (act of law) was signed/approved, then this was not done by Bill Clinton, the person (or his vice-president or his signing automata or whoever was empowered to do so), but by Bill Clinton, the president. Or rather The President (Bill Clinton)... en:WP has an article en:Presidency of Bill Clinton which may closely correlate to the corporate LC and LAC authority records, therefore (but only in this special case) one should not associate the "President" authority number to the biographical wikidata item. However "Governorship of Arkansas" is integrated into the biography article even in en:WP thus I don't see any restrictions for using them: Main argument in the RfD for P107 (P107) was IMHO that Wikidata does not follow "foreign" categorizations and that means that in general an VIAF "corporate" entity can be a legit match to a Wikidata "instance-of-human" item. Thus I'm not sure wether there is any place in wikidata to declare this usage for wrong (or right). Since the successor rules to AACR2, namely RDA, are currently implemented in several countries I expect these kind of corporate records arising in several other authority files in the future, which means that the practical problem of battling these kinds of associations (if one intends to) would grow. -- Gymel (talk) 23:34, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:15, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying the situation. There are some practical thinks: 1. "corporate" IDs in "personal" items makes sanity checks more harder process. For example discussed item was found during checking items from list Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P244#"Single value" violations. 2. Bots and other data clients can use this information too. Not uniform information will produce errors and unexpected situations. 3. Module:Authority control (Q11640331) shows only one ID ether then multiple claims present. So, please lets avoid adding IDs of another types to person. I think this makes Wikidata more cleaner and easy to use datasource. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 21:16, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Right. But as you see from your recent work on pseudonymous entries multiple values cannot be avoided all the time. And as LCCN, GND and other "real" authority files strive for uniqueness at least in the "regular" cases, and have editorial means to reach this, VIAF just has its algorithms and the speed of convergency is comparatively slow. Therefore multiple values for VIAF will be a permanent phenomenon and Wikidata is an interesting place to store additional glue for technically distinct but logically closely related VIAF clusters. In the long term I thing that the Lua Modules should recognize multiple values and do something meaningful with them. -- Gymel (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

IRC

I actually do not have access to IRC at the moment, though you might find me there under the name of "Sky2042". What is it you need? --Izno (talk) 00:15, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Stop!!!

Hallo Reinhart, auf Wikidata talk:Books task force habe ich dich darauf hingewiesen, dass du alle Informationen durcheinanderwürfelst und dich gebeten, dich erst einmal mit den Eigenschaften vertraut zu machen, bevor du sich rein intuitiv verwendest. Auch auf die Frage: "Wo soll ich was lesen?" habe ich dir klar geantwortet. Wie üblich korrigierst du allerdings nicht deine alten Fehler, sondern stürzt dich mit Verve auf neue. Auch für Zeitschriften gibt es eine Anleitung, die Wikidata:Periodicals task force. Statt die Eigenschaften "Zeitschrift", "Sprache" und "Schlagwort" zu verwenden, hast du ein neues Spielfeld namens "Esperanto periodical" (Q15636092) eröffnet, ordnest ihm Reihen zu, die mal Bücher, mal Zeitschriften sind, die einzelnen Ausgaben bekommen Verlage und Mitarbeiter zugeordnet und lustig geht es weiter wild durch den Publikationsdschungel, häufig auch mit Verwechslungen, so dass unter "Verlagsort" auch gleich der Verlag miteingetragen ist. Wer soll das Aufräumen? Es macht mehr Arbeit, deine Edits zu korrigieren, als die Datensätze neu anzulegen. Daher: Entweder du konzentrierst dich auf ein Thema und loggst dich nur mit einem Account ein oder hör mit der Arbeit ganz auf. Gruß --Kolja21 (talk) 20:20, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Via privata mesaĝo rilate al Rotsaert8000

^{wgArticleId:16714844#artolaborikune}

Saluton Gangleri, pri kio temas precize? Amike, --Michawiki (talk) 20:37, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Michawiki Temas pri helpilo per kiu oni povas facile aldini la mankantajn deklarojn. Vidu unue listo de deklaroj aldonotaj. Vi uzu almenaux tiun linion. Poste Vi povas aldoni naskigxdaton ktp.

El klopodoj (dissenditaj retmesagxe) akiri helpon:

1) Bv. ensaluti al Vikipedio kaj Wikidata.

2) Bv. sekvi la konsilojn a) b) kaj c) cxe https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Rotsaert8000 .

3) Bv. elekti unu aux du kategoriojn el https://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategorio:Esperantistoj_la%C5%AD_landoj kun pli ol kvindek personoj.

4) Bv. elekti Esperanton kiel labora lingvo en Viaj preferoj en Wikidata.

5) En Vikipdio Vi trovos ligojn al Wikidata supre en la pagxo.

6) Bv. kontroli nun pagxo post pagxo se la Wikidata pagxoj enhavas jam la deklaron "estas" "homo" se ne bv. aldoni tiun deklaron kaj aktualigu la pagxon. Pro Via aldono kaj pro la aktualigo Vi nun povas aldoni kromajn gxis nun mankantajn deklarojn kiel sekso kaj se estas menciata(j) naskigxdato kaj mortodato. Kelkfoje "Vikidatuma ero ne trovita." indikas, ke ankoraux ne estas pagxo en Wikidata. Vi povas klaki sur la ligon kaj krei novan (la mankantan) pagxon. Poste Vi povas aldoni "estas" "homo" kpt. Antauxdankon!

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 20:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Kaj por kio mi bezonas tion? Ĉu tiuj deklaroj estas necesaj? --Michawiki (talk) 21:26, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Michawiki Certe ili estas necesaj. Vidu Special:Contributions/לערי ריינהארט|namespace=0&uselang=eo. Mi ne demandas uzi Vian tutan tempon sed iom post iom ni povus trovi aron da helpantoj por la 190 mil pagxoj en e-lingva Vikipedio. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:46, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Mi invitas Vin aligxi al la katekorio Arto labori kune. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 12:16, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Bv. uzi ankaux

importScript( 'User:Ch1902/ancestry.js' );

Sukceson! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 13:58, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

rilate bildoj en eo.Vikipedio kaj en la Komunejo

^{wgArticleId:16714844#komunejo}
Nek la plejparo de la bildoj pri e-rilataj temoj jam estas en la Komunejo nek estas tauxgaj kategorioj por kunligi organizojn al la komunejo. Vidu WhatLinksHere/Q15494038?limit=500&namespace=0&uselang=eo. Kiu povas kunhelpi? Amike לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:03, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Koran dankon por Vi

Mi tre jxojas por legi vian skribajxon!--Gnagyrobi (talk) 12:35, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

@Gnagyrobi nedankinde! Sukceson! Mi longtempe nek partoprenis movadon nek Vikipedion. Mi verkadis (gxis malsanigxo interrompis min) cxe miaj "auctoroj" cxe https://epo.librarything.com/zeitgeist/language/epo (la tradukon de LibraryThing al Esperanto faris Annix; E-grupo trovigxas cxe [4]; la plej grandan kolekton da E-libroj havas LevGalicia, liaj " auxtoroj", liaj etikedoj). Bv. inviti geamikojn diverslingvajn cxi tien. Iom post iom, pasxon post pasxon oni lernos kiamaniere kontribui efike al Vikidatumoj. Amike salutas לערי ריינהארט (talk) 12:52, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Advices

1. You can request a property creator flag at Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Other_rights#Property_creator. However, property creators should not create new properties unless consensus exists -- that is probably 75%+ support. You should wait at least 10 days before creating and shouldn't create properties proposed by yourself (other property creators will do that).
2. Try to request item merging by checking unlinked pages (articles and categories) in eo/yi/ps/tnwp. You can merge two items using MediaWiki:Gadget-Merge.js and request deletion using MediaWiki:Gadget-RequestDeletion.js. Enable them in your preferences.
3. Try to rollback some unneeded edits. Here are places you can find unneeded edits. Also go to Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Other_rights to request a rollbacker flag, but you should rollback something before requesting it.
4. Wikidata:Requests for comment is only used after a long discussion via the other channels. If you want to, for example, ask a question, please use Wikidata:Project chat instead.

--GZWDer (talk) 05:10, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

@GZWDer ^subpages Thanks for the message! And how can I see which of my edits / contributions have been "rollback'ed"?

How can I see what the label of an page I created (and which has been deleted) was? לערי ריינהארט (talk) 07:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

How can I see which eo-label / ^{plural eo-labels} I was adding / changing / ^{plural: have been adding / changing} has / ^{plural: have} been changed? Thanks especially for the answer to the last question in advice. I contacted the chief MW developer about possible misuse and weekness -es in the Special:Watchlist. The summary field in many multiple / consecutive changes in the logs does either not reflect the change or is not shown at language statement level. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 07:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

If your edits has been rollbacked by others, it would be showed like message in user talk page if you turn on the option in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo.

You will soon be able to make user contributions show only page creations. see bugzilla:42026.

--GZWDer (talk) 09:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @GZWDer ! What about the deleted ones you have created? For deleted items there are many places you need to search: logs, contributions (will not be shown), watchlists (will not be shown). If you are lucky and work carefully you may find the titles remembering and searching Special:EditWatchlist/raw your browser bookmarks, saved logs, screen dumps and via other tricks.

BTW: The Mediazille report was "Reported": 2012-11-11 20:17 UTC .לערי ריינהארט (talk) 09:55, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

A patch is merged on March 1.--GZWDer (talk) 10:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Armenisches Esperanto?

Hallo Gangleri, du behauptest, dass das Buch Travels in Esperanto-Land (Q12356614)

a) in der Originalsprache auf Esperanto geschrieben sei und

b) der Originaltitel Ճանապարհորդություն Էսպերանտո երկրում lautet.

Stimmt das? Was die Verschlagwortung betrifft, reicht es, wenn du "Esperanto" einträgst. Dass ein Esperanto-Lehrbuch, das sich mit dem Thema Esperanto beschäftigt, auch die Themen "Esperanto-Kultur", "Esperanto-Bewegung" etc. betrifft, versteht sich von selbst und wird über subclass of (P279) geregelt. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:41, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Habe deinen Hinweis im Wikidata:Project chat gelesen und korrigiere die Titelangabe entsprechend. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Some feedback on your talkpage message

Hi לערי ריינהארט,

I understand your intentions are good. However, please let me explain the experience this message gave me. I got an email, telling me that <some not understandable string of characters> left me a message on Wikidata. I never heard of this person before (and if I did, I probably wouldn't recognize the name), and I haven't been active for a while on Wikidata, so it must be important! Then I get here, and all I see is a very short message that looks like a generic '+1 welcome'. Then reading it more closely, it is telling me to 'identify some appropriate tools' and add a 'babel template'. However, you don't tell me why I would want that (what's in it for me?) or even make a suggestion what templates I might want to add or which tools I could identify (the latter I still don't know). Finally, you could read in your message that I must do these two things to keep using Wikidata. I'm still not sure if that is what you intended or not.

Anyway, again I understand your intentions are good. I just hope you can use this feedback to rephrase your message. Maybe you could even create different character accounts and use the most understandable one based on people's expected character sets (i.e. based on their own username). It might make the experience already much more comfortable - not that I have anything against Hebrew, but for me it's just yibberdiyab and I can't pronounce who's talking to me. A bit more explanation in your message might also be helpful. Not just links, but actual explanation why I would want this. Keep up the undoubtfully good work! (I also posted this on my own talkpage) Effeietsanders . Regards (talk) 17:56, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

I replied at User talk:Effeietsanders. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 18:55, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036) STOP!

All your introductions of DDC Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036) are complete nonsense at least as far as the dozend or so edits are concerned which I have reviewed.

Formally any use of that property has to be accompanied by a qualifier stating the DDC edition used. But most important the property is not intended as a means of classifying Wikidata items but to express correspondences between similar concepts.

• Wednesday (Q128) is an instance of "days" and therefore not to be identified with DDC 529.1 (Chronology -- days: no indication anyway w/r to days of weeks )
• entrepreneur (Q131524) is an occupation and not to be identified with DDC 338.092 dedicated to individual or collective biographies of entrepreneurs
• monarch (Q116) the same - such persons certainly have some relation to "political systems" as such, but nothing more.

Admittedly The Party Journalist (Q25555) is an example for a work where Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036) is used to replicate the classification done by some library for this item, but even from that it would be a huge step to start classifying any wikidata item.

Probably we'll need a bot request to revert the havoc you created since you detected Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036) as a new playing ground. -- Gymel (talk) 16:03, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

The German label for poetics (poetics (Q835023)) is Poetik which is found at GND ID (P227) 4046449-0 . There the values for Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036) are 801.93 and 808.1 .

The values you mention have been added according to the same logic. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 16:57, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Gymel Is a bot the « ULTIMA RATIO » of Wikidata quality management? לערי ריינהארט (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

You mean you have copied the numbers found in the GND display? "According to the same logic" would at least require to inspect the RDF display of the GND record 4046449-0. There is stated

<gndo:relatedDdcWithDegreeOfDeterminacy3 rdf:resource="http://d-nb.info/ddc/class/801.93"/> <gndo:relatedDdcWithDegreeOfDeterminacy2 rdf:resource="http://d-nb.info/ddc/class/808.1"/>

And the meaning of the predicates is explained at

• http://d-nb.info/standards/elementset/gnd#relatedDdcWithDegreeOfDeterminacy2 :

"The connotation scope of the GND entity is identical or nearly identical to the connotation scope of a topic that is logically part of the class but is less extensive in scope than the concept represented by the class number."

• http://d-nb.info/standards/elementset/gnd#relatedDdcWithDegreeOfDeterminacy3 :

"The connotation scope of the GND entity is identical or nearly identical to the connotation scope of a topic that approximates the whole of the assigned DDC class. According to DDC terms, topics that are nearly coextensive with the full meaning of a class or cover more than half of the content of the class approximate the whole of the DDC class."

I would propose to rely on GND usage of DDC classes for relative (P1038) only in cases of

• http://d-nb.info/standards/elementset/gnd#relatedDdcWithDegreeOfDeterminacy4

"The connotation scope of the GND entity is identical to the connotation scope of the topic emphasized in the DDC class heading" -- Gymel (talk) 21:44, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @Gymel for the feedback. The suggestion to prioritize values of class relatedDdcWithDegreeOfDeterminacy4 makes much sense. Unfortunatelly I do not have the tools to scan this information. Maybe it will be possible in the future to change all other values to "Deprecated rank". This should avoid that such values (other then Determinacy4) are reimported again.

I have seen that the values are not unique, one DDC value may apear at many WD items. In this case the most important WD item should have the highest available rank.

In order to see what value has been verified by a human I suggest that another person (not a bot) then the person adding the value should add the source "imported from GND" (or something similar).

Regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 22:17, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Since your additions are "intellectual" and based on the classification data contained in the GND records You should simply execute one additional click on "RDF/XML-Repräsentation dieses Datensatzes" on the right hand side of the regular GND display to access the data in the form quoted above. -- Gymel (talk) 23:22, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

At anagram (Q122981) it worked. Sometimes I have problems with the linkifications of the Authority control gadget. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 23:31, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Norrøn mytologi (d:Q128285)

^{Wikidata:Project chat#Norse_mythology}
You added the message on Norwegian discussion page. It's not clearly what the question is, but I have done a lot of the pages of mythology on Wikipedia Bokmål. I can verify that the template no:template:Norrøn mytologi is as good as it can be at this time (apart from the one red link). You can contact me any time with direct question related to this topic; best changes to meet me are on my own discussion page on Wikipedia Bokmål. --Finn Bjørklid (talk) 08:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @Finn Bjørklid! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 08:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Messi → MESSI?

Why the surname with a capital letters[5]? --Stryn (talk) 14:24, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

@Stryn are you familiar with Esperanto culture? eo.Wikipedia started with traditional pagenames for persons. Later [6] because of inter wiki links they changed the page titles but used capitalization of family names in the articles (mass renaming); see eo:Jimbo. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Hah, not at all, I have not any clue about Esperanto culture :P That's interesting anyway, thanks for your answer. --Stryn (talk) 14:49, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

@Stryn updated the first comment during edit conflict. ;-) לערי ריינהארט (talk) 15:01, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Medical conditions of norse deities

Hi Gangleri, I agree with the necessity to denote central attributes especially for mythic figures where they are characterizing. You might try to assign medical condition (P1050) ("disease or physical ailment affecting an individual [human or animal]" - the extension to fictional characters would have to be discussed on the talk page I think) with blindness (Q10874) as given in the example on the talk page. And maybe for paralympic usage there already exist items for one-armedness or what other impairments you need. -- Gymel (talk) 10:32, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Babel

Please edit your babel from roa-rup to rup since roa-rup is not a supported language code by Wikidata. Thanks. --Pasleim (talk) 17:38, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done

Please edit your babel from zh-yue to yue since zh-yue is not a supported language code by Wikidata. Thanks. --Pasleim (talk) 17:45, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done

@Pasleim can you please modify MediaWiki:Gadget-labelLister.js that way that selecting no the selection should change automatically to nb (and probably that when selecting dk the selection should change automatically to da). I get trapped every time with this misalignment when changing aliases, labels and / or descriptions for nb. Thanks in advance! gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 18:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I guess I can't do that because I'm totally unfamiliar with scripting gadgets. But I started a request on MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-labelLister.js --Pasleim (talk) 19:27, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @Pasleim! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 19:31, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

military personnel (Q15983656)

Hi, I randomly came across the above item and I wondered what, if any, is the difference between that item and military personnel (Q47064). I know it is tagged with said to be the same as (P460) on both items, but if they are the same, shouldn't there be only one item representing the same concept? Thanks. —Wylve (talk) 09:44, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

@Wylve See tree military personnel (Q15983656)    subclass of (P279). I created that item end of March

WLH for military personnel (Q47064)    which has some WMF article links. I found that page a half of hour later.

I have both pages on my "radar" verifying occupations and professions. Do you have an urgent need to merge them?

You say that you found it "randomly". No "real business" is randomly, only Wikidata is. You may comment on my proposal at Property proposal/Generic#context. Regards gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 10:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

No, I'm not in the rush to merge the two items, but it's just kind of bothering me when there are two items for the same entity. —Wylve (talk) 15:06, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

+1. We told you more than one time: Please do not create your own WD systematic! And no, we are not interested in looking at your proposals or comments on other pages. We are only interested that at least in the cases other user tell you, that you have made a mess, you do the clean up. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Re: Welcome + P1036

Thank you very much indeed! --Silvia Girometti (talk) 19:24, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Q'

I'm trying to figure out what you were trying to do. Was it not working before? It seemed to be (to me at least). πr² (t • c) 17:53, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Thái Nhi (talk) 16:41, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Language-items and labels

Dutch labels (and maybe others) about languages have capitals in them. Please don't change that. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 14:18, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

@Sjoerddebruin @GerardM I have seen dozens of nd Dutch labels changed by GerardM while editing some ten thousand items. Sjoerddebruin are you a Dutch lingvist? Please see also Wikidata:Project_chat#manual_de-capitalization_of_labels before you continue mas reverting. Thanks! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:33, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

The labels that GerardM changed, were those about languages? I don't think so. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 14:39, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

@Sjoerddebruin I looked at OmegaWiki:DefinedMeaning:5684 - Dutch . You are right Nederlands is starting with a capital. Sorry for the trouble. I plan to make a tree using template:Q'. Wikidata:Languages_task_force|uselang=nl does not offer language support. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 15:15, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

@Sjoerddebruin Please note the reasonator links at user:Gangleri/sandbox/index/languages|uselang=nl #items. They use uselang=nl. Can you please help reverting the de-capitalization for nl?

I noticed that uselang=af #items should be reverted as well, possibly some other Dutch descendant languages and / or dialects as well.

Can you please identify some af etc. helpers and kindly ask them to add the proper labels? Thanks in advance gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 16:53, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Help me

Hi לערי ריינהארט I am request you for some help. I can not edit some link as ne:दधिचि to en:Dadhichi, ne:भेडा to en:Sheep etc please help me.--राम प्रसाद जोशी (talk) 10:28, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

@दधिचि I answered at https://ne.wikipedia.org/?curid=58457#a_usefull_tool Good luck! gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 10:55, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, לערי ריינהארט!

Hi, לערי ריינהארט! Thank you very much! I take the advantage to tell you that Wikimedia México will be the guest of about 1000-2000 international Wikipedians in July 2015 during Wikimania of that year. Please consider the possibility of visiting us in Mexico City! Also, we are trying to organize an Edit-a-thon about the Jewish community in Mexico (mainly in Mexico City): I'll tell you more about it as soon as steps are made. Best regards from Mexico City! --Correogsk or Gustavo (Eritrocito or Editocito or Heme aquí) 19:59, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Bug in the bot

Hi, is there a way to solve this ? I don't feel like edit warring against a bot. Pluto2012 (talk) 10:55, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P425

the master plan for a Hundertwasser type database; please read about Friedensreich Hundertwasser (Q151836)

Please, take a look at that page. I have reverted some of your edits (like this one]) because of it. Regards, Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 13:01, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @Andreasmperu for the https://www.wikidata.org/?diff=137789425&oldid=123860673#top link.

profession (Q28640) should inherit via subclass of (P279) from geologist (Q520549)

professio should not be repeated at each item belonging to http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/tree.html?lang=en&q=Q520549&rp=279&method=d3&live .

Maybe the constraint statement is wrong. I will email you Regards gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 14:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Paris

Stop adding fantasy twin cities: « Seule Paris est digne de Rome ; seule Rome est digne de Paris »

Others are only parterships.

Gonioul (talk) 00:40, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

@Gonioul : You are right. Now I have read the text at de:Paris#Städtepartnerschaften. Unfortunately this text is not computer readable and a dozen of the mentioned cities in many dozen of languages do not show the difference. This is not the only issue I encountered so far.

I was thinking about a future qualifier "false positive" to mark such situations. If we delete the relations now they might be added next day, next week, at any time.

There is no usable template for twin places. Neither at enwiki nor at other languages. The enwiki does not handle disambiguations and qualifier values.

I used en de, fr, hu, ru and some other languages so far. I did not verify "all" linked languages. Any error at any languages makes a mess. Regards gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 01:09, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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Quelle

???? Wenn du ein Spielzeug brauchst, wieso kaufst du dir nicht eine Packung Lego? Meinst du nicht auch, dass das Spielen mit Wikidata eine Überforderung darstellt und mehr Schaden als Nutzen bringt? Wieviele deiner 114343 Edits sind hinterfragungswürdig?? 50% ?? --Hubertl (talk) 21:29, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

• Ich kam hierher, um in etwa das Gleiche zu sagen - hier, hier, hier, hier und hier hast du Städtepartnerschaften eingetragen, die ,leicht überprüfbar, nicht existieren (und das waren nur die Städte, die mir spontan in meiner Umgebung eingefallen sind :( ). Leider erweckt das auf mich den Eindruck, als würdest du hier sehr schlampig vorgehen, was letztendlich dazu führt, dass du in Wikidata zwar viele Informationen einbringst, durch die Schlampigkeit aber auch leider bewirkst, dass man sich auf keine Informationen aus Wikidata mehr verlassen kann. --Mineo (talk) 21:14, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

@Mineo Die Beziehung ist symmetrisch. Wikidata ist nicht die deutschsprachige Wikipedia. Ich suche grundätzlich in vielen sprechen vorwiegend en, fr, es, hu, he usw. Bist Du in skype erreichbar? Bitte versuche mich unter skype:irelgnag zu erreichen. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

@Mineo Zu [7] siehe Shiraz#Twin towns – sister cities. Bin gelehentlich auch im irc #wikipedia-de. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:54, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

* Ich habe mal den Artikel über Shiraz in der englischen Wikipedia angepasst - da gab es wohl mal Bestrebungen, die dann aber etwas im Sande verlaufen sind (siehe z. B. hier). Falls deine Bearbeitungen auf Informationen aus verschiedensprachigen Wikipedien basieren, wäre es natürlich schön, wenn du dies direkt als Referenz an die Aussage anfügen könntest. Das würde das Nachvollziehen (und Aufräumen hinterher) sehr erleichtern. --Mineo (talk) 10:22, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

@Mineo Im taz-Artiel steht "der Stadtrat legt die Beziehung auf Eis" das ist kein Abbruch. Der Fairness halber sollte man die Partnerschaft zumindestens mit "qualifier" in beiden Seiten stehen lassen. Zur "großen Politik" empfehle ich den Artikel über „Irans Schindler“ de:Abdol-Hossein Sardari zu lesen. Anfang des Jahres hatte ich nach zwei Monaten Wartezeit das Buch ISBN 9780752463704 über sein Leben erhalten.
Zu den Quelenangaben wünsche ich mir ein "drag and drop" zwischen den Wikipedias und Wikidata, welches ich wohl nicht mehr erleben werde. Es gibt so viele Dinge, über die man bzgl. WD sprechen könnte das sich ein Schreiben nicht mehr lohnt. Gruß aus München gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 12:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Werde versuchen im regelmäßig bei #kavehoyz zu sein. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 12:47, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

* Die Formulierungen hier ("den selbstverständlichen vorläufigen Verzicht auf eine Städtepartnerschaft,", hier ("Gleichzeitig wurde deutlich gesagt, dass es keine weiteren Aktivitäten hin zu einer Städtepartnerschaft geben wird,") und hier ("Seit fünf Jahren existiert eine offene und vorsichtige Städte-freundschaft zwischen den beiden UNESCO-Kulturstädten Shirâz im Iran und Weimar in Thüringen: Eine Freundschaft, die jenseits offizieller Städtepartnerschafts-Regularien auf einem Freundschafts-Memorandum beruht") deuten eher darauf hin, dass es Bemühungen um eine echte Städtepartnerschaft gab, die aber zur Freundschaft degradiert wurde, aus Marketinggründen aber auch gern mal Partnerschaft genannt wird. Im Zweifelsfall würde ich einfach mal auf der Diskussionsseite in der deutschen Wikipedia nachfragen, ob da jemand genaueres weiß. --Mineo (talk) 13:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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Partnerstädte Berlin

Ich habe gesehen, dass du Bern (Q70) und Amasya (Q170532) als Partnerstädte von Berlin (Q64) eingetragen hast. Ich sehe, dass die Informationen vermutlich aus der Wikipedia stammen (z.B. Bern), aber trotzdem sind die sehr wahrscheinlich einfach falsch. Gerade Bern ist dafür bekannt, keine Städtepartnerschaften einzugehen (Quelle: de:Bern#Städtepartnerschaften deutsche Wikipedia). Im Falle von Bern ist der Eintrag sogar in der russischen Wikipedia seit 2011 als "citation needed" gekennzeichnet. Ich vermute, dass deine Eintragungen mit Skript-Unterstützung erfolgt sind. Kannst du dann eventuell die entsprechende Wikipedia-Seite (imported from) verlinken? Dann könnte man die Fehler in den jeweiligen Wikipedias schneller finden bzw. zweifelhafte Fakten zumindest kennzeichnen. --Felix.Schwarz (talk) 13:59, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

@ Felix.Schwarz Zu Berlin gibt es folgende Einträge:http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/autolist.html?q=string[1036:"2--43155"] AND claim[190] . Leider gibt es keine direkte Methode die "historischen" Gebilde mittels eines first level statements zu kennzeichnen. Der Gegensatz wäre aktuelle offizielle administrative Einheit (nach der letzten Gebietsreform). Durch die Vielfalt der Sprachen sind Artikel nur in einzelnen Sprachen verfügbar. Dies gilt selbstverständlich auch für Stadteile von Budapest, Bukarest, Prag, Moskau usw. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 15:12, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Dortmund

Hi לערי ריינהארט, on July 5th you have created the following property in the Wikidata article "Dortmund": "twin city: Criciúma". Please specify the sources you have in support of your claim or withdraw. The claim seems to be doubtful. Thank you for your support! Best wishes, --Tremonist (talk) 13:31, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

@Tremonist Does it require special intelligence to find es:Dortmund#Ciudades_hermanadas and to link properly to Criciúma (Q1439157) and Dortmund (Q1295)? לערי ריינהארט (talk) 16:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi לערי ריינהארט, according to the Dortmund city administration, Criciúma is not a twin city. I thus had to remove the respective claims from Spanish-language Wikipedia and from Wikidata as well. It is unclear what caused the misunderstanding, but we are trying to find out. Best wishes, --Tremonist (talk) 12:53, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @Tremonist for the investigation! "twin city" is a cross language / cross wiki relation. For some regions as South America, Latin America, Indonesia, Hungary etc. the only source are es, id, hu. Some examples about id "Kota kembar": id:Kota Ambon#Kota_kembar, id:Kota Bandar Lampung#Kota_Kembar, id:Kota Makassar#Kota_kembar, id:Kota Batam#Kota_kembar, id:Kota Bengkulu#Kota_kembar, id:Kota Surakarta#Kota_kembar. This is why the information needs to be cross checked by "local" wikipedians. Many statements need to be verified, corrected by adding qualifiers. There are "false positives" which might be added again and again. It happens that linking from various languages conflicts about Polish locations (some are using "Glmina" and some do not). gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 13:23, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Wrong twin cities

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Dieser Edit

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q131072&diff=97890502&oldid=91747364 versieht das Objekt mit einer deutschen Beschreibung. Ich weiß nicht welche Sprache das ist, aber auf keinen Fall ist es Deutsch. Vielleicht kannst du es bei der richtigen Sprache sinbauen.--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 11:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

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Article "Do not buy Russian goods!"

Hello! Could you translate an article about boycott of Russian goods in Ukraine [8] for the German Wikipedia? Thanks for the help. --Trydence (talk) 19:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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Dupes

Hi there,

are resistance fighter (Q1397808) and resistance fighter (Q15980161) not dupes. Could you explain the difference? Thanks --Nachcommonsverschieber (talk) 11:34, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

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Dewey table notation

Hi, as a librarian I find it great to see the addition of Dewey Decimal Classification (P1036). But I'm a bit puzzled about this notation. Table numbers are normally express using an inital "T", like so: "T2--4833". This is the case in the authoritative WebDewey, which unfortunately isn't open, but you can see the same notation in e.g. GND. Btw. I'm also curious what sources you use for the numbers, and if you have a tool that simplifies the process of adding the numbers. Danmichaelo (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, just noticed that dewey.info (whenever it's not down) uses the notation without initial "T", so I assume you have it from there? If you're aware of any Wikidata discussions on what notation to use, please let me know. I'll try to do some research myself also. Danmichaelo (talk) 16:18, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

... and then I found Property_talk:P1036#constraint_reports, sorry for not checking that discussion page first :) Danmichaelo (talk) 16:21, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Welcome message

Hi greetings, I didn't got any message in my talk page. But I created the talk page. So I haven't any messages in my talk page. If you like kindly please leave a welcome message in it. --Path slopu (talk) 02:22, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Translation request

Hello.

Can you translate and upload en:Mountains of Azerbaijan, en:National Library of Azerbaijan, en:National Assembly of Azerbaijan, en:Central Bank of Azerbaijan, en:Constitution of Azerbaijan and en:Azerbaijani Soviet Encyclopedia in Hebrew Wikipedia and Esperanto Wikipedia?

They don't need to be long.

Yours sincerely, Matricatria (talk) 13:41, 30 May 2019 (UTC)