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Princely states of IndiaEdit

Hello, how are you ? I thought you might be interested into cleaning that list : https://w.wiki/kJA Filling in dissolution date + replaced by would be highly helpful. Or if you know another Indian wikidata lover. Thanks, Bouzinac💬✒️💛 20:28, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Reversion of all assignement P361 to the elections in EU statesEdit

Hi, Why did you revert all this changes ?. Thanks Amadalvarez (talk) 05:02, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Amadalvarez: I didn't know "Latvia" == "European Union". (Note that the reversions I made were on 2009 election items only.) Mahir256 (talk) 05:02, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
So, I have to upload again ?, because the items are about parliament lections in xxxx. Therefore, all of them are P361 of EP elections for the same year. Amadalvarez (talk) 05:06, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
@Amadalvarez: (sigh) You should have used 2009 European Parliament election (Q210152) for those items instead of 2009 European Parliament election in Latvia (Q1376175). Now that I've drawn your attention to this, feel free to go back and add the correct P361. Mahir256 (talk) 05:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Ahhh. Sorry. I see, caLabel was wrong. Thanks Amadalvarez (talk) 05:12, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

AvietteEdit

Why did you revert my link at aviette (Q101486849) to the corresponding definition in Wiktionary? --RAN (talk) 05:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Interwiki links between pages in the main namespaces of Wiktionaries are handled by the Cognate extension. If you add link to a Wiktionary mainspace page to an item, however, then all other links that Cognate would have provided would disappear on that page. In your specific case, there were links to the Armenian, Tamil, and Vietnamese Wiktionaries that were lost with your addition of the link; even if you went ahead and added those three links as well, they go directly against what the Cognate extension was developed for in the first place. Any complaints about this should be directed to the developers of the extension or those who help develop Wikidata's notability criteria. (@TJMSmith, Awellmann, Agaath, Юрко Градовський: if you're also wondering about similar sitelink addition reversions.) Mahir256 (talk) 05:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Revert on LexemeEdit

Hi Mahir, can you explain the reasoning behind your revert on this? What was disagreeable for you? https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Lexeme:L32914&oldid=prev&diff=1317064748&markasread=639041776&markasreadwiki=wikidatawiki --Thadguidry (talk) 03:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Thadguidry: The definitions you used, having come from a primary source, are exactly what gloss quote (P8394) was proposed for, since attributing an entire meaning to a single author (who likely didn't originate the concept of epigenetics) is rather odd (@Fnielsen: as the proposer of P8394, and @Nikki: who might have thoughts on whether the two sourced definitions should be part of the same sense). Mahir256 (talk) 06:00, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
@Mahir256: Hi Mahir, Senses and Lexemes are not Items. I'm not sure if you are familiar with our Lexicographical Data Model. epigenetics (L32914) is a Lexeme (a set of char glyphs in a language) that can have different meanings (Senses) depending on region, usage, etc. -S1 -S2, etc. Senses themselves can be linked to Items. Senses are "definitions" like in a dictionary, and sometimes they are created by someone in an academic field, and we absolutely want to capture those as they are often the most important for historical and scientific purposes. In this case, 3 definitions are captured thus far, where one of them is older than the other, and the newer one is a more modern definition used quite often by scientists. It's useful to have historical context, as well as show the authorship and citations when we have them of these definitions (Senses in the Lexeme space). The concept of epigenetics is an Item epigenetics (Q26939) currently already linked to through the use of item for this sense (P5137). But concepts are also in fact, each individual Sense, as the same Lexeme might refer to different concepts (Senses) and where you see this quite often in philosophical discussions, but we won't go there :-) We could have all 4 or 5 concepts of epigenetics as individual Items, but I don't think that's useful for the world's knowledge. Instead it's more useful to have 1 concept/item of epigenetics and then tie that into the Lexeme space with it's rich ability to capture multiple Senses (definitions/concepts).
Now, I do see you are indeed trying to help and be more accurate and introducing instead gloss quote (P8394). That's great, thanks! Now we'll have a slight problem with capturing the modern definition that was made at the Cold Spring Harbor meeting in 2008, but which I think fits perfectly with the usage of gloss quote (P8394). I'll work on that today after my meetings. Thanks for pointing me to that property. --Thadguidry (talk) 14:27, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Removal of elevation given in feet for different German AirportsEdit

Hello Mahir, could you please explain why you e.g. removed the elevation of 640 ft for the airport Koblenz-Winningen (EDRK) that me and other people added before? As a pilot, I can tell you that it is the official height published by the "Deutsche Flugsicherung" (DFS) and which can be retrieved from all official charts. I know that heights given in feet might look strange, but in aviation, this is the standard (whereas meter is not!) If you removed it because you think it is a duplicate of the metric value I nevertheless highly ask you to not remove the feet values as they help people in the area of aviation. At all places where I added the feet values I also double checked the metric values and I can assure that I only used official papers to get the values from. I can see that you also removed it for other airports where I added thee feet values before. I'll restore those values and kindly ask you to please leave the feet values there :-). Thanks a lot MaximilianLorent

@MaximilianLorent: Hello! Thank you for letting me know about the unit convention for elevations in aviation. I will admit I was under the false impression that meter elevations were preferred in countries that primarily used them, but of the two equivalent values I saw on the items, most of the ones I had removed lacked references, and on Wikidata if there are two equivalent values for a property on an item (one with references and one without) it is preferable to keep the one with references. If in fact the feet values are officially published by DFS (and are in some "official charts" published somewhere), then I ask that you add a reference to the feet values to that effect (perhaps linking to one of those charts), rather than leaving the reader guessing whether those specific figures are in fact stated somewhere or whether someone just converted the meter measurement given. Speaking of this last possibility, when querying elevations it is already possible to normalize units with the "psv:" prefix so that feet measurements and meter measurements can be compared directly without needing to store both as separate measurements (and you're not the only one who may not have been aware of this), so if feet measurements are in fact official as regards airport elevations then adding converted meter equivalents is not necessary. Hope that helps! Mahir256 (talk) 19:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
@Mahir256: Hello Mahir, thanks a lot for your explanation about duplicates and their conversion. From your explanation, I clearly understand that only adding the foot values makes much more sense than adding foot and meter values. Thus, if you want to the meter values can be removed. However, referring to your proposal to add references I do not really know how to proceed here. In fact, all those values are published in the "DFS German VFR AIP" for each and every German airport which is the official source for any VFR flight preparation. However, the "DFS German VFR AIP" is not publically available but must be bought on a yearly basis or is part of a variety of flight planning software. So can you please help me how to correctly reference (I cannot provide a link or anything like this as it does not exist))? By the way: I added the feet values for (all) 480 German airports, so that I would have to add those references for all these airports as well. Thus, maybe someone can help me as it is really time consuming (adding the values took me nearly two days).

WikiProject India Newsletter #6Edit

Hi Mahir256,

Happy New Year 2021!

You are receiving this message as you are one of the participants of WikiProject India on Wikidata and/or a subscriber of the Wikidata India newsletter. You can find our sixth issue of the quarterly newsletter here, where you can get a quick overview of the Wikidata activities related to India over the last 3 months. If you do not want to receive this kind of notification further, you can remove your username from here.

Regards, Bodhisattwa (CIS-A2K) and Mahir256
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Module:Wikidata labelEdit

Thanks for a quick action on Module:Wikidata label. Something went wrong with my save and it took me few minutes to notice. --Jarekt (talk) 03:28, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

GordyEdit

Hello, can you set the label in Bengali for Gordy? Thank you. Cat~idwiki (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

@Bennylin:, as the person who blocked this account on idwiki more than ten years ago, can the request above be taken as good faith? Mahir256 (talk) 01:41, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
OK, I will admit it: I am User:Bambifan101. I was also User:Kkjj, who was also blocked by Bennylin in jvwiki four years ago. As far as good faith, I just wanted labels in Bengali for movies like Gordy and Babe. I can name some of my favorite topics where I would like the labels set:
  • Gordy
  • Babe
  • Charlotte's Web 2: Wilbur's Great Adventure
  • Teletubbies
  • The Lion King II: Simba's Pride
  • The Rescuers Down Under
  • Lady and the Tramp II: Scamp's Adventure
  • Oliver & Company
  • iCarly
  • Victorious
  • The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
  • The Princess and the Frog

No, I do not wish harm with the labels. But on the other hand, I know that there are so many, and I wanted articles on them too. Is anyone at bnwiki interested in animated movies and the like? Cat~idwiki (talk) 02:17, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Can you add the Bengali label for Kali Rocha now? Also, the other pages mentioned. Oliver & Company for example. 104.58.147.208 19:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
I got half of Oliver & Company done. Also half of The Lion King II: Simba's Pride and The Rescuers. But I didn't know what to do about Kali Rocha and Charlotte's Web. 2600:1700:53F1:5560:2D26:4E04:A4:AF38 03:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Can you check these pages edited by me and by 2600:1700:53F1:5560:2D26:4E04:A4:AF38? 2600:1700:53F0:AD70:B15C:265A:6035:6D96 03:05, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
I couldn't do Tramp or Rescuers Down Under but I did Lady and the. But how to do Princess, Frog, Tramp II: Scamp's Adventure, and Rescuers Down Under? Another one I didn't know how to do was Dove Cameron. However, bn:অলিভার অ্যান্ড কোম্পানির exists now. Also, at bn:লিভ অ্যান্ড ম্যাডি, I wanted to write more about it, but I couldn't do much. I put "The love story of the two sisters is the main theme of this film." from the Frozen page, but changed it to say drama instead of film. However, this is the text I wanted back in 2017:

The series stars Dove Cameron in a dual role as identical twin sisters with entirely different personalities, with Liv being a girly girl who was an actress in Hollywood for four years and Maddie being a tomboy with a facility for sports, particularly basketball. The series revolves around Liv readjusting to normal family life after production on her hit television program Sing It Loud! ended, as well as the two sisters being best friends despite their opposing personalities and different interests.

Then about Oliver & Company, I wanted to write:

The film is inspired by the famous 1838 Charles Dickens novel Oliver Twist, which has been adapted many other times for the screen. In the film, Oliver is a homeless kitten who joins a gang of dogs to survive in the streets. Among other changes, the setting of the film was relocated from 19th century London to modern-day New York City, Fagin's gang is made up of dogs (one of which is Dodger), and Sykes is a loan shark.

I had asked about Liv and Maddie before back when Kkjj wasn't blocked yet. But I haven't seen it show up yet. Also, for movies like Charlotte's Web 1 and 2 that I put the label on recently, did I get them right? 2600:1700:53F1:5560:C988:C3D8:AFFA:95CC 20:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Cyrillic transliteration improvementsEdit

Hi. Are you able to have a look at this request: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-SimpleTransliterate.js#Change request: Cyrillic characters? Thanks. —Michael Z. 16:11, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct consultationEdit

Hello, I am writing to you to personally invite you to the ongoing consultation about the new Wikimedia movement's Universal Code of Conduct. Your feedback as an admin and experienced user is of great value for us, and we are extremely interested in hearing your say.

You might express your opinion at any given time and in any way you may consider useful (for example, publicly at the consultation page or on my talk page, or privately via email). If you wish or feel more comfortable, we can also set up an online meeting in order to discuss your opinions and ideas.

Please remember that there is no such thing as a “stupid opinion” or “worthless idea”, so be bold and feel free to express yourself. :) Also, if you wish you can help us involving other users you know and that you think might be interested in having their say in this!

Hope to hear from you soon! --Sannita (WMF) (talk) 17:16, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

[WMF Board of Trustees - Call for feedback: Community Board seats] Meetings with the Wikidata communityEdit

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is organizing a call for feedback about community selection processes between February 1 and March 14. While the Wikimedia Foundation and the movement have grown about five times in the past ten years, the Board’s structure and processes have remained basically the same. As the Board is designed today, we have a problem of capacity, performance, and lack of representation of the movement’s diversity. Our current processes to select individual volunteer and affiliate seats have some limitations. Direct elections tend to favor candidates from the leading language communities, regardless of how relevant their skills and experience might be in serving as a Board member, or contributing to the ability of the Board to perform its specific responsibilities. It is also a fact that the current processes have favored volunteers from North America and Western Europe. In the upcoming months, we need to renew three community seats and appoint three more community members in the new seats. This call for feedback is to see what processes can we all collaboratively design to promote and choose candidates that represent our movement and are prepared with the experience, skills, and insight to perform as trustees?

In this regard, two rounds of feedback meetings are being hosted to collect feedback from the Wikidata community. Two rounds are being hosted with the same agenda, to accomodate people from various time zones across the globe. We will be discussing ideas proposed by the Board and the community to address the above mentioned problems. Please sign-up according to whatever is most comfortable to you. You are welcome to participate in both as well!

Also, please share this with other volunteers who might be interested in this. Let me know if you have any questions. KCVelaga (WMF), 14:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)