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Previous discussion was archived at User talk:MisterSynergy/Archive 1 on 2015-11-09.

Bluesoul86 (talkcontribs)

Why Q94579031 has been deleted? is a real person and famous dj, i have linked all official websites talk about him.

what do u need to establish he is not notable? he is present in most store of world and produced tracks for most important labels


MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

The relevant policy is Wikidata:Notability, and the item does not comply with it.

There need to be serious sources about him, not under control by himself, no user-generated content, and not of predominantly promotional nature. Do you have something like that?

Bluesoul86 (talkcontribs)

i have anything what do u need?

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Can you list some of your serious sources here?

Bluesoul86 (talkcontribs)

OK i links all official sources stores & social Media:

https://itunes.apple.com/it/artist/botteghi/280823844

https://play.google.com/store/music/artist?id=Ajjhewqdmwkmb5e4e6qy3ucwy2i

https://www.junodownload.com/search/?q%5Ball%5D%5B0%5D=botteghi&solrorder=date_down&music_product_type=single

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/botteghi-mn0003748527

https://www.deezer.com/en/artist/6325092

https://www.last.fm/it/music/Botteghi

https://www.shazam.com/it/artist/204260918/botteghi

https://open.spotify.com/artist/1xZsfT2naxtJacVyoAdZqu

https://www.beatport.com/artist/botteghi/605315

https://www.botteghiofficial.com

https://soundcloud.com/botteghiofficial

https://www.mixcloud.com/botteghiofficial/

https://www.instagram.com/botteghiofficial/

https://facebook.com/botteghiofficial/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm7IrW-3EiA8cyv9YB_dOrQ

https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCzWlY9WrcJ2nwFND4gAmkfQ

https://twitter.com/botteghidj

https://www.musixmatch.com/artist/Botteghi

https://giphy.com/botteghi


MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Well yes, most or all of these links had been placed in the item Q94579031 itself, but there is no independent editorial content about the artist available apparently.

Bluesoul86 (talkcontribs)

ok i link editorial links abou Botteghi

https://radiowow.com/members/botteghi/

https://www.rockol.it/concerto-dj-matte-botteghi-porto-rimini-rn-29-giugno-2019-c-wod553mwad5

http://www.molostreetparade.it/uncategorized/matte-botteghi/

https://www.discoteche.it/2018/08/29/matte-botteghi-la-mia-estate-da-resident-al-samsara-beach-riccione/

http://www.musicclub.eu/djset/matte-botteghi

https://www.bestentertainment.it/matte-botteghi-il-sound-e-lenergia-di-samsara-beach-riccione/

https://www.angelipierre.it/eventi/coconuts-guest-dj-matte-botteghi/

https://www.ansa.it/marche/notizie/2020/04/11/dj-set-da-record-per-aiutare-ospedali_9b69e771-1f01-4c01-9bc9-be27fb3452d8.html

https://www.youparti.com/botteghi-intervista/

https://www.edv24.it/cms/2013/06/30/bagolino-matte-botteghi-dj-set-al-pascia-beach-bar-di-ponte-caffaro/

https://www.residentadvisor.net/events/522284

https://www.samsarabeach.it/2017/10/samsara-on-torur/

https://djrankings.org/DJ-MATTE_BOTTEGHI

http://radiodate.it/radio-date/rivaz-botteghi-que-se-sepa-yo-naci-con-mi-178063-22-06-2018-radiodate/

https://www.nellanotizia.net/scheda_it_33861_MOLOTRE-Club-made-in-Italy-Bre_1.html

https://www.1001tracklists.com/dj/botteghi/index.html

http://www.enne2.com/matteo-botteghi_87.html

http://www.girodisco.it/eventi/matteo-botteghi/

https://allsongs.tv/news/concerti/road-to-nameless-music-festival-know-your-dj-botteghi/

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I am going to consult Italian speaking admins tomorrow to have a closer look.

Bluesoul86 (talkcontribs)

ok i wait for more info

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

@Epìdosis, Rippitippi, Sannita: I need some input by Italian-speaking admins here:

  • I did delete Q94579031 after it was listed at Wikidata:Requests for deletions yesterday. It contained various social media and streaming-related identifiers, but nothing that we usually consider as important in a notability assessment. Now the user has complained here.
  • They came along with the list of links above—but I cannot read most of them. It appears that they are mostly advertisements for events where the artist had an appearance, but actually I am not sure whether the item should be considered notable now. It still looks like the typical promotional stuff we see so much of recently.
  • Can you please give some input here?

Thanks!

Sannita (talkcontribs)

I've never heard about him, and it's almost certainly not notable even for Wikidata standards. Also, with the notable exception of Agenzia Nazionale Stampa Associata (Q392934) (where Botteghi is just cited at the end of the article as part of the DJ lineup, nothing more), all the sources provided are not-so-reliable sources.

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Peter20202014 (talkcontribs)

Can you explain to me why Q94978691 was deleted?

Many thanks

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

I deleted Q94978691 because it did not comply with the Wikidata:Notability policy. Unless there is serious third-party coverage about that company, Wikidata is not a place to host content about it.

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Mewa767 (talkcontribs)

Hallo MisterSynergy, ich habe mich längere Zeit nicht mehr gemeldet und ich denke, dass ich beachtliche Fortschritte in Benutzung von Wikidata gemacht habe. Zwei Datenobjekte kann ich immer noch nicht vereinigen - die Beschreibung dazu ist wirklich unverständlich. Deswegen möchte ich ich dich bitten die beiden Datenobjekte Q21555898 und Q53508560 (Melchior Haffner) zu vereinigen. Ich dachte, es wäre blöd, das einfach zu lassen, nachdem es mir aufgefallen ist, dass zwei Datenobjekte sich auf die gleiche Person beziehen. Wenn ich es selber machen könnte, würde ich dich damit nicht belästigen. Grüße Mewa767 (talk) 02:05, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hallo Mewa767, ich habe das schnell mal erledigt.

Wenn Du Probleme bei der Anleitung zum Vereinigen von Objekten siehst (Special:MyLanguage/Help:Merge), dann sollten wir da einen Blick drauf werfen und ggf. die Anleitung verbessern. Wo genau klemmt es?

Viele Grüße!

أبو السعد ٢٢ (talkcontribs)

please undelete it


it is not empty, just two members delete link repeatedly

أبو السعد ٢٢ (talkcontribs)
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MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

en:List of Jinn in Folklore is currently not an article, and draft pages such as en:Draft:List of Jinn in Folklore must not be connected to Wikidata items. Thus, please sort out the status of this article in enwiki first; once you got the content moved back to the article namespace *permanently*, I'd undelete the item and connect the sitelink.

أبو السعد ٢٢ (talkcontribs)

thanks

Vanbasten 23 (talkcontribs)

Question... there are biographies in Wikidata with the field "Country", which is not allowed because it cannot be used for people. My idea is to pass all cases to "Country of nationality" with a bot. Would that be correct? Or should we go one by one, especially for medieval characters. Thanks.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Not sure whether it is worth the effort.

These very generic properties such as country (P17), genre (P136), sport (P641), and so on are pretty meaningless in many situations, as editors just drop them everywhere. Very difficult to maintain in useable form, but fortunately there are usually better ways to express the same information (for items about humans for instance country of citizenship (P27) instead of country (P17), or occupation (P106) instead of sport (P641), and so on...). Thus: I just ignore those crappy properties  :-)

If you nevertheless want to clean up here, I suggest to do it step by step. Query for portions of the problem (if possible, could be difficult due to the large amount of uses):

I suggest to provide a comprehensive edit summary in English (and if you want to, in an other language such as Spanish). Feel free to add follow-up questions here.

Cheers!

Umm, are you indeed supporting "Hong Kong independence" and "Macau independence" movements?

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Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

If not, then what means your "as in many situations Hong Kong (Q8646) and Macau (Q14773) are proper values for P17"? You should know that such claim will result Wikidata banned-based-on-ISP in Asian countries.

Liuxinyu970226 (talkcontribs)

Under your claim, I would also think that Scotland (Q22) should be proper value, as there are really having items, that they claim that they are parts of non-UK Scotland!

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Comments read.

Sillyfolkboy (talkcontribs)

Hi there! I saw your revert - I had difficulty separating the concepts of mixed sex sports Q1940854 and mixed doubles Q70113667 across languages. I translated the article text to try to determine the concept in each language. It looks like "Mikst" in Polish aligns with the doubles concept more than the general concept, so I have moved that article link. Hope that is OK. Thanks!

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hey Sillyfolkboy, yes I was planning to create a new item for "mixed doubles" as well, just as you did now with mixed doubles (Q70113667). I am going to align it with women's singles (Q61588176), men's singles (Q61588168), women's doubles (Q61588198), and men's doubles (Q61588190) by making it "instance of: term", as this is more like an umbrella term shared by different types of sport for comparable situations, rather than a clear classification scheme that has a formal definition.

The problem with the merge was that the item mixed-sex sports (Q1940854) is in use in some statement in other items, and the post-merge situation clearly did not fit to those backlinks. Thus, Q1940854 was re-defined beyond an acceptable degree by the merge and had to be undone.

Sillyfolkboy (talkcontribs)

Thanks for fixing my error! I'm mostly working on articles at the moment, so it's useful to have someone to help with the data organisation. Cheers

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Wurgl (talkcontribs)
MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Typischerweise tut man da dann P1065- und P2960-Qualifikatoren dran, und lässt die gekaperte Website drin.

Wurgl (talkcontribs)

[x] Done – Merci!

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Nachtrag: vielleicht legst Du noch einen end time (P582)-Qualifikator bei, um anzuzeigen dass die Website nicht mehr offiziell bzw. unter deren Kontrolle liegt.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

RMaung (WMF) 19:54, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

please undelete Q66458942 ("original creation by uploader")

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Jheald (talkcontribs)

This was in use as a statement-value on several Commons files, as part of an exercise to map out ways to model appropriate structured data statements to describe the origins / source-nature of material there.

Please discuss first, before deleting items which are in-use as statement values.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)
Jheald (talkcontribs)

Hmmm.... It wasn't just one Commons talk page (where it wasn't actually included when you deleted it), but more relevantly the structured data of three Commons files (eg c:File:Petra_Al-Kaznah_by_Night.jpg). Not sure why it's not showing up, looks like a bug.

Jheald (talkcontribs)
MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Yeah, phab:T225672 looks related. They better fix this quickly, as otherwise these situations would happen potentially very often these days.