User talk:Gamaliel

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Gamaliel/Archive 1 on 2020-02-25.

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q64013818&oldid=948532660

Imho this kind of same name = same person items doesn't make sense. If you do a 1 second research you see that NARA-Walter Vogel and LCAuth-Walter Vogel are two different persons.

I may recollect some details incorrectly, as this project was two years ago. These items were not matched by name. At the time I was working with a NARA employee (as a volunteer) to link as many of their authority records as possible with the plan to further develop Wikidata items once that was done. This may have changed, but at the time each NARA authority record was linked to a specific LC authority record. They are not visible on the page, but they were in the HTML so I could harvest them with OpenRefine. We discovered that some of the NARA authority records linked to (in our opinion) the wrong person, but we did not want to override their judgement and kept the links in Wikidata, with the hopes that we could get someone at NARA to clean up their authority records in the future. Unfortunately my contact no longer works for NARA and this project has ceased, so I have no objection if you edit any of these items any way you see fit.

Hi Gamaliel, coming across this, I was wondering who this is, because of File:Andamana; the first queen of Canary (IA andamanafirstque00whit).pdf stating: ...In 1844 the writer, Commodore William B. Whiting, U. S. Navy, then a lieutenant, visited the island of Gran Canaria and was much interested in the legends of Andamana, originally a village maiden and after- wards Queen of Canary,... The dates of birth and death do not match, but nevertheless. Thank you for your time. ~~~~

I think we have two different William Bradford Whitings. It's pretty common thing to happen. I'll create an item for the other one today so we can distinguish them. ~~~~

It looks like one is the grandfather of the other: https://www.entitree.com/en/family_tree/Q104093018

Hi. Could you please not add the image of Luis Bertrán, a spanish dominican friar of the XVIth century to the biography of Luis Beltrán? This last one was an argentinian franciscan friar and militar of the XIXth century. Thank you, and have a nice week. --~~~~

The image was added because item Q97159336 for the painting is identified as Luis Beltrán. Is this painting of a different person?

I've looked at the item for Q97159336 and corrected the error there. Thanks!

Can you tell me the logic/source you used to connect the ORCID to this author? I generated an item for Jennifer Barton (Q104805370), the author of Evaluation of segmentation algorithms for optical coherence tomography images of ovarian tissue (Q91471779), because I couldn’t confirm they were same person. Your LargeDatasetBot generated the item and you added the ORCID; can we with certainty connect that ORCID to Q104805370? If you can, please let me know and I’ll disambiguate. I’ve connected many items to the other person. Thanks.

LargeDataSet is not my bot. My only i involvement with ORCID items is mass addition of descriptions, I did not create any ORCID items.

My apologies. I see that now that I'm looking more closely at the time history.

Watch out for maiden or married surnames used as given names, e.g. for Q104595824, Fitch, Winslow, and Page are all surnames (family names), the last simply being that of the most recent husband. Maiden and married names can be qualified with P3831, see Lucy Burwell Page Saunders.

Thanks, it's a quirk of the new Q5 item creation tool, I'll watch out for that from now on.

Where is the Q5 item creation tool? Any method of more quickly creating items is urgently needed in Wikidata.

https://new-q5.toolforge.org/ by @1Veertje

nice tool. The P734/P735 part could need some tweaks.

Jan Smith tries to link Jan (Q69523536) (I was wondering which one it uses among Jan (Q12173670) and Jan (Q18220903))).

Oddly, what it does there isn't very transparent to the user. Personal names with more than two parts are tricky and assuming everything but the last part is a given name is frequently wrong. If the input is in Latin script, items being used should probably use that too. I started adding Wikidata usage instructions (P2559) to items that are generally problematic. Maybe these should be skipped by default.

"Jean Dupont" ends up being female as Jean (Q4160311) is used.

@1Veertje:

"Marcus Smith" uses Marcus (Q6757977)

Previous problems with name parsing: Topic:Vyc6rv36ww6d0myv

Why did you add the name "Christlich-Soziale Union in Bayern" to a party from Czechia in Christlich-Soziale Union in Bayern (Q12032235)?

I took the name from the LC authority file linked in the item: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/no2015120468.html

• You only added relationships in one side, which results in not only constraint violation but also possible duplicate creation in the future.
• Why uses described at URL (P973) instead of Find A Grave memorial ID (P535)?

The Relator tool is down, and I will go back and fix those items when it is working again.

Somehow you added what may be a description into the alias field: . Similar for the same elsewhere: . Would you double-check and fix your edits?

Also, please use an edit summary that explains what you try to do.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I'm attempting to remove the aliases but Quickstatements is not cooperating with me this morning so I will try again later.

I don't think alias deletion with QS works. Maybe the batch needs to be reverted or a bot request made?

Thanks for letting me know, I'll stop trying to get QS to work and just remove them manually, there's only 25 or so.

That's just the ones I came across, but maybe the entire batch needs to be looked at.

Other samples:

• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/index.php?diff=1012810334&oldid=878989564
• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/index.php?diff=1012810525&oldid=933646094
• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/index.php?diff=1012810515&oldid=933720026

The problem alias of the last two is now in a new item this was merged into. Looking for place items with the edit summary "Updated item:" on https://editgroups.toolforge.org/b/OR/9d7c69821/edits/ can help find them.

Thank you. I'll take a look.

Any idea where https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q12093321&diff=1012516579&oldid=1004048452 comes from?

Your edit summary was "Revenge of the Monolinguists batch lccn 7694"

The following in the same batch seem odd too:

• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/index.php?diff=1012558155&oldid=986433579
• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/index.php?diff=1012558162&oldid=977273137

Everything with LCCN pulls its information from Library of Congress Authority Files. See: https://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/nr2004016326.html

Maybe it should be put together differently, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/index.php?diff=1012558162&oldid=977273137 just spells out the given names .. so the alias should include the family name. The above is just from first 10 of 6000 .. you might want to go through your additions.

Can you try to look what remains to be fixed and add a request to Wikidata:Bot requests if you can't (or don't have time to) fix it yourself?

I've manually gone through most of the items and already fixed them.

Hi Gamaliel

At Q100330878, it seems you used the last of three parts of a personal name as family name. It clearly didn't work here and I don't think it works in general. Would you double check your edits?

One of the most productive publisher on Wikidata is "Rand Corporation Publications" = instance of scholarly article. This article has published 500+ books. Can you fix and rerun your bot? Example: "A Common Operating Picture ..." (Q60186988) by "Pyles, Raymond A.;Tripp, Robert S.;Lynch, Kristin F.;Snyder, Don;Mills, Patrick".

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you think needs to be corrected?