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Bruno Segre Edit
Today I heard in a press review that some Italian newspaper mistakenly announced the death of Bruno Segre (Q3645926): Italian lawyer, journalist and politician (1918-) whilst in fact it was the younger homonym Bruno Segre (Q95227239): Italian historian and philosopher (1930-2023) who died (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20230825090834/https://metronews.it/2023/08/22/morto-a-104-anni-bruno-segre-avvocato-giornalista-ed-ex-partigiano/ as an example of the wrong death announce and https://www.quotidianopiemontese.it/2023/08/22/morto-bruno-segre-lex-partigiano-aveva-104-anni/ about the mistake). Afterwards, looking at the GND of the second one, https://d-nb.info/gnd/1053951019, I'm a bit perplexed by "Widerstandskämpfer" (partigiano), because 1) he was only 15 in 1945 when WWII ended 2) LC (the only cited source) doesn't report this info 3) the Italian articles announcing correctly his death don't mention his being a partigiano - I checked all the available ones. Could you have a look? Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Two of Johann Ernst von Schaffgotschs Edit
Thanks for revisions of merges (they are needed!), but still I have some doubts about your conclusions (Causa Johann Ernst Graf von Schaffgotsch (Q94802807) and Johann Ernst Anton Graf von Schaffgotsch (Q26254995): You stated "active 1674; his namesake was born eleven years later", which is suspicious, but in this era can occure this measure of uncertainty. Also, we need to notice some important conditions: Both Johann Ernsts have unique ID Deutsche Biographie, but both of them links to the same Familienartikel in NDB (S. 536 in Familienartikel (Schaffgotsch)[1] or [2])
→Johann Ernst Anton (1685–1747, s. Biogr. Lex. Böhmen) als Oberstburggraf von Prag.
And article in deutsch Wikipedia (and Czech Wikipedia as well) about Burggraf (with expected date of birth 1685) stated, that his date of birth is 1675 (=one year difference!). Date of birth 1674 is stated only in CERL and it stated only source, "NDB/ADB-online" (and we are at the begining). Colleagues from CERL have nothing new. It appears (and apperad in 2022) to me as the same person. marv1N (talk) 20:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi marv1N, thanks for the review. I was undecided at first but like you've said both persons are mentioned in the same article (NDB 22): "Aus der Hauptlinie erlangte Johann Ernst 1674 den böhm. Freiherren- und 1681 den böhm. Grafenstand." That is precise information and a clear distinction. Even if Johann Ernst Anton was born as early as 1675, it still remains after Johann Ernst has been ennobled. In 1675 Johann Ernst was already an adult. He is according to NDB one generation older. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:55, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, now I see, you are rigt! He should be that one mentioned in Czech Wikipedie "Schaffgotschové" (House of Schaffgotsch (Q337831)) ("Zakladatelem pozemkového vlastnictví v Českém království byl Jan Arnošt (1623–1695), který již v roce 1649 koupil..."). According to Wikipedia article, the younger one is cousin of the older (=brother of Wilhelm, Freiherr von Schaffgotsch (Q108927159)?), but at this moment I have no other source. marv1N (talk) 06:15, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
Thomas Litt Edit
Hi! https://relbib.de/Search/Results?lookfor=1132667534&Type=GND is a misuse of the GND belonging to Thomas Litt (Q112543401); the work is by Thomas Litt (Q122250941). Thanks! --Epìdosis 18:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
- Good to know. I've created GND 1301843601 for the theologian. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Michael Schiller Edit
Hallo Kolja,
Michael Schiller (Q122382249) (PVC-Additive) wurde laut Wikipedia 1959 geboren. Michael Schiller (Q112423484) (aus GND) mit Geburtsdatum 1956 mischt meiner Vermutung nach ihn (Fraunhofer-Institut für Fabrikbetrieb und -automatisierung IFF) dazu.
Fehlermeldung oder selber lösen?-- U. M. Owen (talk) 08:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Danke für den Tipp. Die beiden Datenobjekte habe ich zusammengeführt. Sie wurden ursprünglich für den Chemiker angelegt ("laut Wikipedia 1959 geboren"; vermutlich korrekt, aber unbelegt). GND und NUKAT gehören zu dem von dir erwähnten Diplom-Ingenieur Michael Schiller (Q122415957), von dem wiederum NKČR-AUT das Geburtsjahr 1956 übernommen hat. Den von der DNB falsch verknüpften Titel habe ich gemeldet. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
- Danke fürs Lösen.--U. M. Owen (talk) 18:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Daniel Kerameus Edit
During my PhD studies I have found this teacher, Daniēl Kerameus (Q16326951); his GND (https://d-nb.info/gnd/102376743) places him in 20th-21st century, but he died in 1801. Could you fix? Thanks as always, --Epìdosis 09:14, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Luigi Augusto Cervetto Edit
Hi! https://d-nb.info/gnd/1055240217 has 1855 with no source, but the best source https://www.aib.it/aib/editoria/dbbi20/cervetto.htm has 1854. Thanks! --Epìdosis 08:09, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done Luigi Augusto Cervetto (Q90043463): Italian librarian and local historian (1854-1923). Thanks for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Giuseppe Spada Edit
Hi! Giuseppe Spada (Q76700838) is basically the only author "Giuseppe Spada" somehow known, so I have added https://d-nb.info/gnd/1157636187, but it is empty and I cannot find anything connected to it through Beacon. Could you check that it represents this historian, and enrich it if possible to make it clearer? Thanks! --Epìdosis 08:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
- Done The authority file matches. GND 1157636187 (DE-7) was created for Storia della rivoluzione di Roma ... There is also a Giuseppe Nicola Spada (GND 1190119242) relevant to Wikidata: Giuseppe Nicola Spada (Q122709182). --Kolja21 (talk) 22:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Giuseppe Carlotti Edit
This https://d-nb.info/gnd/1284962199 seems to be a third person, with respect to the two Giuseppe Carlotti we presently have in Wikidata; but I find nothing through Beacon, so I remain unsure. Could you have a look? Thanks as always, --Epìdosis 10:41, 24 September 2023 (UTC) P.S. this Sunday in some hours of work I managed to empty Property talk:P227/human/wanted/import/from VIAF :) --Epìdosis 16:22, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Impressive. Great work! I've added two Giuseppe Carlottis:
- new: Giuseppe Carlotti (Q122802399): Italian theologian (1634-)
- Giuseppe Carlotti (Q109686456): Italian philosopher (1886-1971)
- new: Giuseppe Carlotti (Q122802431): no description = GND 1284962199 created by Bavarian State Library (Q256507); no publication linked
- Giuseppe Carlotti (Q3770255): Italian writer (1974-)
- --Kolja21 (talk) 17:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Claudia Crocco Edit
Claudia Crocco (Q112044381): Italian philologist (1987-) and Claudia Crocco (Q55232351): Italian linguist (1975-) are easy to confuse; https://d-nb.info/gnd/1076496512 is about the philologist, but the publication Towards a New Standard is linguistic and in fact is by the linguist (see her ResearchGate). I will fix SBN soon. --Epìdosis 20:00, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Martin Jan Mulder Edit
hello Kolja21,
Please see Helmert Richard Mulder (Q21545356): Dutch artist and Martin Jan Mulder (Q77084742): university teacher at Leiden University. And GND 1069229628 and GND 1053261373 (VIAF 32018361). I think kind of mixed up. Can you help. Geagea (talk) 18:51, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Geagea, GND and NTA were correct. All other identifiers are belonging to "Martin Jan" instead of "Helmert". (VIAF was misleaded by Wikidata started with an edit by Reinheitsgebot, 5 September 2022.) --Kolja21 (talk) 20:01, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Jüngste Sammler aus "Schoenberg Database of Manuscripts" Edit
Hallo Kolja,
könntest du dir vielleicht die Items von Rosemccandless (talk • contribs • logs) anschauen? Sind sie besser allesamt zu löschen?
V.g., U. M. Owen (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Einträge mit der Quellenangabe Schoenberg Database of Manuscripts name ID (P9756) sind mir schon öfters als problematisch aufgefallen. Im Fall von "William Lymnor of Sharrington" (Q122873544) findet sich beispielsweise der Hinweis: "Added by Rose A. McCandless on 2023-09-28". Der Warnhinweises ("This Name has not yet been reviewed and may not conform to our data standards") ist eindeutig. Auf dieser Grundlage sollte kein item in Wikidata erstellt werden. Falls der betreffende User keine Quellen nachreicht, muss man die Datenobjekte in der Tat löschen. Kolja21 (talk) 20:29, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Carlo Manunza Edit
Carlo Manunza (Q113801215) is a theologian; his GND https://d-nb.info/gnd/1028133499 has economy as his field of activity (no source cited), which seems a mistake, as none of his publications is economical (https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-ricerca-avanzata?item%3A5032%3ABID=NAPV120767). Could you maybe edit it? Thanks, --Epìdosis 19:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Import: "Studienfach" (GND) => "field of activity" (WD). Strange but maybe he once took a course in economics. No titles of an economist linked in German libraries. No wrong merge. I can't edit this GND field but I've removed "field of work: economy" in Wikidata. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)