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Incorrect Link RotEdit

I'm not sure why you deprecated the DOI on Barringer Medal citation for Michael R. Dence (Q101634288). It's a working DOI, so that deprecation seems unfounded. Trilotat (talk) 07:27, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Are you about this edit? Bot did not change deprecation rank. It just made the value upper cased. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 15:49, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Non-capturing regex group (?:)Edit

Hi Ivan,

At Wikidata:Property_proposal/URL_match_pattern, we are trying to figure out which would be sensible default pattern for replacement.

At Property_talk:P973, this would be probably \2, but, if Krbot supports non-capturing regex groups, we could use "\1".

this tries to test it with that url. Will Krbot convert it? It seems to be busy with other things in the meantime.

Wikidata:Property_proposal/URL_match_pattern could probably be useful for Krbot as well. used by (P1535) could qualify the ones used by Krbot. --- Jura 07:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

PCRE v8.39 is used by KrBot. Please see the library documentation for supported syntax. As I understand general idea is to replace {{Autofix}} to properties. Autofix template currently supports several different use cases. Do you have idea how to describe all of them using properties? — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 16:03, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Connection to other wikisEdit

Hey! Can you move Q9212417 to Q8564503 ?

The topic is the same: en.: Category:Jazz clubs

it.: Categoria:Locali jazz

The move will allow the connection to other wikis.

Thanks! --CoolJazz5 (talk) 10:59, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@CoolJazz5 I've done this. In future, please specify links to the pages that you write about. This greatly simplifies execution of your request. Michgrig (talk) 22:41, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Michgrig Ok, thanks!

Question about the edits made by the botEdit

Why did the bot edit the two entries Q87402631 and Q104417514? It is true that the announcements that the bot moved were displayed with a warning. But that doesn't mean they're wrong too. --Gymnicus (talk) 10:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

As I noticed just after resetting, there were no warnings at all. For this reason, the edits of the bot make even less sense from my point of view. --Gymnicus (talk) 10:59, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
It is very common mistake then person-specific property is set for items that describes person groups. See this edit as example. Bot fixes such cases. It is logically incorrect to use properties like country of citizenship (P27), sex or gender (P21) for human groups. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 16:21, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
I don't see it as easy as you do. For the property country of citizenship (P27) I would go with you. But I can't understand that with the property occupation (P106). There is also an example with the data object Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff (Q12920) where your bot does not remove this property and this statement was added on November 22, 2020. Then why does he remove it from the examples I mentioned? --Gymnicus (talk) 10:28, 6 January 2021 (UTC)


Could you make your bot:

  • Add P750 > Q1486288 to items with P2725
  • Add P750 > Q1052025 to items with P5944
  • Add P750 > Q1052025 to items with P5971
  • Add P750 > Q1052025 to items with P5999
  • Add P750 > Q22905933 to items with P7294
  • Add P750 > Q135288 to items with P5885

--Trade (talk) 21:55, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add statements like:
property constraint (P2302)
  item requires statement constraint (Q21503247)
property (P2306) distributed by (P750)
item of property constraint (P2305) PlayStation Store (Q1052025)
constraint status (P2316) mandatory constraint (Q21502408)
0 references
add reference

add value
Bot fixes such statements automatically. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 16:49, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Fenestella troublesEdit

There are two different genera named Fenestella, namely an animal one (Q20975616) and a fungus one (Q17317929). Despite the names, they are completely different. So should their corresponding article items be, and their category items (Q9651255 and Q18283983, respectively) be. However, by name confusion, there has been mistakes, like linking the Swedish fungus article to the Commons category for the animals. Unhappily, these mistakes also seem to have caused confusion in wikidata.

I do not understand why your robot talks about a "redirect from Q20975616 to Q17317929" in the summary of this edit, but I know that this edit, and others mentioned in the summary details, have contributed to the confusion. I'll revert these edits, correct what I can, and add further "different from" properties to the central items (the four enumerated supra). I hope that this will lessen the risks for this particular confusion in the future. Best regards, JoergenB (talk) 20:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

I think different from (P1889) should be enough. Thank you for your job! — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 17:17, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Ανδρέας (Greek given name) abusively mutated to Slavic equivalent(?) АнджейEdit

Problem here may be caused by one or more edits in Q14941830... To correct it manually is hard: got an error message: 'Item Q87263878 already has label "Ανδρέας" associated with language code el, using the same description text.' Perhaps a bot can be more helpful.

Happy New Year, Ivan A. Krestinin, Klaas `Z4␟` V:  11:31, 1 January 2021 (UTC) ( on behalf of NameProjectMembers & notifiers)

Looks like everything was fixed already. Happy New Year! — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 17:21, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Protection of user pageEdit

Hi! As suggested here, I've raised the protection level of your user page to administrators, in order to avoid accidental creations by registered users. If you want to create the page in the future, you can always make a request to WD:AN. Best regards and happy 2021! --Epìdosis 14:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Good, thank you! Happy new year! — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 17:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Error in BnF correctionEdit


The correction made here is wrong, the correct id is 12746940n.

When it starts with FRBNF, the last character is always false and must be recalculated.

eru [Talk] [french wiki] 17:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

What did KrBot do?Edit

Hi Ivan, ich don't get the reason of this change of your bot. As far as I see, the bot didn't change anything :-)

and of course - a happy new year. greetings from Germany --Z thomas (talk) 13:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Thomas, bot removed non-printable symbols at the end of name. Happy new year! — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 17:53, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. I assumed something like that. Greetings --Z thomas (talk) 18:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi, could you also add non-breaking spaces (\u202F and \u00A0) and multiple spaces (\s{2,} -> " ") to your script, please? Recently there was not very successful import from DACS (ping @Hannolans:), containing such spaces in en/nl labels. --Lockal (talk) 16:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
AI, wasn't aware of this, this was a download from the unmatched mix n match that I uploaded with openrefine. Would be great if the bot can repair this. Double spaces is also very useful. --Hannolans (talk) 22:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Murder -> HomicideEdit


Could you check the discussion at Property_talk:P1196#Allow_assassination? and, unless there is a good reason that I and others have so far managed to overlook, kindly ask your bot to stop edit-warring? Best, --Matthias Winkelmann (talk) 19:58, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Are you about this edit? Please remove corresponding {{Autofix}} rule from Property talk:P1196 page if the rule is inapplicable for some cases. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Edits made based on a wrong constraints on MUBI IDEdit

Hey, Trade added two item requires statement constraint (Q21503247) on MUBI film ID (P7299) that weren't right since MUBI has ID for many films that are not on MUBI. They are basically there to show up in search and then suggest similar titles for potential viewers. Your bot added is adding statements based on these constraints. Could you undo them? thanks, Máté (talk) 05:18, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Seconding this. Plesae undo these edits. Trivialist (talk) 18:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Hi!   DoneIvan A. Krestinin (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Máté (talk) 08:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Bot adding of distributed by (P750)Edit

Hi! I have notice that you have added a number of distributed by (P750) based on identifiers on items. First of all I have not found any bot request for this work. This is needed for an approval for a new task. For music items it's not correct to add Spotify (Q689141), Tidal (Q19711013), Deezer (Q602243), etc as distributers. That is like saying ham (Q170486) is distributed by (P750) Walmart (Q483551). Within the music industry, music distribution is the way that the music industry makes recorded music available to consumers. This is often done by a record label. So, please remove the added items on music related pages and create a bot request for this work. --Premeditated (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Wait, i though we followed the same model with music releases as we do with video games and film? --Trade (talk) 15:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
What do you mean? Like Rocky IV (Q387638) is distributed by (P750) Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (Q179200), not Netflix (Q907311) or Apple TV+ (Q62446736) (just examples) because they are available on those sites. For games I guess there is more of a publishers type of distribution, but I don't know much about how that workes for games. --Premeditated (talk) 09:02, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
The theatrical and home media video version of Rocky IV (Q387638) are distributed by (P750) Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (Q179200) while the video on demand (Q723685) version are distributed by (P750) Netflix (Q907311) (in lieu of being distributed on Netflix' video-on-demand service)
'For games I guess there is more of a publishers type of distribution, but I don't know much about how that workes for games' A publisher are the one who publishes the game. A distributor is the website that the game download are being sold on tho sometimes there are exceptions for physical releases and streaming platforms. @Premeditated: --Trade (talk) 12:59, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
@Trade: I think you are mixing distribution format (P437) for distributed by (P750). Like The Beatles (Q3295515) has distribution format (P437)music streaming (Q15982450). --Premeditated (talk) 13:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

I corrected my examples. So, why do you think that listing music streaming platforms are outside the scope of distributed by (P750)? @Premeditated:--Trade (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

@Trade: Sorry for late response. I think that it should be made a new property named "distribution platform", that could be used for all of those platforms like Steam (Q337535), Spotify (Q689141), Microsoft Store (Q135288), etc. Instead for cluttering distributed by (P750). - Premeditated (talk) 12:22, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

KrBot malfunction at Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P8988Edit

Hello, your bot failed to detect any violations at Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P8988, which is improbable. Please could you look at what is wrong? Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 15:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Looks like everything is fine with the page now. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 22:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

KrBot malfunction at Wikidata:Database reports/identical birth and death datesEdit

Hello, some entries Wikidata:Database reports/identical birth and death dates were fixed some days ago but not removed, could you have a look? Some examples:

Thank you! --Emu (talk) 21:40, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Now all the items are removed. Maybe somebody fix the items. Or maybe some caching issue... — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 22:43, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

KrBot2 sleepingEdit

Hello Ivan! KrBot2 he fell asleep. Please wake me up! :) Thanks Palotabarát (talk) 00:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi! The latest JSON dumps on https://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/wikidata/ are corrupted. Its have very small size (~200 Mb instead of ~86 Gb) and invalid JSON structure. I added check for dump size. This should help. It is good to describe the issue in some Wikimedia issue tracker. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 22:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Ah, I get it. Now I know where the dump is, which gives the data. Thanks for the reply! Palotabarát (talk) 00:15, 15 February 2021 (UTC)