Wikidata:Property proposal/Moscow Cultural Heritage ID

Moscow Cultural Heritage ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Done: Moscow Cultural Heritage ID (P12284) (Talk and documentation)

Description	cultural heritage identifier in the Moskomnaslediya database
Represents	Department of Cultural Heritage of Moscow (Q4158545)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	Q22849211
Domain	cultural heritage site in Russia (Q8346700) in Moscow (Q649)
Example 1	Biblioteka Imeni Lenina (Q586295) → 7657409
Example 2	Lubyanka Building (Q646334) → 2954636
Example 3	Solovetsky Stone (Q4427945) → 7683116
Source	https://data.mos.ru/opendata/530
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	8329
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://data.mos.ru/opendata/530?objectId=$1&filter=global_id+=+$1
Robot and gadget jobs	import from ru.wikipedia
See also	kulturnoe-nasledie.ru ID (P1483), EGROKN ID (P5381)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Department of Cultural Heritage of Moscow (Q4158545)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Russia, Cultural heritage

Motivation edit

The Russian capital has its own database of cultural heritage, distinct from the national one. Most of Moscow's cultural heritage sites on this list are not included in the general list of Russia's cultural heritage, as stated in the Wikipedia databases. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:57, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Stolbovsky (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
Notified participants of WikiProject Russia —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Kareyac (talk) 07:19, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Question: вы за или против? MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 08:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Kareyac (talk) 13:39, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Beat Estermann (talk) 22:21, 31 March 2017 (UTC) Beireke1 (talk) Beireke1 (talk) 12:07, 2 May 2017 (UTC) - collaborating with Romaine on Belgian data on performing arts venues. Affom (talk) 15:26, 12 May 2017 (UTC) Anvilaquarius (talk) 11:41, 15 September 2017 (UTC) PEAk99(talk) PEAK99 (talk) 20:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC) Boxomi (talk) 22:21, 24 September 2019 (UTC) Antoine2711 (talk) 00:19, 5 December 2019 (UTC) Fjjulien (talk) 21:15, 13 February 2020 (UTC) Vero Marino (talk) 21:15, 13 February 2020 (UTC) Bello Na'im (talk) 08:34, 24 September 2021 (UTC) Titanboo (talk) 17:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC) dlh28 (talk)18:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Notified participants of WikiProject Cultural venues,
Beat Estermann (talk) 23:00, 31 March 2017 (UTC) Antoine2711 (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2020 (UTC) Mathieu Kappler (talk) 11:48, 6 September 2021 (UTC) Fjjulien Fjjulien (talk) 19:38, 29 April 2022 (UTC) Zblace (talk) 10:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Notified participants of WikiProject Cultural events —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:36, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --Erokhin (talk) 22:37, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am unable to check the data.mos.ru website. It is taking too long to respond. Unless I can check what kind of records it holds and how they are documented, I'm unable to comment on this proposal. Fjjulien (talk) 02:50, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The site still doesn't respond. Since it is a government site, it wouldn't surprise me that they block foreign access as long as there is a military conflict going on. But with over 8000 heritags items chances are it's a good site. I'm going to put it on hold for now. Infrastruktur (talk) 23:58, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, so it's been confirmed the site works. This can be created now, but by someone who can access the site preferably. Infrastruktur (talk) 07:28, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @MasterRus21thCentury: Since the structure of the site has changed and because of this the links in the examples redirect to the main page, we will have to change the current formatter URL. It should be changed from https://data.mos.ru/opendata/530/row/$1 to https://data.mos.ru/opendata/530?objectId=$1&filter=global_id+=+$1. I tested it via VPN on test.wikidata and it seems to work (see this video). What do you think? Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 23:23, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kirilloparma: я не против такого варианта и я сейчас исправил шаблон будущего свойства. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 05:03, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok,

Doing… then. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 05:20, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MasterRus21thCentury, Kareyac, Erokhin, Fjjulien, Infrastruktur: Done: Moscow Cultural Heritage ID (P12284). Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 05:35, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kirilloparma, Thank you. Вас с прошедшими новогодними праздниками и я надеюсь на дальнейшее содействие в развитии российской тематики в Викиданных. Здесь фронт работ очень большой. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 06:28, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]