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The Last of Us: Left Behind

video game expansion pack (Q209163) are a subclass to video game (Q7889). It's unnecessary. Trade (talk) 19:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Trade:  Checked I got it, thanks for the clarification! :) Kirilloparma (talk) 21:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

VTMB 2

Why did you called the game a immersive sim? Trade (talk)

Because the game provides also immersive sim elements (see here [1] [2] [3]). Kirilloparma (talk) 21:10, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

BTVA franchise

Ciao, scusa, anziché annullare, potresti sistemare tu che sei più esperto di queste cose? L'ID è stato creato su mia proposta, ma è evidentemente un ID per i franchise (di cui le serie di videogiochi sono un sottordine, casomai) perché BTVA non non si occupa mica solo di videogiochi, quindi se ha come vincolo le serie di videogiochi e non i franchise forse è stato un mio errore nella richiesta della proprietà, comunque va sicuramente corretto perché è usato anche per franchise che non c'entrano con i videogiochi. Grazie,--Spinoziano (talk) 12:59, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

 Resolved @Spinoziano: Ciao, ho controllato un attimo il sito, l'ID effettivamente corrisponde ai diversi tipi di franchise (film, videogiochi, serie animate e etc.) che hai menzionato qui sopra, perciò ho corretto la proprietà, grazie per la segnalazione. P.S. Se ci sono altre proprietà che sono da sistemare, dimmi pure che li correggo. Kirilloparma (talk) 19:51, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Ciao, ho notato un'altra proprietà, anche questa creata su mia proposta, che mi sembra vada corretta. Si tratta dell'identificativo Multiplayer, il problema è che in elementi come questo dice "Questa proprietà dovrebbe contenere solo un singolo valore", ma su Multiplayer i giochi sono divisi per piattaforme quindi bisogna che siano inseribili più valori per le piattaforme, come appunto avviene in quell'elemento con Switch e PS4. --Spinoziano (talk) 16:36, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

 Resolved @Spinoziano: Ciao! Ho corretto il vincolo del valore singolo con separatore "platform", in modo che i valori multipli sono consentiti sotto questo vincolo, inoltre, ho messo che identificativo ora deve richiedere il vincolo di asserzione (sempre platform) in modo che la proprietà richieda sempre di mettere il qualificatore "piattaforma" per più valori (esempio), oppure quando è assente proprio nelle "dichiarazioni" (esempio). Kirilloparma (talk) 02:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Counter-Strike: Source (Q473673)

Добрый день. Напишу на русском, дабы не тратить время впустую. Вы отменили мою правку, и причины этой отмены мне абсолютно не ясны. В Help:Aliases однозначно указано, что не следует указывать алиасы, формируемые на основе ошибок в написании основного названия и различиях капитализации. Вы считаете, что удалённые мной алиасы не попадают в эти категории? Gjrfytn (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kirilloparma:, ок, пингану. Gjrfytn (talk) 19:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

@Gjrfytn: Добрый вечер коллега, извиняюсь за столь поздний ответ, я никак не находил времени на обсуждения на Викиданных, а также в других проектах. Итак, сейчас я удалил некоторые синонимы которые не подходили для элемента Q473673, в целом, я не увидел явных ошибок в написании основного названия, но зато имеется капитализация аббревиатуры о которой Вы упоминули. К сожалению так сложилось, что на Викиданных имеется тысяча элементов по компьютерным играм (и не только по играм), где используется капитализация именно для «аббревиации» синонима, примеры The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Q49607), Grand Theft Auto V (Q17452), Half-Life 2 (Q193581), The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Q323862), S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (Q215861), Battlefield V (Q21043786). Это делается в интересах читателя, чтобы было легче найти элемент. Да и сами участники Викиданных уже к этому привыкли, особых проблем у нас с этим не было. Тоже самое происходит и с отсутствием «двоеточия» в синонимах, пример Need for Speed: Most Wanted (Q220365). С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 00:05, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kirilloparma: Мне кажется, что такие алиасы, как «Counter Strike: Source», «Counter-Strike Source» и заодно с ними «CS Source» не нужны, так как они фактически являются ошибочными написаниями оригинального названия (без дефиса или без двоеточия). Их бы я тоже убрал. «CS: Source» действительно является настоящим алиасом названия, с этим я согласен. Но этот алиас не является специфичным для русского сегмента и уже указан для «родного» для названия языка — английского. Поэтому я удалил и этот алиас из Russian, поскольку в этом случае в русской версии поиск викиданных корректно работает с алиасами из English. Gjrfytn (talk) 19:41, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

@Gjrfytn: Ну хорошо, можно и вовсе оставить элемент без синонимов, только боюсь, что анонимные редакторы всё восстановят обратно через некоторое время. Сейчас я оставил только синоним CS: Source и добавил другой CS:S который также упоминается собственно в статье у нас (см. здесь) — остальные алиасы были убраны. Кстати, почему на Викиданных имеются такие алиасы, то есть без двоеточия и с капитализацией аббревиатуры, я Вам уже объяснил. Вы отметили, что иностранные алиасы не являются специфичными для русского сегмента, но дело в том, что конкретно для элемента Counter-Strike: Source русских алиасов и вовсе нет. То есть никто из участников не стал бы добавлять алиасы вроде: Контр-Страйк: Соурс, Контер Страйк: Соурс и.т. Русские алиасы соответственно могут быть, если конечно же имеется локализованное название, см. к примеру Days Gone (Q24576564) — это первое. Второе что я хочу отметить, это что конкретно у нас в РуВики, имеется целая страница с перенаправлениеми тех самых алиасов для элемента Counter-Strike: Source (Q473673) которые были удалены, собственно почему тогда они не могут быть на Викиданных ... мне не понятно. Но всё же в целом, Вы правы что всё-таки с русского лучше их убрать, они будут отображаться всё равно уже с иностранных языков, так что думаю что вопрос решён. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 17:15, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

@Kirilloparma: Отлично, рад, что мы пришли к консенсусу! Насчёт перенаправлений на РуВики: те, что созданы как варианты ошибочного описания, но не используются в АИ, я выставлю на быстрое удаление, как предписывают правила. Gjrfytn (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

After Burner

scusa ma se il qualificatore non è quello corretto allora correggilo, che cazzo cancelli tutto? --Bultro (talk) 16:58, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@Bultro: Ciao! Ohuohoho, fermati un attimo, allora:

1. Il linguaggio in primis. Già che qualcuno mi scrive in questo modo senza nemmeno salutare, posso anche non rispondere ... (chiusa parentesi).
2. Il qualificatore "piattaforma" è stato cancellato da tanto tempo fa dal MobyGames ID. Per quale motivo è stato cancellato, vedi → qui.
3. E per finire, scusami, però io non sono obbligato di correggere errori e perdere del mio tempo, quando tu stesso li puoi correggere. In secondo luogo, non c'era nulla da correggere qui, perchè l'ID dovrebbe contenere un solo valore singolo con qualificatori ammessi (dal consenso stabilito) ... In fine, che non si ripeta più questa cosa poi per mandarmi messaggio con il linguaggio offensivo senza nemmeno salutare, in più annulare senza il motivo valido, quando ho indicato il referimento del problema ...

P.S. Qui siamo su Wikidata, e quindi si deve adeguare alle regole e il consenso stabilito proprio qui, e non al contrario, cioè fare tutto di testa tua su itwiki, poi per importarlo qui su Wikidata, non è che funziona così eh. Distinti saluti. Kirilloparma (talk) 17:53, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

è stato cancellato meno di due mesi fa ed è stato un errore, dovuto a poca conoscenza della reale situazione. Ho già risposto in quella discussione --Bultro (talk) 18:13, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

@Bultro: No, non è stato cancellato per un errore, ce un motivo molto ben valido. Dato che MobyGames è principalmente una fonte autopubblicata, cioè sul sito potrebbe chiunque pubblicare informazioni sui videogiochi, quindi è per questo poi che qualcuno pubblica una cosa del genere, piattaforma: amoquestogioco/last-of-us (questo link sarà sempre presente su MobyGames), ed è proprio per questo che P400 non rientra più nei qualificatori ammessi per MobyGames ID, appunto per evitare questo casino. Il prefisso non deve far parte dell'identificatore a prescindere, dato che chiunque lo potrebbe cambiare ed impostare su qualsiasi cosa, ad esempio, io entro su MobyGames, cambio link e ti piazzo su Wikidata dentro la piattaforma che non esiste: esempio /playstation10/last-of-us ed è fatta. Guarda il link, cliccalo e capirai meglio di cosa stiamo parlando. Dobbiamo appunto evitare questa cosa qui su Wikidata, anche perché poi questi URL falsari andranno in diversi Wikipedia, itwiki compresa. Ricapitolando, qualificatore "piattaforma" è stato rimosso, perchè chiunque su Wikidata potrebbe mettere una cosa insensata messa nel link del sito MobyGames, e questi URL falsari poi andranno da per tutto. Mi dispiace, ma purtroppo P400 non rientrerà più nei qualificatori ammessi.

Allora, per quanto riguarda utilizzare P400 per valori multipli. Io non so se tu hai letto bene la spiegazione fatta → qui, ma purtroppo anche qua stesso problema, o forse ancora peggio ... Come ho già spiegato prima, dato che chiunque potrebbe cambiare ed impostare su qualsiasi cosa la piattaforma, così lo è anche per piattaforme multiple. Qua ancora peggio, esempio: BioForge (Q864309), è stato pubblicato su piattaforme come DOS e Windows, URL ci manda appunto su /dos/bioforge e /windows/bioforge. Tuttavia, io potrei cambiare URL su qualsiasi altra piattaforma, su quale il gioco non è mai uscito, anche quella che non esiste proprio, oppure su una cosa insensata. Guarda, prova anche tu, e poi me lo dici se funziona, prova questi link e capirai meglio:

• /playstation20/bioforge
• /unacosainsensata/bioforge
• /xbox20000000/bioforge
• /kirilloparma/bioforge
• /bultro/bioforge
• /nintendo40ds/bioforge

e etc ... Adesso credo di aver spiegato meglio la situazione. Saluti. Kirilloparma (talk) 20:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzeria Simulator

"В настоящее время в ряде случаев вместо компьютерная игра может использоваться видеоигра, то есть данные термины могут употребляться как синонимы и быть взаимозаменяемыми."
Компьютерная игра // Википедия. [2018—2019]. Дата обновления: 21.09.2019. URL: https://ru.wikipedia.org/?oldid=102286598 (дата обращения: 05.10.2019). WikiSpirit1234 (talk) 17:50, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Interactive film

This genre is not supported by any sources nor French Wikipedia (Genre: Action-aventure) for Detroit: Become Human. Please do not add it again. --Sebastian James (talk) 21:44, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Brawl Stars

Hi Kirilloparma! Is there a specific reason why you changed the describtion of "Brawl Stars" (Q30330493) from "Videospiel […]" to "Computerspiel […]"? "Computerspiel" is not wrong per se, but I think "Videospiel" is a more fitting term in this case; as the word "Computerspiel" is primarely used for video games played on a PC. - SwissChocolateSC (talk) 20:02, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Last Warning

Hallo Kirilloparma, ich war meiner Meinung nach auf der "Spielwiese". Es ist nicht meine Absicht irgendetwas zu zerstören!--Georg Karl Ell (talk) 15:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I apologize, I thought it was Wikidata project page, but that is an sandbox, feel free to edit and test! Sorry for inconvenience again. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 15:51, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Отмена правки

Приветствую. Сайт не работает, поэтому я его удалил, чтобы не висел почём зря в карточке. Сайт с соответствующей пометой я перенёс в раздел ссылок. Так зачем нужно было отменять мою правку? — Prauce Vuette (talk) 19:18, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

@Prauce Vuette: Добрый вечер. Во-первых никакой отмены там нет, а также отсутствует метка об этом. Если бы я даже и отменил, то Вам должно было прийти соответствующее оповещение об этом, будьте внимательней. Во-вторых, совершенно непонятно зачем Вы удалили корректное «утверждение». Если Вы видите, что ссылка на оф.сайт недоступна, то это не значит что её нужно/можно удалять, так как всегда можно прикрепить архивную ссылку (как я это уже собственно и сделал) с датой архивирования. Напоминаю, что на Викиданных непринято удалять просто так ссылки, так как это затронет нe тoлькo русскоязычный раздел, но и другие языковые разделы Википедии, которые используют свойство official website (P856) в карточках. Если Вам нужно было удалить конкретно из русскоязычного раздела, то это делается локально через дефис (пример). С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 20:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Понял. Спасибо за ответ, приму к сведению. — Prauce Vuette (talk) 20:06, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Clash Royale

Hi how are you? My edits in Clash Royale are due to ambiguous and some incorrect terms (for example 'Massively Multiplayer'). According to the description, I translated it from the field in English, since it best describes the game. If I was wrong about something, please let me know. Victorgibby 22:25, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Magic: the Gathering expansion sets are not computer games

Hi, I don't know how all the Magic: the Gathering expansion sets ended up in your list of computer games (компьютерная игра) but they are not. Please be careful to not add the wrong labels next time. - FakirNL (talk) 07:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

@FakirNL: Hello! Thank you for your report and I apologize for inconvenience. Before I set up the batch, I made a query with all the missing descriptions in Russian for video game items, where I put instance and subclass of video game and clearly that is your mistake there, cause I saw that you put here subclass of "expansion pack" that mean also a video game subclass and that's why all that items ended up on my list. You need to remove or replace that incorrect statement to not make it happen again. Today I will make another batch with all corrected descriptions this time to Magic: the Gathering expansion sets, please feel free to contact me for any other questions and sorry for inconvenience again. Regards. Kirilloparma (talk) 11:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

video game expansion pack (Q209163) is a very broad item with English description set as "addition to an existing video game or boardgame", so this item can be many things. Perfectly one should check all the articles there to split them between articles that are purely about computer games/video games and those that are about expansions of any game I think. - FakirNL (talk) 12:19, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Maybe all items found by subclass of "expansion pack" should have a Russian description along the lines of "expansion of a game", not "computer game", that would also help. - FakirNL (talk) 12:24, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

fictional character

May i ask why you use 'instance of' 'fictional character' alongside 'fictional human'? Seems pretty redundant--Trade (talk) 13:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Trade: Yeah, I also think that it's better not to use a fictional character alongside fictional person since it's really needless. This happens to me constantly when I create an element hurriedly and forget that I did something wrong. Basically, you can without the problem remove fictional character element where you consider it necessary. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 19:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Fortnite

Hi. I removed your (troll) contribution to the Fortnite Wikidata because the game is not available on EA's Origin Store. Hakken (talk) 21:45, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

@Hakken: Alright, firt of all, please use more neutral language when you need to clarify something and don't make personal attacks anywhere in Wikidata like you do here on talk page. Secondly, this is not a troll contribution. This particular edit surely wasn't intentional, and yeah, that was a simply mistake by me, BTW thanks for noticing that. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 00:04, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Revert for added fandom.com identifiers in Ellie (Q20715989)

Hi, why did you revert this? These are completely valid and related entries. --Lockal (talk) 11:45, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I do not quite understand why so many links to incomprehensible Wikias were added. Please note that there is already a more general one related to the main topic, so I had to restore old revision back for clarification. In addition, here for example you set up batch incorrectly, which led to duplicate links (diffs [4], [5]) that I had already added some time ago (see [6], [7]). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 21:53, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Dishonored (Q323264)

Hello! I see that you added adventure (Q1436734) (subclass of experience) to the genres of the Dishonored (Q323264) game, was it intentional?. I removed the adventure game (Q23916) earlier thinking it was a duplicate of action-adventure game (Q343568) . --PtiBzh (talk) 17:18, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Golden Joystick Awards 2020 (Q102300180)

Thanks for completing that item! I created it and immediately had something else to attend to − funny going back to it the next day and finding it all filled up :D

Jean-Fred (talk) 09:32, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Jean-Frédéric: You're welcome! Yeah, I decided to fill in the item right after the announcement of the results of Golden Joystick Awards :). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 02:13, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Stadia

If Google Stadia isn't a platform, then PS4 and Steam aren't platforms too. Please stop deleting my valuable (sourced) work of listing games available on Google Stadia. Edoderoo (talk) 10:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

@Edoderoo: Hello. Please check out Google Stadia issue discussion. Currently we do not consider Stadia as platform since it's a cloud-based gaming and distribution service. Stadia shouldn't be considered as a gaming platform like many other cloud gaming services, please see property constraint and it clarification. For cloud-based gaming and subscription services we use more specific property like distributed by (P750) instead (see example and see also full list of the games with correct property). If you'd like to express your point of view on this issue, please join the discussion instead of unconstructively attributing Stadia to platforms. If Google Stadia isn't a platform, then PS4 and Steam aren't platforms too - to be clear, PlayStation 4 is a platform and Steam is not, see why. Please stop deleting my valuable (sourced) work of listing games available on Google Stadia - please see the full list of the games with correct property, you shouldn't be using a platform property. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 11:25, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, I just stop my contribution to this sub-project that seems to be filled with prejudice and anti-Google-hate. Edoderoo (talk) 11:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Computerspiel/Videospiel

Hallo, du hast letztes Jahr bei sämtlichen Videospiel-Objekten die Beschreibung von "Videospiel" in "Computerspiel" geändert. Ich verstehe die Änderung im Rahmen der Einheitlichkeit, aber gibt es einen Grund, warum das Wort "Computerspiel" gewählt wurde? "Videospiel" ist in meinen Augen das besser geeignet Wort, da es PC- wie auch Konsolenspiele einschließt. Computerspiele sind (z.B. laut Definition von Duden sowie Wiktionary) nur Spiele, die an einem PC gespielt werden, Konsolenspiele zählen nicht dazu. Super Mario-Spiele sind nach dieser Definition also keine Computer-, sehr wohl aber Videospiele. Gibt es irgendeine Diskussion, in der das bereits besprochen wurde? --CaptainOlimar42 (talk) 00:29, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

RE VILLAGE

Is not vandalism, please, read the references  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Demetrus PY (talk • contribs) at 14:01, 28 January 2021‎ (UTC).

@Demetrus PY: The only sites that assign age and content ratings for video games are ESRB, PEGI, ACB, USK, OFLCZ ... not the developer's official website, which can only indicate provisional rating for the game. There is currently no rating on the ESRB website (see here), and it will not be available anytime soon as ESRB organization only assigns a rating when the game is nearing release. BTW, on the developer's website, the rating of this particular game is marked only as rating pending for ESRB, so your edits are clearly incorrect. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 14:48, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

If it is not yet officially classified, it is best not to put anything and not empty fields. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2803:2A00:0:6373:8CFF:120A:C0E6:9A16 (talk) 21:19, 23 February 2021

@Hirchivel: Ahhh, now I get it ... So you are LTA sock of this account (aka Demetrus PY, aka Jdkrkdu, aka Eduardley, now aka Hirchivel and many others + ip's ...), right? Before we start a new request for checkuser to block your new account, could you please answer this question: why do you keep vandalizing items (see example) and recreating 1000 other accounts, you have nothing else to do? Stop doing this immediately, otherwise you will be blocked without further discussion. This is the last warning before I start looking for all of your sockpuppet accounts. Enough is enough! Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 01:10, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Why you've removed playstation 4 is instance of home video game console?

• It is model, so it's more likely to be instance rather than subclass.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dovvakkin (talk • contribs) at 17:13, 16 February 2021‎ (UTC).

@Dovvakkin: No, it’s not. We're currently using this scheme for video game console items: subclass of (P279) → home video game console (Q17589470) or handheld game console (Q941818) and instance of (P31) → product model (Q10929058), for more details see here. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 19:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Not vandalism or test was fixing circle i error

please look at this screenshot.

https://github.com/ChiefMikeK/Artworks/raw/main/wikidata/wikidatafeedback2021_04_20.png

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q100394553&oldid=prev&diff=1404617811

Mkouklis(2) (talk) 05:38, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Descriptions

I am here with reference to your message in my talk page. Why some descriptions should begin with lowercase letter essentially? -- TechMentions 07:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

@TechMentions: Please see Help:Description#Capitalization. This is a Wikidata project guideline standard procedure that editors should follow. You should pretend that the description is appearing in the middle of a normal sentence, and then follow normal language rules. Most terms would not be capitalized if they appeared in the middle of a sentence. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 10:20, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok! Got it! — TechMentions 10:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Sequel to Zelda Breath of the Wild

The subtitle is not known yet, but you renamed all of the languages "The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild". Which is a problem because your want to give entry the exact same name as the game this game is the sequel to. That's why it must be kept distingushed until we got a proper subtitle. And also "Sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild" (and all of its languages variations) is the real de facto name temporarily given by Nintendo itself and "The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2" by the whole community  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by LArbreMojo (talk • contribs) at 16:46, 17 July 2021 (UTC).

• @LArbreMojo:  Done. The unconfirmed title has been removed for all languages ​​and renamed for English as untitled The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sequel until the official confirm (per en.wiki article). For other languages that have their own Wikipedia article, the label has been changed per article name respectively. Please note that you have renamed untitled game for all languages as The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 (see your revert) and that's incorrect too as full title is still unknown (see), so please do not change to this title for all languages until the official confirmation. Each language should have its own label, so don't change them. Also note that untitled video game (Q107486718) is a subclass of video game (Q7889), therefore this item is not needed. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 19:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

eFootball (Q97388790)

game trailer as 'certain video ≠ video game Matlin (talk) 21:25, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

No, this is directly related to the video game as it is an announcement trailer (Q65552947) which means a video game advertisement. See the full list of all video games that feature this statement. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 21:59, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

PlayStation Studios

PlayStation Studios и SIE Worldwide Studios это одно и тоже. PlayStation Studios одновременно и бренд и название подразделения. Makoto Ali (talk) 10:14, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

К сожалению это не одно и тоже. PlayStation Studios — это не что иное, как бренд, под которым выпускаются игры разработчиков, а SIE Worldwide Studios никуда не делась, наоборот, компания продолжает жить и существовать. Kirilloparma (talk) 11:13, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Советую вам изучить источники. PlayStation Studios теперь новое название. Название SIE Worldwide Studios исчезло с официального сайта, также перестало упоминаться в СМИ. Также в титрах новых игр от Sony, вместо SIE Worldwide Studios стало написано PlayStation Studios. Можете также изучить этот тред ([8]). Спасибо, надеюсь не нагрузил.

Нет, SIE Worldwide Studios никуда не исчезла, компания до сих пор продолжает существовать и упоминания в АИ есть ([9]). Переименование на ru.wiki — ИМХО поспешное решение, к чему была такая спешка? Более того, насколько я понимаю, Вы повлияли на итог методом канвассинга других участников (см. [10], [11], [12]), так делать не надо. Если Вы хотели, чтобы к обсуждению на КПМ присоединились другие участники, то достаточно было уведомить соответствующий проект или дождаться, пока кто-нибудь проявит интерес к теме. Кстати, я посмотрел несколько источников, проблема в том, что название лишь упоминается. Одного лишь упоминания в заголовках новостных статей и пресс-релизов не достаточно, тем более источники, которые Вы привели в качестве примера на КПМ — не являются авторитетными по игровой тематике, особенно вот эти ([13], [14], [15], [16] + аффилированный источник). Если в источниках даже и упоминается название PlayStation Studios, то тут имеется в виду бренд, под которым выпускаются игры дочерних компаний SIE Worldwide Studios, не более того.

Название SIE Worldwide Studios исчезло с официального сайта, также перестало упоминаться в СМИ. Также в титрах новых игр от Sony, вместо SIE Worldwide Studios стало написано PlayStation Studios. — ещё раз, то, что название SIE Worldwide Studios везде куда-то пропало, вовсе не означает что компании под названием SIE Worldwide Studios больше не существует, наоборот. PlayStation Studios — это не новое название компании, а бренд, запомните это. Тоже самое и с другим игровым брендом EA Sports (Q869106). Возьмём, к примеру, игру FIFA 22 (Q96482598): разработчиком данной игры является EA Vancouver (Q752317), но никак не EA Sports, так как это просто-напросто бренд, под которым выпускаются игры и точка. Kirilloparma (talk) 15:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Ну во первых вы скинули новость за ноябрь 2020 года, оно по-сути устарело. Во вторых я просто попросил тех кого знаю поучаствовать, я их не заставлял со всем соглашаться. В третьих предоставьте хоть один источник на 2021 год после выхода игры Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, где будет упоминаться название SIE Worldwide Studios. В четвертых, студия в Малайзии называется именно PlayStation Studios Malaysia, это я спросил лично в твиттере у главы этой студии(https://twitter.com/mistahasnul/status/1413116464706449412). То есть еще раз, существует студия в названии которой фигурирует PlayStation Studios. В пятых, на сайтах, где выкладывают вакансии, указывается местом работы именно PlayStation Studios(https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/project-manager-playstation-studios-at-playstation-2658244604?refId=9uej0hmDbaMp2kB7XOSYyw%3D%3D&trackingId=teO2TywY%2B6Vx5uFHXKtYhA%3D%3D&trk=public_jobs_topcard-title). Как можно устроится работать в бренд? В шестых, у разработчиков в графе их должности также указано это название (https://www.linkedin.com/in/asad-qizilbash-8115b57, https://twitter.com/hermenhulst). Все таки надо склонятся к тому, что это одновременно бренд и название подразделения. Makoto Ali (talk) 03:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Насчёт EA Sports. EA Vancouver это подразделение EA Sports. Так что сравнение непонятно. И да, EA Sports это одновременно издатель и бренд. Makoto Ali (talk) 03:14, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Еще ссылки, где фигурирует оно, как название подразделения (https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2021/210728.html, https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2021/210701.html, https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2021/210629.html) Makoto Ali (talk) 08:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Начнём с того, что информация из данного источника не устарела, поскольку название компании прежнее. Во вторых я просто попросил тех кого знаю поучаствовать, я их не заставлял со всем соглашаться. — Вы написали примите решение поставив фактически участника перед выбором, поэтому так лучше делать не надо. В третьих предоставьте хоть один источник на 2021 год после выхода игры Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, где будет упоминаться название SIE Worldwide Studios — Вы, очевидно, не понимаете, о чём я писал в предыдущем комментарии. Компания под названием SIE Worldwide Studios никуда не делась, она активно продолжает свою работу только теперь под лейблом PlayStation Studios, но это не название компании. Даже если в источниках и фигурирует название PlayStation Studios, то тут имеется в виду именно бренд, под которым выпускаются игры дочерних компаний SIE Worldwide Studios, не более того. Как можно устроится работать в бренд? — опять же, Вы явно не понимаете, о чём я. Компания, в которую устраиваются работодатели, называется SIE Worldwide Studios, которая, в свою очередь, выступает под брендом PlayStation Studios, вот и всё. Все таки надо склонятся к тому, что это одновременно бренд и название подразделения. — а теперь давайте обсудим.

Имеются ли у Вас железобетонные АИ чтобы подтвердить тот факт, что PlayStation Studios это одновременно бренд и название подразделения? То, что это бренд, подтвердили ещё в 2020 году ([17]), а что насчёт названия? Ответ — о нём ничего неизвестно. Знаете, на самом деле это довольно мутная история, я имею в виду саму компанию Sony. И вот почему. Как Вы правильно сами здесь отметили, название SIE Worldwide Studios исчезло практически везде, но не забывайте тот факт, что сама Sony убрала его что называется, в тихаря и нигде официально не подтвердила, что PlayStation Studios теперь не только бренд, но и новое название нынешней SIE Worldwide Studios. Почему меня беспокоит эта история? Потому что я не верю, чтобы Sony без каких-либо анонсов просто взяла и сменила название своей компании на другое. Кстати, сама Sony до сих пор молчит, а это, может только означать следующее: либо Sony всё же сохранила своё прежнее название компании и выпускает игры исключительно под брендом PlayStation Studios (вариант, которого я придерживаюсь), либо Sony полностью переименовала SIE Worldwide Studios в PlayStation Studios, и теперь это не только бренд, но и название (вариант, который сегодня не подтверждён ни одним источником, и сама Sony просто об этом молчит). Вот именно поэтому я вчера Вас и спросил, к чему была такая спешка на КПМ, если нет хотя бы одного источника, который мог бы подтвердить тот факт, что PlayStation Studios это и бренд, и название подразделения? Вы мне здесь привили гору первичных источников (то есть пресс-релизы Sony и посты в Твиттере), где название лишь упоминается без какой-либо конкретики. Опять таки, как я уже отмечал здесь выше, одного лишь упоминания в заголовках новостных статей, в постах соц.сетей и пресс-релизов не достаточно, нужны надёжные источники, в которых подтверждается данный факт, однако на сегодняшний день их нет.

Поэтому ещё раз, но только вкратце: тот факт, что название SIE Worldwide Studios куда-то пропало, не означает, что компании под этим названием больше не существует. Всяческие упоминания о названии PlayStation Studios в источниках также абсолютно ничего не меняет, поскольку нет никаких доказательств того, что PlayStation Studios сегодня является одновременно брендом и названием подразделения. Подводя итог: PlayStation Studios это бренд? Ответ — Да. PlayStation Studios это новое название SIE Worldwide Studios? Ответ — скорее нет, чем да, поскольку Sony нигде этого не подтвердила и молчит + нет надёжных источников, название PlayStation Studios только упоминается, но недостаточно освещается. Вот почему SIE Worldwide Studios не следует путать с PlayStation Studios, поскольку на данный момент — это не одно и тоже. Думаю, что всё же стоит дождаться официального заявления от Sony, поверьте, со временем всё может проясниться и спешить сейчас некуда. Кстати, на других интервиках придерживаются того же мнения, например, на en.wiki также считают, что SIE Worldwide Studios и PlayStation Studios — это разные вещи пример + данное пояснение. Kirilloparma (talk) 22:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Да, согласен в тем, что официально они не заявляли о смене названия, но не находите странным, что они с анонсом бренда это всё и имели ввиду. Типо зачем сохранять название SIE Worlwide Studios, если есть уже более лаконичное название PlayStation Studios, то-бишь студии PlayStation. Я тогда подумал что чисто для бренда это название они вряд ли будут использовать. Насчёт Во вторых я просто попросил тех кого знаю поучаствовать, я их не заставлял со всем соглашаться., я бы хотел чтобы вы в этом треде прочитали дальше, я ошибся по поводу формулировок, но я согласен, пинговать было плохой идеей. "Кстати, на других интервиках придерживаются того же мнения, например, на en.wiki также считают, что SIE Worldwide Studios и PlayStation Studios — это разные вещи" это к сожалению не аргумент и не думаю что стоит на них ссылаться. У того же главы SIE Worldwide Studios, написано в твиттере что он глава Head of PlayStation Studios. Также вы забыли упомянуть про "В четвертых, студия в Малайзии называется именно PlayStation Studios Malaysia, это я спросил лично в твиттере у главы этой студии(https://twitter.com/mistahasnul/status/1413116464706449412). То есть еще раз, существует студия в названии которой фигурирует PlayStation Studios.". Как можно это объяснить? В общем правда странная ситуация. Вы кстати можете проверить статью полностью и сказать что не так, поправлю. Но насчёт переименованного названия - пусть оно остаётся, потому что тут нет никакого введения в заблуждения. Makoto Ali (talk) 03:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi ! Just wanted to thank you for checking, correcting and improving my last contributions, especially on Q27950674 and Q2066948 ! I'm a beginner on Wikidata, so I'm still discovering how it all works. Sincerely. — Aymeric50800 08:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome. Feel free to contact me on my talk page if you have any questions. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 16:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Издатель

К сожалению Sony не является издателем игры Abandoned. Это с самого начала была моя ошибка. Думаю пока стоит убрать, так как не ясно что это за игра такая) Я думаю вы слышали слухи о ней. Makoto Ali (talk) 03:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Источники говорят об обратном ([18]). Кроме того, по словам данного геймдизайнера, Blue Box Game Studios (Q106418737) напрямую сотрудничает с Sony ещё с 2015 года ([19]), поэтому я пока не могу подтвердить, что они не являются издателем игры Abandoned. Думаю стоит дождаться дальнейшего развития событий, поскольку Sony всё же имеет какое-то отношение к этой игре. Kirilloparma (talk) 11:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Партнерство и издательство это разные вещи. Сони поддерживает многие инди игры при помощи проекта "PlayStation Indies", но не является их издателем. Да, с этой игрой странная ситуация, то ли это рекламная компания игры Кодзимы, то ли это просто инди-игра, которую почему то помогает делать аутсорс студия ААА игр. Но я все равно пока думаю издателя убрать. Makoto Ali (talk) 05:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Во-первых, насколько я понимаю, Abandoned не является частью проекта PlayStation Indies, поэтому невозможно подтвердить, что это вообще инди-игра. Во-вторых, принимая во внимание имеющиеся источники, я предлагаю пока ничего не убирать и дождаться дальнейших подробностей, связанных с этой игрой. Если Вы нехотите чтобы параметр издателя отображался на ру.вики, то просто поставьте дефис рядом с параметром, то есть |издатель = -. Kirilloparma (talk) 21:11, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Windows 11

Hello Kirilloparma! I have a question. Why do you revert my changes to the Windows 11 Release-Date? It was released at Otober 4th. I added an official reference source: https://docs.microsoft.com/de-de/lifecycle/products/windows-11-home-and-pro-version-21h2 --2A00:6020:4315:5E00:1C63:D554:AFE5:EA3 21:32, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Please note that the global version of Windows 11 was released on October 5, not October 4. This is also mentioned on en.wiki for example. Microsoft officially released Windows 11 on October 4, 2021 at 2:00 p.m. PT, which was October 5 in parts of the world – this means that Windows 11 was released on October 4 only in certain countries, while globally it was released on October 5, so the correct release date is October 5, which is also confirmed by many reliable sources, including The Verge, which you removed without any good reason. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 21:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

I think, that October 5th is for public relations today, but October 4th we will read in lifecycle documents like my source for the next ten years--2A00:6020:4315:5E00:1C63:D554:AFE5:EA3 21:46, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

October 5th is a global release date and it also confirmed by Microsoft itself see [20] and [21]. Today marks an exciting milestone in the history of Windows. As the day becomes October 5 in each time zone around the world, availability of Windows 11 begins through a free upgrade on eligible Windows 10 PCs ... See also other reliable sources like: Tom's Hardware, CNET, TechCrunch, Tom's Guide, Engadget, PC Gamer, Windows Central, Rock Paper Shotgun, Tech Advisor, TechRadar etc. Unfortunately, I don't see any mention about October 4th anywhere. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 22:19, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata:WikiProject Russia

Добрый вечер! Приглашаю вас в проект Викиданных о России. Вы сможете полноценно содействовать созданию свойств и лексем, связанных с Россией - впереди очень много работы. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 19:16, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your feedback. I usually use Wikipedia on computer but my computer has broken so I use Wikipedia on smartphone and I don't know that. I will edit again so wait a minute (I have done very much, and I don't good at English ;-;). CrossEF (talk) 14:23, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Keep "nominated for" AND "award received" ?

Hi Kirilloparma ! Thank you for adding Video Game Awards 2021 winners. I see that you removed all nominated for (P1411) properties for all winners. Shouldn't we keep them ? I think those games are both nominated and winners. We should keep history about when they got nominated as well. Floyd-out (talk) 09:16, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

@Floyd-out: Hi. Nominees and winners are different things. When a game wins an award, it is automatically considered as the winner and the game that was nominated for that award remains as the nominee. A game cannot win an award and be nominated at the same time as this is only confusing and unclear if the game won or not. Therefore, no, we shouldn't keep both properties. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 07:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Unstucking Wikidata:Property_proposal/N64-Database_ID

Hey there,

Since you chimed in at Wikidata:Property_proposal/Nintendo64EVER_ID, would you mind having a look at Wikidata:Property_proposal/N64-Database_ID as well ? :)

Thanks! Jean-Fred (talk) 21:32, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jean-Frédéric: Hi. Sure! It's strange that the ping didn't go through for me and I didn't see this proposal. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 13:55, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Latvian articles Xbox

Hi, please add the Latvian articles

1. Xbox (konsole) to Wikipedia in Xbox (Q132020)
2. Xbox to Wikipedia in Xbox (Q15281614)

Thank you in advance! Dejelnieks (talk) 21:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

@Dejelnieks:  Done [22], [23]. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 22:30, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property proposal/Absolute Games developer and publisher IDs 2, Wikidata:Property proposal/PlayGround.ru ID

Добрый вечер! Вижу, что вы очень активно работаете с Викиданными в плане компьютерных игр. Вы бы не могли высказаться по поводу этих свойств Викиданных? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:08, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury:  Done. Kirilloparma (talk) 16:36, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Обновление версии игры

Привет! Насколько я понимаю, в таких случаях нужно не заменять одну версию на другую, а добавлять новое значение и давать ему предпочтительный ранг. Поскольку software version identifier (P348) -- это "версия", а не "последняя версия", там в идеале должны быть перечислены все версии программы с датами выпуска и источниками. Facenapalm (talk) 16:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

@Facenapalm: Да, верно подмечено. На Викиданных желательно хранить любые валидные данные, даже если элемент со временем станет довольно громоздким (пример такого элемента), так что да, я абсолютно с тобой согласен и чуть позже восстановлю предыдущие версии, которые были добавлены для этого элемента. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 23:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Круто, спасибо! Facenapalm (talk) 23:51, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

@Facenapalm:  Done. Здесь. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 02:50, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Proposals

As much as i appreciate your contributions would you and MasterRus21thCentury mind slowing the property proposals down? It's getting a bit overwhelming --Trade (talk) 01:47, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Trade: I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand the reason for this request. Something happened? If you wanted to know if there would be a new proposals by me in the near future, then my answer is yes. As for the proposals of MasterRus21th Century, it is his right to create new proposals, I see no reason why he cannot create them exactly like me. By the way, what's wrong with property proposals? Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 02:16, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Calm down, Kirilloparma. You are taking it personal--Trade (talk) 02:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

If you still don't understand, the more pages there are at Category:Properties ready for creation, the less motivated people are to created properties because they find the amount overwhelming. --Trade (talk) 02:42, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Trade: >> Calm down, Kirilloparma. You are taking it personal. Sorry?

>> If you still don't understand, the more pages there are at Category:Properties ready for creation, the less motivated people are to created properties because they find the amount overwhelming. Alright, but what is my fault here? As far as I know, there is no guideline on Wikidata that prohibits the frequent creation of new proposals, or am I missing something? If you are talking about the fact that this category is often full of properties ready for creation, then I did nothing wrong here and this is not my fault. If you think that my proposals are overwhelming, then you have nothing to worry about since I can always wait for another property creator to consider my proposal. By the way, I think that soon I will make a request for property creator right as I would be glad to help other property creators with this backlog. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:35, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks that would be appreciated --Trade (talk) 21:41, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property proposal/TASS Encyclopedia ID, Wikidata:Property proposal/Chuvash Encyclopedia ID, Wikidata:Property proposal/Encyclopedia of Transbaikalia ID

Доброе утро! Вы бы не могли разобраться с этими свойствами Викиданных? Более того с ними не так просто. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:04, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Элементы Викиданных о российских компьютерных сайтах

Привет! Я решил на время завязать с созданием новых свойств Викиданных ввиду моей активной деятельности этой осенью-зимой 2021-2022 годов, поэтому прошу тебя помочь с созданием элементов о российских компьютерных сайтах по следующему списку - https://gamesisart.ru/igrovye_sayty_rus.html MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Привет. К сожалению, я затрудняюсь сказать, нужны ли нам сайты из этого списка или нет, так как не все они значимы. Есть также много сайтов, которые я вижу впервые, хотя некоторые из них имеют полезную базу данных. Единственный сайт, который здесь однозначно стоит отметить, это украинский Gamer-Info, про остальные пока ничего не могу сказать.

P.S. Я считаю, что на данный момент у нас есть почти все свойства для самых используемых и надёжных русскоязычных сайтов компьютерных игр и, на мой взгляд, этого вполне достаточно. Предлагаю сейчас поработать с уже существующими свойствами и постепенно их наполнять. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 03:06, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

А вот вы бы не поработали с другими идентификаторами Викиданных, как социальные сети, тематические сайты по кино, спорту? Хотя также имеется потенциал по свойствам Викиданных из постсоветских стран, прежде всего Средней Азии, где потенциал не раскрыт, Закавказья (по Армении потенциал раскрыт практически полностью), Белоруссии, Молдавии и Прибалтики? По некоторым российским регионам потенциал тоже достаточно велик, также можно исходить из w:ru:Категория:Шаблоны:Внешние ссылки, где потенциал ещё с запасом. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

А вот вы бы не поработали с другими идентификаторами Викиданных, как социальные сети, тематические сайты по кино, спорту? С другими поработать могу, но ничего не обещаю, поскольку сейчас я буду очень занят игровой тематикой. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 23:06, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Что касаемо игровых идентификаторов, то по возможности добивайтесь их включения в шаблон Внешние ссылки на их странице обсуждения. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 09:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Да, давно пора. Некоторые идентификаторы для игр уже имеют более тысячи включений и пришло время добавить их в этот шаблон, что непременно будет сделано. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 03:03, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Q111223304

I've made a new item. You probably know better when to use it than i do. --Trade (talk) 23:11, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for this item! Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 23:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Cybersport.ru game ID (P10501)

Привет, коллега! Ты бы не мог проверить, правильно я ли сделал своё первое свойство Викиданных? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 08:01, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Привет! Для первого раза отлично, спасибо за свойство! С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 10:40, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

По возможности помоги с State Heraldic Register of the Russian Federation ID (P10502) и Discover Moscow ID (P10504), так как по второму нет маски URL. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury: Привет! Хм ... Да, я помогу с этими свойствами, но ты вкурсе того, что нельзя создавать свойства, которые ты сам предложил? Обрати внимание, что в данном случае оба свойства должны были быть созданы только другим создателем свойств. Мой совет: ещё раз внимательно прочитай Wikidata:Property creation и убедитесь, что все критерии соблюдены, прежде чем создавать новое свойство. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 18:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Тогда я понял - собственные свойства больше сам создавать не буду. Уж слишком поспешил в этом деле... Также прошу помочь с переводом страницы на русский язык, поскольку сейчас только трое участников Викиданных из русской Википедии обладают флагом создателя свойств. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:30, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Свойство Викиданных о футболе

Привет! Ты бы не помог с Ligue 2 player ID (P10508), поскольку предложивший свойство участник предоставил недостаточно данных? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:24, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury:  Done. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 17:53, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

У меня ещё вышло географическое свойство eBru ID (P10517) - вся та же причина, недостаток данных. При этом же первое значение включает в себя церкви, улицы, площади Брюссельского столичного региона Бельгии. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 08:13, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 21:53, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Просьба

Привет. Ты бы не мог подвести итог по Wikidata:Property proposal/TASS Encyclopedia ID и Wikidata:Property proposal/Encyclopedia of Transbaikalia ID? Здесь консенсус достигнут. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:02, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Legal entity registered by the Ministry of Culture of the Czech Republic ID (P10519)

Доброе утро. Ты бы мне не помог с устранением неполадок в свойстве? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done. Нет, здесь я помочь не могу, так как у меня не открываются ссылки на этот сайт. Попробуй обратиться к участнику, предложившему это свойство. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 21:53, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Сейчас участник, который свойство предложил, исправил ошибки. У меня ещё просьба помочь с Zvuk artist ID (P10524), так как свойство стоит на обсуждении шаблона Внешние ссылки в русской Википедии. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 05:54, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury:  Done. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 10:58, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Booking.com numeric ID (P10532), Agoda hotel numeric ID (P10533)

Привет. Ты бы не помог с дозаполнением этих свойств? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury:  Done. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 15:31, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

KSH code (historical) (P10559)

Привет. Ты бы не помог с этим свойством ввиду недостатка данных? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 22:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury:  Done. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

По возможности прошу проверить SPLC group ID (P10562), GuideStar India Organisations ID (P10563), так как тоже недостаток данных может иметься. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 08:18, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury:  Done. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 16:21, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Twitch category ID (P4467)

Hello! Could you explain why you rewrote Twitch category ID (P4467) and are removing this property from a variety of items? Twitch long ago diversified away from just being about video games, and the directory at https://www.twitch.tv/directory (which is what source website for the property (P1896) should be set to) specifically calls them "category" rather than "games", which adds to my confusion. Thanks! — Huntster (t @ c) 12:21, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

@Huntster: Hello! Unfortunately, this property has a different purpose. According to the original proposal, the property should be called "Twitch game ID" (was changed later to "Twitch category ID" by AntisocialRyan wihout any discussion) and its main area of application – video game items (video games and video game series, to be exact). If we want to expand the scope of a property (or at least make some exceptions), then this should be discussed first. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 13:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Makes sense, I just hate seeing useful links being removed from items because of a nebulous technicality. I'll write up some kind of brief proposal on the talk page. — Huntster (t @ c) 16:44, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Cameroun COG (P10581), Author ID from the Modern Discussion website (P10582)

Привет. Ты бы не помог со свойствами? В обоих недостаточно сведений, во втором - я не знаю арабский язык. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:08, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury:  Done. С уважением Kirilloparma (talk) 22:59, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Сейчас у меня All.Rugby club ID (P10590), traveloka restaurant ID (P10591), maPZS trails/locations ID (P10592), так как авторы предоставили недостаточно данных. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 17:31, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Проверка свойств Викиданных

Привет. Ты бы не проверил XJustiz court ID (P10603), type of a register in Germany (P10604), FID performing arts ID (P10608), PLOS Thesaurus ID (P10609), number of teachers (P10610), has certification (P10611), choreography for (P10612)? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Проверка свойств

Привет. Я в последнее время стал подводить немало итогов по новым свойствам Викиданных, однако опытные участники не успевают их посмотреть. Поэтому прошу проверить следующие свойства: XJustiz court ID (P10603), type of a register in Germany (P10604), FID performing arts ID (P10608), PLOS Thesaurus ID (P10609), number of teachers (P10610), has certification (P10611), choreography for (P10612), P10613 (P10613), has surface (P10614), QQ Music album ID (P10615), QQ Music track ID (P10616), Beatport track ID (P10617), Salzburger Literatur Netz ID (P10618), Kramerius of Regional Library in Pardubice UUID (P10619), Literatur Netz Oberösterreich ID (P10620), 1905.com star ID (P10621), per capita income (P10622), number of blood donors (P10623), official observer status in organisation (P10624). MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 16:44, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Category:Properties ready for creation

Добрый вечер! Вы бы не могли подвести итоги по свойствам Викиданных, собранных в данную категорию? В одиночку мне их создать будет очень трудно. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

CNGAL entry ID (P10633)

Привет! Ты бы не помог с этим свойством? Данных было предоставлено недостаточно. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property proposal/OBD Memorial ID

Привет. Поздравляю тебя с наступающим Днём Великой Победы! Ты бы не мог подвести итог по данному свойству? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 04:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

rvv

If you don't understand an edit, don't just call it vandalism out of laziness. Feel free to delete this, I won't be watching for any replies. ActivelyDisinterested (talk) 11:38, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@ActivelyDisinterested: This edit of yours was pure data blanking, so it was reverted. Since you wrote to me, could you please explain why you're removing a valid data from Wikidata? Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 19:47, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Automatching P11072

With regards to https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/catalog/5481, I think it'd be possible to follow each URL in the dataset and then look for the corresponding eShop ID in Wikidata to auto-match them. There are currently 3126 uses of Nintendo eShop ID (P8084) in Wikidata. I'm not sure how many of those are Switch games, but we could still probably add a decent number of Nintendo Switch title ID (P11072) to game records with this methodology. If you think that's a viable option, I can have my bot perform those edits. Nicereddy (talk) 14:14, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

@Nicereddy: Hi. Yes, I think it's a good idea! Here is a list of all the Nintendo Switch games we currently have. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 02:18, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I'll put together a script sometime in the next few days. Nicereddy (talk) 03:20, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

You are welcome! Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

I've written and run the script, it added around 2000 Nintendo Switch Title IDs to Wikidata. It didn't get all of them since there were a decent number that weren't in the titles ID dump from Mix'n'match - and I had a sanity check where I verified that the name of the game on the eShop matched the name of the game on Wikidata - but it got a lot of them.

Tell me if you see anything weird in the data!

Best, Nicereddy (talk) 01:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

@Nicereddy: Great, thanks for this script! If I find something weird I will let you know. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:57, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Civilization V: Gods & Kings (Q2418673)

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part of the series (P179) - Civilization (Q1868663) ≠ part of (P361) - Civilization V (Q2385)

Matlin (talk) 11:47, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Matlin: At first I thought you were using part of (P361) instead of part of the series (P179), but now I see that you used this property here to indicate that Civilization V (Q2385) has addons, which is wrong way to do that. You must not use part of (P361) property here. For video game addons we usually use more specific property like expansion of (P8646) (which is already indicated) rather than part of (P361), so this statement is incorrect. FYI see also Wikidata:WikiProject Video games#Properties for relationships to other works and Wikidata:WikiProject Video games#Properties for expansion packs / DLCs. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:21, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Stay out of my territory

I'm kidding, I'm having fun competing to get these new games created before you :) Enjoy the show! Nicereddy (talk) 02:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

The Crew Motorfest

Just so you know, I changed "Steam" to "Epic Games Store" as Ubisoft has not said anything about the game being published on Steam but instead the Epic Games Store. Blaze Wolf (talk) 15:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf: Hi! Yeah, thank you for noticing my mistake and correcting the statement! I have now added an ID for the Epic Games Store (Q59510068). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 18:05, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Привет. Ты бы не мог помочь мне улучшить элементы Викиданных о компьютерных играх, созданных по мотивам High School Musical? О них очень мало данных, поскольку так или иначе я шаблон на эту тему вынес в кандидаты на работу недели в Русской Википедии с 22 по 28 мая 2023 года. — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Q467374

Moved to Talk:Q467374 § eFootball is not part of the Pro Evolution Soccer (PES) series): Let's move to the talk page then. Kirilloparma (talk) 06:00, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Steam Deck verified

Just noticed toolforge:editgroups/b/OR/783c3f922bb, nice one :) Jean-Fred (talk) 07:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

@Jean-Frédéric: Thank you! By the way, I also plan to match games with a playable (Q117413405) rating, as well as games that are not compatible with Steam Deck. We don't have the inverse property yet, but it has already been proposed and is currently under discussion, see Wikidata:Property proposal/not compatible with. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 01:01, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

software version identifiers movement from Flipboard (Q1168317)

Good day,

What is the reason you repeatedly moved the "software version identifiers" from https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1168317 to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108678871 instead of copying the data to Q108678871?

The effect of your actions is that on https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flipboard now is not showing what software is available.

By the way: Q108678871 seems to be quite useless, since it is not used anywhere.

Sincerely: Ad Verburg (talk) 07:07, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

@Ad Verburg: Thank you for bringing this to my attention. In our case it's all about the constraint of these two properties. As you can see, items that have one of these properties conflict with other items that have instance of (P31)website (Q35127) statement and that's why a separate item (see constraint clarification) is required for that, which makes sense. Using App Store app ID (P3861)/Google Play Store app ID (P3418) property in Flipboard (Q1168317) wouldn't be the right approach.

The fact that this item is useless/not used anywhere is not true, since it is actually used as a value for official app (P4290) property. The software versions that you add are strictly related to mobile app, not its website, which is why they are constantly being moved from one item to another. From what I understood with the help of a translator, the nlwiki article describes exactly the app, not the website (which is good), so the ideal solution here is to move the sitelink to this item, so you will have software versions from Wikidata displayed again.

By the way, this constraint was introduced by @Trade, maybe he can better explain how best to deal with it and why we model items this way. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 01:29, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc

Hello, PS5 and Xbox Series X is not Normal Blu-ray discs. This is the new disc called "Ultra HD Blu-ray Disc" 60.53.7.114 01:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

@60.53.7.114: Hello. I'm not sure what you mean by this request, but if you mean specifying the distribution format, then Ultra HD Blu-ray (Q19953724) is too specific in this case. It would be better to limit the specification to Blu-ray Disc (Q47770) or just optical disc (Q234870) instead. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:31, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

This UHD-BD is add 「100gb」. 2001:E68:63E4:F600:A0FD:2D6F:F01C:957 01:29, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Q118143124

I made some changes to your item and could use some feedback Trade (talk) 02:50, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

I have noticed some duplicate statements like this one, but everything else seems fine. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Идентификаторы российских политиков

Добрый вечер! Вы бы не могли составить Mix'x'match каталоги для свойств Викиданных для депутатов Госдумы и российских сенаторов? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:40, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Typo in desc

Hello! Could you update "be" entry in User:Kirilloparma/autoEditLists.js to fix the typo, according to Wikidata:Bot_requests/Archive/2023/08 — "камп’ютарная гульня XXXX года", not году? Thanks! -Framawiki (please notify !) (talk) 16:52, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

@Framawiki: Sure, see Special:Diff/1979119511. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 00:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property proposal/Demo

Could you respond back please? Trade (talk) 15:21, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Can i get a support vote now that i changed the proposal as you asked? Trade (talk) 19:15, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 00:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

eJay (Q285150)

Hi Kirilloparma,

do you speak German? Have you read the German article?--U. M. Owen (talk) 20:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@U. M. Owen: If you think the description should be tweaked, you have the right to do so, but this is not done by deliberately reverting participant's edits and deleting the description altogether. In other words: to change the description, you need to find a pencil icon in the upper right corner and the word "edit" then click on the language you want to edit the description in, not go to the edit history of a particular item and purposely look for users' nicknames to undo their edits and completely remove the description just like that. This is unconstructive behavior, not an improvement. Please refrain from such edits in the future, otherwise a request to the administrators is inevitable. Also, please fully familiarize yourself with Help:Label (in German), Help:Description (in German) and Help:Aliases (in German). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 20:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

ru short descriptions

Thanks for your note on my talk page; it is much appreciated. I posted my reply there, and I look forward to connecting. cheers! Floyd23 (talk) 22:47, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

SerialStation

Thanks for importing the UUID MnM catalog! This finally motivated me enough to migrate the digits→UUID using the mapping the site owner gave me… back in 2021 ^_^' Jean-Fred (talk) 20:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jean-Frédéric: You're welcome! I should have uploaded this catalog a long time ago, but I just haven't had the time. Now finally got the opportunity to do so. By the way, thanks for migrating the outdated format IDs to UUIDs. :)

P.S. Since we've stopped using numeric identifiers now, I think it's better to deactivate the previous catalog, can you do that? Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:15, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Sure, old catalog is now disabled ; and the migration finished overnight too :)

Also, because we don’t say these things enough: thank you for everything you do here on Wikidata. I very often see your name pop-up − on the project Log, elsewhere on my watchlist, on the MnM new catalogs, etc. − and it’s always cool work. Thanks! Jean-Fred (talk) 09:29, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, thank you very much! I appreciate it. :) Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 07:41, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Video game project

I don't think you can complain about being the only one removing it when you make a point of updating every video game item upon their release. If you don't want to then just wait a few hours and I'll do it. Or maybe nominate the item for deletion. Per Wikidata talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive/2022#Video game vs Video game project, I only use it because it already exists. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:32, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Xezbeth: Hi! Well, of course I have the right to complain since it's true, I'm the only one right now who removes video game project (Q64170203) right after the game is released and I have never seen you even hours, days or months after the game is released remove that statement from the item. The only thing I've seen so far is video game project (Q64170203) being added en masse without any updates. Honestly, I'm tired of this situation and clearly need some help.

As to me this statement is really redundant as no one except me unfortunately cares to remove it, this was also pointed out here by Nicereddy: "might be useful for games that aren't released yet, but it seems overkill to me, and the games will end up with an "outdated" instance of value once they actually reach their release date. I don't know if the distinction is particularly worth the trouble, honestly." Nicereddy turned out to be right, as that distinction is really not worth it. Here's an example: you have added video game project (Q64170203) to this item, and the game itself has been out for a while, but instance of (P31) >> video game project (Q64170203) is still there. Another example: on September 9, 2022 you added instance of (P31) >> video game project (Q64170203) and this statement again was removed only by me a few months after the game was released, this just confirms that you don't monitor updates and I'm the only one who removes this statement... Another one: statement added but was only removed by me a few months after the game was released and so on Special:Diff/1719213086, Special:Diff/1923244334. Question: what is the actual purpose of adding video game project (Q64170203) en masse if then no one besides me bothers to remove it after the game was released?

I can't handle this all by myself and I can't spend that much time on updates, so if you're adding video game project (Q64170203) en masse then please be kind to help remove it after the game is released, otherwise please don't add it to items anymore from now on. It's also important to note that if things don't change, I will start slowly removing Q64170203 for video games that haven't been released yet. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 05:37, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Twitter/X rank deprecation

Hi there, as you can see with this query: https://w.wiki/82X2 Twitter profile links are generally marked deprecated when they have been marked inactive by the account holder.--Eloquence (talk) 19:12, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Eloquence: Hi! I would say it's an improper practice. According to Help:Ranks#Deprecated rank we never deprecate data if it was once correct, in our case it is historical information/data. Deprecated ranks are only used when we are sure that the inserted data was never correct, which is definitely not the case here, because the account was used at some point and there is clearly no need to deprecate it. In other words: by specifying the deprecated rank here, we are saying that this Twitter account was never correct, even though this is absolutely not the case, since it was used at some point. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 05:37, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Kirilloparma: That's a fair point, but there seems to be a much larger issue then in how deprecation is used. If you look at Help:Deprecation/List of Reasons for Deprecation you'll see a few "reasons for deprecation" which seem to directly conflict with that description. For example, we find Q111678787 (suspended accounts) and Q11381163 (dormant accounts). I'll raise that over on the policy talk page.--Eloquence (talk)

Yes, this is definitely a great idea, however I would suggest also open a thread in WD:PC to get more attention on this matter. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 03:13, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Одобрение свойств

Добрый вечер! Поздравляю Вас с наступлением зимы! Однако у меня к вам большая просьба - разобрать список свойств, которые я предложил сообществу несколько месяцев назад:

1. Wikidata:Property proposal/Moscow Cultural Heritage ID
2. Wikidata:Property proposal/Cultural Heritage Azerbaijan ID
3. Wikidata:Property proposal/Walt Disney movie ID
4. Wikidata:Property proposal/Athletic Bilbao profile ID
5. Wikidata:Property proposal/Ukrainian Cultural Heritage ID
6. Wikidata:Property proposal/COSL profile ID
7. Wikidata:Property proposal/DEL player ID
8. Wikidata:Property proposal/WKF ranking ID
9. Wikidata:Property proposal/LFG player ID
10. Wikidata:Property proposal/BDFutbol manager ID 2
11. Wikidata:Property proposal/BDFutbol referee ID
12. Wikidata:Property proposal/Baseball-Reference.com manager ID
13. Wikidata:Property proposal/USOPC Hall of Fame ID
14. Wikidata:Property proposal/TV Guide movie ID
15. Wikidata:Property proposal/Legends Tour ID
16. Wikidata:Property proposal/Cycling Archives race ID
17. Wikidata:Property proposal/Filmweb.no ID

--MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 14:23, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Top scorer

Ciao, una cortesia: ma questa proposta è visibile-correttamente inserita? Perché è da luglio che non ha alcun feedback e ho il sospetto che sia stata mal compilata. -- Blackcat 12:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

What is the purpose of this edit?

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q628858&curid=591440&diff=2026555846&oldid=2026555843

Thanks, Swpb (talk) 20:42, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

@Swpb: The source is added in case there are questions about the provided statement. That is, someone who is curious or has doubts about the added statement (in our case, qualifier P12208) can check the reference and understand why a particular example was provided in the proposal. If someone disagrees with such a statement, that person can seek clarification directly from the proposer or any other user involved in the discussion. From a general point of view, the source here serves as a hint as to where a particular statement was taken from. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:40, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Ok. I guess what I'm wondering is 1) is this within the standard use of Wikimedia import URL (P4656) and 2) do you intend to add this reference statement to all statements using counterexample (P12208)? Why can't someone curious about the property proposal just find the link to it on counterexample (P12208) itself? Swpb (talk) 14:11, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

1. To indicate where the statement for a property was taken from, yes, it is used, although obviously optional. By the way, if I'm not mistaken, there is a PropertyCreator.js tool that adds such references by default.
2. No no no, references are only added for examples from the proposal itself. As I said earlier, they serve as a hint. Someone (like me) indicates them, someone else not, it is completely optional. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 06:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Help

Could you go to ThatOtherPerson (Q124053154) and tell me if the URLs listed under the exact match (P2888) section works on your end? I have a suspicion the problem might just be with my internet Trade (talk) 17:34, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@Trade: Hi! Sure, I checked and out of all 10 links, only this fifth one works for me, all the others don't work or redirect where it shouldn't. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 04:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

New York Times Connections

Hello Kirilloparma, I'm wondering about this revert on The New York Times Connections (Q122207315). I had changed the name here for consistency with The New York Times Spelling Bee (Q108208395) and The New York Times crossword puzzle (Q3325327). In all three cases, the English Wikipedia article includes "New York Times" in its name – as does the article for The New York Times Games (Q124287090). What's your logic? (I'm not wed to this either way, but I like consistency so I've been working to unify the content and format of the whole group of related articles on en:wp.) Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:30, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cl3phact0: Hello. Your edit was reverted not because of a label change, but because of improper use of instance of (P31) property. Please look carefully at the statement you added here, and this is not only specific to this item (se also [25], [26]). You are using instance of (P31) >> word game (Q15220419), which is not correct, because it is a genre of a subject, not an instance of it. There is a separate property for genres, and that's the property that should be used. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 02:00, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. If the label "New York Times Connections" is acceptable, then can we reapply this to the item? I will also review the additional info about genres/instances/etc., and come back to you if any further questions (if that's ok). Apologies for any mistake(s) I may have inadvertently made. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cl3phact0: No worries. Yes, you can re-apply the suggested label. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 00:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Thanks, Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)