User talk:Arbnos

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Best regards! Ajraddatz (Talk) 20:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Elementary particle vs. fundamental particle

Hi, I see now that the two terms are used differently according to the ru and be and uk wikipedias. I think the item (Q43116) actually matches the ru (and be and uk) fundamental particle articles. They are structureless. I've changed those three wp links and merged the old "fundamental particle" item into Q43116 and renamed it accordingly in those three languages. The ru, be, and uk articles for elementary particle said it included protons for example so this does not match any existing wikidata item. If you think it is important then probably a new item is needed for particles that can't be split even though some of them have substructure (i.e. including baryons). DavRosen (talk) 00:22, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I've now created a new item indivisible particle (Q28846113) (which has subclass elementary particle (Q43116)) and linked it to the three articles (in ruwiki, bewiki, ukwiki) that describe it. Perhaps some other wp language articles should also link to the new class instead of its subclass depending on the article content. DavRosen (talk) 14:31, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Adding sources instead of repeating values

See my edit in Василий Иванчук - I am sure it's better this way הנדב הנכון (talk) 19:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Locative

As you added statements about locative to languages, I thought you might want to comment on Wikidata:Property_proposal/locative.
--- Jura 07:07, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Is Gallifrey a country

Hi,

I'm not sure that

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ country (P17) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

is correct. I understand the meaning but Gallifrey (Q367221) is not a country so it's very strange. Maybe

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ place of birth (P19) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

would be better (it's not exactly the same thing but at least it seems more correct). What do you think?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:21, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

VIGNERON, I'm not sure that

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ place of birth (P19) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

is correct. He never was born. It was the regeneration.Arbnos (talk) 18:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

True, I didn't think about that and I see that we already have

⟨ The Doctor (Q34358)    ⟩ place of birth (P19) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

But should we really keep

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ country (P17) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

? Gallifrey (Q367221) is not a country (as far as I know, it's a planet and with a stretch it's may be seen as a « civilization » but not a sovereign state or a nation), moreover country (P17) shouldn't be use for beings (it's meant for places).

A different matter, I'm not sure about

⟨ Clara Oswald (Q1765307)    ⟩ place of death (P20) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

(she died several times but I don't recall her dying on Gallifrey)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:44, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Гражданство Серебрякова

Здравствуйте. Хочу обратить Ваше внимание на то, что у Алексея Серебрякова нет гражданства Канады. Он на этом акцентировал внимание в том же интервью у Дудя. Это были его слова. При этом уточнив, что гражданство есть у его жены. Категория в Викиданных называется чётко — страна гражданства, а не ПМЖ, грин-карты и прочее. Спасибо за внимание.--Нинтендо (talk) 12:07, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Orbiting universe

Hi,

Do you have a source for:

⟨ Universe (Q1)    ⟩ parent astronomical body (P397) ⟨ multiverse (Q3327819)    ⟩
instance of (P31) ⟨ hypothesis (Q41719)    ⟩

I've heard hypotheses about the multiverse but nothing about universes orbiting.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:35, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

PS: I'm not sure about instance of (P31), wouldn't sourcing circumstances (P1480) be better?

• Hi VIGNERON, I haven't seen that in the sources either. Perhaps it came from the language section of Wikipedia on the language in which the property is named so that has made a thought in his language it is written in these sources is met.--Arbnos (talk) 13:36, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Ok, I removed it for now. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 15:00, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Q59613571

Isn't colorlessness (Q59613571) the same as colorless (Q1396399)? Wostr (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• Wostr, one of them is a quality, another optical phenomenon. Can I mix? Or not?--Arbnos (talk) 18:18, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
  • colorless (Q1396399) has already some uses with color (P462) and has subclass of (P279)color (Q1075). Also, color (Q1075)subclass of (P279)optical phenomenon (Q14506045) and instance of (P31)physical property (Q4373292) which subclass of (P279)property (Q937228) and then property (Q937228)subclass of (P279)quality (Q1207505). So to me, colorless (Q1396399) already has quality (Q1207505), although not directly as in colorlessness (Q59613571), but indirectly through color (Q1075), physical property (Q4373292) and property (Q937228).
    But, I see now that we also have colorlessness (Q11567495) and colorless (Q55690561), so maybe merging colorlessness (Q59613571) with one of these would be a better idea? Wostr (talk) 19:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Wostr, combined with colorlessness (Q11567495).--Arbnos (talk) 20:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Q62657882

Hi, I'm having problems with a few automatic tools caused by Q62657882 being treated as a non-fictional nation. The descriptions for state (Q7275) and sovereign state (Q3624078) says "organised community living under a system of government; either a sovereign state, constituent state, or federated state" and "political organization with a centralized independent government". I don't read Russian, so I can't read the sources, but I don't think Q62657882 has any form of constitution or a "centralized independent government".

/ Autom (talk) 02:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

@Arbnos: /Autom (talk) 17:36, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Autom:, indeed, thank you for the question, changed to "potential state".--Arbnos (talk) 14:22, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! /Autom (talk) 11:24, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Number of planets in the solar system

Related to these edits, the statements should be deprecated ! it was not true that the solar system had those number of planets, it was believed that, and later proven wrong. This is the definition of « deprecated » for statement rank. The qualifier end time (P582) is also probably wrong − it’s still true now that the sources cited state that. See for example Help:Deprecation author  TomT0m / talk page 16:26, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

• Established.--Arbnos (talk) 16:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
• TomT0m, also, with normal rank restored what was before my edits.--Arbnos (talk) 17:07, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

P7937

Before mass adding properties to items, please check the criteria restricting use of that property. The property form of creative work (P7937) is only to be used on items that are creative work (Q17537576) or a subclass of that. Items that are version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) do not meet that criterion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Additionally ode (Q178985) is not a valid value for that property. Only literary forms are valid values, but an ode (Q178985) isa literary genre. The form depends upon length or structure. The genre is determined by the content of the work, and an ode is an ode because of its content, not its structure. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:42, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• Hello! Property restrictions are not a dogma or a full- fledged restriction. I was also surprised that in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/literary_form ode was called a literary form , but decided to put, offering the good intentions of the proposed property.--Arbnos (talk) 12:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, and the restrictions set for the newly created property are generally at the beginning of formation.--Arbnos (talk) 12:09, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, I set the "none of constraint" constraint with the ode value of the property "format of creative work".--Arbnos (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, thank you for depriving me of the need to arrange ode, as I myself did not really want to, but I did, because I thought it was useful for Wikidata.--Arbnos (talk) 13:32, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, set the automatic transfer of the " ode "value of the " format of creative work "property to the "genre" property : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7937 .--Arbnos (talk) 13:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Sports statistic properties

Hi. I recently voted against the creation of some properties related to sports statistics. I proposed a more generic solution that would allow us to have the information without having to create one property for each situation.

You have participated in the initial vote and I want to share with you the details of my counter-proposal before I publish it.

It would be interesting to have your expert opinion / suggestions on whether to incorporate any changes before proposing it as a substitute property.

The work page is: User:Amadalvarez/sports statistics property.

Please leave comments on its talk page. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 07:47, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Importing incorrect streets

Hi Arbnos, this is not correct. Can you please check your edits? Thank you, Multichill (talk) 14:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Importing redundant information

Please* stop import dumping data from Wikipedia. In almost every case I've been finding duplicate-but-less-refined information being added to items (for example, "Atlas V 401" is already present, but you're adding "Atlas V" in addition). And, in some cases, the data is simply wrong, such as adding "diameter" to space telescope items when that figure actually refers to "aperture". While I appreciate the effort, overall it is causing issues and headaches. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:59, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Arbnos, why are you continuing to do these sorts of damaging imports? It is wasting your time and the time of everyone that has to clean up after you. Please stop, or at least find a way to *not* import something if the Property already exists. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:09, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors

Dear Arbnos,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King’s College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research that develops a personalized recommendation system to suggest Wikidata items for the editors based on their interests and preferences. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I would love to talk with you to know about your current ways to choose the items you work on in Wikidata and understand the factors that might influence such a decision. Your cooperation will give us valuable insights into building a recommender system that can help improve your editing experience.

Participation is completely voluntary. You have the option to withdraw at any time. Your data will be processed under the terms of UK data protection law (including the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018). The information and data that you provide will remain confidential; it will only be stored on the password-protected computer of the researchers. We will use the results anonymized to provide insights into the practices of the editors in item selection processes for editing and publish the results of the study to a research venue. If you decide to take part, we will ask you to sign a consent form, and you will be given a copy of this consent form to keep.

If you’re interested in participating and have 15-20 minutes to chat (I promise to keep the time!), please either contact me at kholoudsaa@gmail.com or kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmmFHaiB20nK14wrQJgfrA18PtmdagyeRib3xGtvzkdn3Lgw/viewform?usp=sf_link with your choice of the times that work for you.

I’ll follow up with you to figure out what method is the best way for us to connect.

Please contact me if you have any questions or require more information about this project.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 12:24, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata:WikiProject Russia, Wikidata:WikiProject Ukraine

Привет. Спасибо, что поддержал мои свойства в Викиданных. Хотелось бы вас пригласить в два новых проекта Викиданных - они посвящены России и Украине, в рамках которых предполагается создание свойств и лексем на тематики этих стран. Тем более что сейчас российская и украинская тематики не настолько сильно развиты, чем британская или немецкая. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 11:28, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

• MasterRus21thCentury, привет! Спасибо вам за приглашение, вступлю.--Arbnos (talk) 17:54, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

  Не за что! Для нас тем более стратегическая цель стоит - довести как минимум до 200 число свойств Викиданных из российских источников (например, из французских больше 400 свойств). MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 18:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

  Вступил.--Arbnos (talk) 18:16, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

What is Specialization (Q111697852)

Hello, what is this subject refering to? StarTrekker (talk) 19:55, 22 April 2023 (UTC)