Schwede66

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novalue

Hey Schwede66, on this edit: please have a look how real novalue statements are added on this page (note the small symbol in the end of the paragraph). Otherwise the software would assume that "novalue" was the identifier… Cheers, MisterSynergy (talk) 19:45, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

@MisterSynergy: I see. I wondered how it was to be done, as I had noticed on other pages that the no value statement is linked, but my attempt didn't create a link. I thought it would get fixed eventually, and one can trust that you will cast your eye over it. Thanks for being in touch. Schwede66 (talk) 21:21, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Labels etc

Regarding label management:

• In Douglas Maclean (Q7347566) I used the standard GUI only to correct labels, since only a few labels were affected; after that, I used nameGuzzler.js (see below) to add more labels
• For more sophisticated tasks, there are several options:
  • The labelLister gadget at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets (I use it rarely, but have it activated)
  • mw.loader.load( '//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-dataDrainer.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript', 'text/javascript' ); // [[MediaWiki:Gadget-dataDrainer.js]] in Special:MyPage/common.js can remove all data of a type (e.g. labels) in an item in one edit
  • mw.loader.load( '//www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jitrixis/nameGuzzler.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript', 'text/javascript' ); // [[User:Jitrixis/nameGuzzler.js]] in Special:MyPage/common.js can add a label or alias to a pre-selected set of languages (my presets for latin-script languages are defined at User:MisterSynergy/nameGuzzlerOption.js; don’t use this when any kind of transciption is involved)

—MisterSynergy (talk) 05:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Very helpful - thanks! Schwede66 (talk) 07:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I've tried it with Q47338889 and it seems to work fine. Schwede66 (talk) 19:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Q566370

Hey Schwede66, can you remember what the problem was that you removed a SR link here from Gerd Kische (Q566370)? The removed profile "Gerd Kische" is actually the up-to-date version for him in SR, while the remaining "Gert Kische" is outdated and probably a misspelling. —MisterSynergy (talk) 16:06, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Hm, no, I don't. Funnily enough, Volker Kluge's book is open at that page this morning (he spells him "Gert"). Checking digitised newspapers it is indeed the common spelling that is correct. I'll fix it. Schwede66 (talk) 17:03, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Beale Cottage

Kia ora Schwede66, is Q75776067 that you created any different from Q4876124? I also noticed that you created Q75797384 that I merged to Q47508411. I hope that's alright. --Podzemnik (talk) 09:27, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

That's all good. As merging is so easy on Wikidata, I don't do much quality control before creating new items. Schwede66 (talk) 17:41, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Oki doki! Yes, merging is becoming my favourite feature :) --Podzemnik (talk) 18:17, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Are all heritage sites "historic building"?

Hi Schwede66, I have a question for you. Do you reckon that all NZ historic sites are "instance of" historic building? Like you added to Q77980098? I mean, there are some lighthouses or bridges on the list - can they be understood as "historical buildings", or should I rather use heritage site? Or even create a new item like heritage site in Norway. It'd be good to know your opinion before I start adding that to all NZ historic sites. --Podzemnik (talk) 00:01, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

@Podzemnik: No, I don't think they should all be classed as historic building. There are (or were) weird things on the Christchurch list: a gas lamp, a hitching post, various war memorials, statues, flats built in the mid-1950s (hardly historical), bridges, a tunnel, and a 1964 office building (since demolished). I don't have a strong opinion as to whether we should follow the Norway lead; after all, if you are after a list of NZ heritage sites you could filter for Property:P3728. Schwede66 (talk) 00:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

@Schwede66: OK. It's never as easy as I'd like :) I was more going for filling the field "instance of". It's quite a key field in the whole entry. I might just leave it blank for now and let others take care of it organically. --Podzemnik (talk) 00:42, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

@Podzemnik: Most of them will be historic buildings, of course. So if you are working with a spreadsheet, maybe make a note when you come across one that's 'different'. Schwede66 (talk) 00:45, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

@Schwede66: Yes, I am working with a spreadsheet but there are over 5000 entries, it's just too much to do manually. I might go for "heritage site" for now, just for entries without "instance of" filled. --Podzemnik (talk) 00:56, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

@Schwede66: Hmm or nah, I think I'll let it be for now and see what the future brings. --Podzemnik (talk) 01:02, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Things don't have to be perfect! Schwede66 (talk) 01:14, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Heritage New Zealand

@MisterSynergy: I hope you are well. I haven't been in touch in a while.

A few of us have been working on items (mostly buildings) registered by Heritage New Zealand. The set of entries on Wikidata should be complete (nearly 6,000 items) and we are linking to categories on Commons. What we eventually want to do is to automatically create list articles, just like the 172 lists on the German Wikipedia (here's an example for Takaka). But what we wouldn't want to do, of course, is to manually code all the tables. Much better is to read the info from Wikidata and auto-generate these tables. I guess for a start, we'd need to define the list of places that should have a table (maybe based on the German precedent) and then define that as a parameter within Wikidata? Have you ever done work like that? Could you please give us some pointers?

We are having a meetup this coming Thursday. Would be good to sort something beforehand. Schwede66 (talk) 20:13, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Hey Schwede66, yeah I remember that you already brought that up in November last year or so, and I still have some files on my computer. A rough strategy for your project would be:

• Verify that all buildings have an item with New Zealand Heritage List number (P3728) set; you claim that this should already be complete.
• Next, define from which properties you want to pull data into your tables and populate your ~6000 items as much as possible with these properties (can be automated to a far extent, I think); my guess, based on the linked dewiki list, is that your items should have at least these properties:
  • English label and description
  • instance of (P31)
  • country (P17) with value New Zealand (Q664)
  • coordinate location (P625)
  • image (P18) and Commons category (P373)
  • located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) or location (P276) (linking to the human settlement that the building is located in)
  • street address (P6375)
  • inception (P571)
  • heritage designation (P1435), with qualifier start time (P580)

Maybe there are others. If there is no data for some of the fields available, skip the corresponding properties.

The standard tool for such lists that you are looking for is User:ListeriaBot; this is a bot script which creates and updates lists based on a SPARQL query. An example is at User:MisterSynergy/List of architectural heritage monuments in Takaka (very basic example; the query on that page needs to be improved so that one only needs to provide Tākaka (Q151841) as in input, and formatting can also be improved); if you update the linked items, you can manually trigger an update of the Listeria-list to see whether all fields are filled as desired (sometimes it takes ~15 minutes until updates become effective).

The ListeriaBot script is at least helpful to see which data is already in a presentable form at Wikidata. I am not sure whether you want to create lists for each and every town; one can also try to section by NZ region. IIRC, a Listeria list can take up to 5000 items.

Unfortunately, Wikipedia communities are not very happy to see these lists in their main namespace. Thus, for production tables one might need to use one of these tricks:

• Strip away all bot-related things from that page, particularly {{Wikidata list}} and {{Wikidata list end}}; the tables are hard-coded into the wiki page, but they will no longer be updated if data in Wikidata is being updated
• Write a custom script that creates and populates these tables; not that difficult either with pywikibot, but it will probably not have an update function either
• Finally, a completely different approach would be to generate the tables with a lua module and templates in Wikipedia. You would probably have to provide Q-numbers of the items that should appear on each table, but data retrieval and table coding can then be automated. This approach would also allow auto-updates once data in Wikidata is being updated. I do not have much experience with this strategy, however.

So far. What you plan looks totally doable. The biggest task is probably to bring all the available data to Wikidata in correct properties. In case of questions, feel free to ask. —MisterSynergy (talk) 21:19, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

@MisterSynergy: That's awesome! I'll ponder the options. I had no idea that auto-generated lists aren't welcome in mainspace. I'll look into that. But maybe Lua is the way to go. Schwede66 (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

It depends on the particular community whether Listeria-lists are allowed in main namespace or not. In German Wikipedia you cannot use it, Magnus has even deactivated the bot in main namespace there due to pressure by the community. Enwiki has seen its Wikidata-related dramas as well, but I am not aware of any details. Effectively, if there is a strict "no-Wikidata" policy that would rule out using ListeriaBot or Lua modules, one can still cycle the data through Wikidata, i.e. import it here and generate (non-updating) static tables with a script that are no longer in any way connected to Wikidata. I have done something like this in the past and would help with that script. You would not have to erratically write the tables manually, and any third-party users can use the data from Wikidata as well which is another bonus. —MisterSynergy (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!

	Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!
	By improving information about GLAM institutions on Wikidata, you made the Wikimedia projects better for everyone! Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 14:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

New Zealand

Thanks about the New Zealand. I understand that it´s New Zealand and not New Zealander. Now, I need to know if it would be right to put "East Timore cyclist", "Santomean cyclist", "Mongol cyclist", "Moldavian cyclist", "Solomon Islands cyclist" and "Hongkonger cyclist", because I saw other options and I have to change them all. Thank you so much. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 19:54, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Vanbasten 23, I'm not a native English speaker so maybe not the best person to ask. "Hongkonger cyclist" is certainly wrong; it would use that expression in the en:Hong Kong residents article but it doesn't. Schwede66 (talk) 20:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Rotorua Lakes

I changed Rotorua District (Q15059492) back to "Rotorua District" as that is still the official gazetted name (https://gazetteer.linz.govt.nz/place/15006) for the district (and even the council refers to it that way), although yes, the operating name of the territorial authority is Rotorua Lakes Council (Rotorua Lakes Council (Q65602681)). Since the council and the district are a merged article on the English Wikipedia, it probably makes sense to call it Rotorua Lakes there. Happy to discuss if you disagree. --Canley (talk) 04:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Canley; no trouble. It's probably best to document these finer details in the article itself. This came up during the macron debate, too, when an IP pointed out that there's a difference between a council's trading name and their gazetted name. Most councils don't bother to gazette their trading name is what I've learned from that. Schwede66 (talk) 05:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Interview Invitation

Hi Schwede66,

I noticed your editing stats in Wikidata, which led me to look up your profile. Thank you for all the great work!

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Kaiate Falls

Hi, just wanted to check if these items should be merged or if there is some distinction that I'm not seeing: Te Rerekawau (Q104932337) and Te Rerekawau (Q34854444) (there is a different from (P1889) statement)? There is also a locality of the same name (Kaiate Falls (Q25660689)) which should be distinct. --Canley (talk) 02:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@Canley: I remember that when I looked into this before, there appeared to be distinctly different waterfalls. But to be honest, I cannot remember what that was; should make notes on the talk pages of items going forward. What I can see is that there are two separate falls on this stream and the upper one of these is a three-tiered fall, with the lower one a single fall. I cannot find any longer if / that the te reo name applied to just one of those. So there's either the case of merging, or making a clearer distinction between upper and lower falls. Schwede66 (talk) 22:35, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Publication dates

Hi! I'm curious about this edit, which I saw in the RC. I believe all we can say about this article is that it was published "in November 1982", not "on 1 November 1982". Of course, all you did was remove the leading zero, undoubtedly an improvement, but I wanted to point out that the description might need changing again. I'm trying to find ways to do that automatedly once my current bot task has finished... Streetmathematician (talk) 19:03, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Well, I've wondered that, too. I haven't looked at the source to see whether it says "first of the month" or whether that comes from an automated process. If the day of publication isn't known, I'd appreciate if a bot run could tidy these up. The other thing that such a bot run could straighten out is the grammar, where it says "on MMM YYYY" when it should say "in MMM YYYY". Schwede66 (talk) 19:11, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

The PubMed JSON seems to me not to indicate the date of publication with day precision in this case, and that's what's listed as a reference, so I think we should fix those cases automatically. "on MMM YYYY" seems to affect approximately 2.8 million items, and the leading zero 11.4 million, so the scale of the problem is quite significant. I'm unsure whether it is better to have multiple clearly-delimited bot runs or combined bot runs to keep the total edit count low, though in this case there's no risk of touching the same item in both runs...

I've downloaded the Crossref public data file and looked at conflicts between it and the Wikidata metadata, and there are a lot, so this seems like a rather larger project than I had thought. Streetmathematician (talk) 19:39, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

If there is some manual cleanup needed and it isn't too big a task, let me know. Schwede66 (talk) 19:43, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Just in case you're interested, User:Streetmathematician/Three-Date Publications is a list of articles with three different publication years (Crossref online, Crossref print, and Wikidata). I think correcting the publication date for those will have to be done manually at some point. Streetmathematician (talk) 20:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

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Please keep items separated

Please keep Imperial Hotel (Q15228586) and QueenStreet Backpackers (Q111118694) separate. One describes the building and the newer the hostel business Germartin1 (talk) 05:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Fine by me. Schwede66 (talk) 05:01, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, please also untangle the building from the hotel in this case Oaks Residences (Q111362762) Germartin1 (talk) 05:08, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Inclusion of "Associate Professor" in name

I erred by not informing you of these changes, but I would stand by the validity of my edits. I defend them by suggesting that "Associate Professor" is not part of their name, but their rank or position. Would you also include "Mr." or "Mrs." in their name? I don't expect one would. Trilotat (talk) 19:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

This isn’t about rank. This is about what users of this database may use as a search term. Schwede66 (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

New family names and given names

Hi Schwede66!

It's nice of you to create new names. Please be so kind and fill in at least these three properties, it will save the other Wikidata contributors a lot of work:

• For names in Latin script:

1. instance of (P31) (use "family name (Q101352)", "male given name (Q12308941)" or "female given name (Q11879590)")
2. writing system (P282) (use "Latin script (Q8229)")
3. native label (P1705) (use allways "mul" for the language specification; specific language specifications require a reference)

Tip: The easiest way would be to use the script from User:Bargioni, see: User:Bargioni/QuickNames

Note: Arabic, Chinese, Greek, Japanese, Korean, Russian names, etc. must be created in their original script. User:Bargioni's tool is not suitable for this.

• For persons of Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian origin etc., and other countries with Cyrillic writing system, create the name in Cyrillic script:

1. instance of (P31) (use "family name (Q101352)", "male given name (Q12308941)" or "female given name (Q11879590)")
2. writing system (P282) (use "Cyrillic script (Q8209)")
3. native label (P1705) (use allways "mul" for the language specification; specific language specifications require a reference)

Note: The transliteration from e.g. Russian (Q7737)/Ukrainian (Q8798)/Serbian (Q9299) etc. to English (Q1860), French (Q150), German (Q188) and various other languages is different.

For more information please see this page: Wikidata:WikiProject Names/Properties.

I wish you continued happy work on Wikidata. Best regards, HarryNº2 (talk) 05:21, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

HarryNº2, you will find that in 99% of the cases, I do provide all three. Where I don't, it's usually because I'm not sure how to deal with a native label as it may not necessarily be the same as in English. Schwede66 (talk) 05:24, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

See my note regarding names in Russian, which also applies to all names that are not originally from Latin, e.g. Bulgarian, Greek, Japanese, Korean, Hindi, etc. If in doubt, leave the creation of these names to a native speaker. --HarryNº2 (talk) 05:35, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

That's awesome. Very handy. Thank you! Schwede66 (talk) 05:38, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

HarryNº2 This needs your input. I've just added a middle name to an article and yes, Mrinal (Q65121302) already existed but with none of the three properties nor the description. I've added two of those four things. Do you know what to do with the two remaining properties? Schwede66 (talk) 06:16, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am not familiar with Indian names. In such cases, I would only fill in what is necessary and leave the rest to a native speaker. But you are welcome to ask here → Wikidata talk:WikiProject Names. --HarryNº2 (talk) 07:04, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Do not add Chinese given name without proof

Dan (Q97573280) is a specific Chinese given name 丹. RZuo (talk) 07:07, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Ann and Joseph John Ward

I've started a discussion on Ann Ward's page relating to some of your contributions. Can you review and make changes as needed? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AQ114971836#Ann_Ward_was_Joseph_John_Ward's_mother,_not_his_spouse SheamusPatt (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Commons category for Govett-Brewster Art Gallery/Len Lye Centre

Hi. I think I've created a Commons category muddle with creating a new category called "Govett-Brewster Art Gallery/Len Lye Centre", where the category "Govett-Brewster" does not exist but the category "Len Lye Centre" does. Also Wikidata items and agggh. Could you please help me sort? Cheers, Quilt Phase (talk) 05:26, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Sure; happy to help. Will happen later; I'm about to have dinner, Quilt Phase. What should that category called instead? Schwede66 (talk) 05:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

The website "entity" is "Govett-Brewster Art Gallery/Len Lye Centre". I figure the two should be referred to as one. So we have the category I created "Govett-Brewster Art Gallery/Len Lye Centre", the category "Len Lye Centre" and the non-existent category "Govett-Brewster Art Gallery". Sorry this has ended up in your Wikidata talk page, but I am trying to connect Wikidata authority controls to Commons! Quilt Phase (talk) 10:07, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Quilt Phase, shall I turn the Len Lye Centre category into a redirect and merge the contents? Schwede66 (talk) 20:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan! Thanks, Quilt Phase (talk)

All sorted. Schwede66 (talk) 02:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Pakihikura duplicate

Hi, is Pakihikura Harbour (Q128534896) a duplicate of Pakihikura Harbour (Q127947803)? Because of construction works, the natural bay is now considered to be a human-made harbour, but it's the same physical place. LINZ has deleted New Zealand Gazetteer place ID (P5104) 57205 and replaced it with 61910. So should these wikidata entries be merged? Any advice would be appreciated, thanks, Кайл55 (talk) 09:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

It seems that it could be merged, but let us ask Prosperosity who created the other item. Schwede66 (talk) 18:26, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

At the time Q128534896 didn't exist yet (and this was before 57205 was depreciated by LINZ) - I've merged the two. Prosperosity (talk) 19:43, 2 October 2024 (UTC)