User talk:Arbnos

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Best regards! Ajraddatz (Talk) 20:00, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Elementary particle vs. fundamental particle

Hi, I see now that the two terms are used differently according to the ru and be and uk wikipedias. I think the item (Q43116) actually matches the ru (and be and uk) fundamental particle articles. They are structureless. I've changed those three wp links and merged the old "fundamental particle" item into Q43116 and renamed it accordingly in those three languages. The ru, be, and uk articles for elementary particle said it included protons for example so this does not match any existing wikidata item. If you think it is important then probably a new item is needed for particles that can't be split even though some of them have substructure (i.e. including baryons). DavRosen (talk) 00:22, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I've now created a new item indivisible particle (Q28846113) (which has subclass elementary particle (Q43116)) and linked it to the three articles (in ruwiki, bewiki, ukwiki) that describe it. Perhaps some other wp language articles should also link to the new class instead of its subclass depending on the article content. DavRosen (talk) 14:31, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Adding sources instead of repeating values

See my edit in Василий Иванчук - I am sure it's better this way הנדב הנכון (talk) 19:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Locative

As you added statements about locative to languages, I thought you might want to comment on Wikidata:Property_proposal/locative.
--- Jura 07:07, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Is Gallifrey a country

Hi,

I'm not sure that

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ country (P17) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

is correct. I understand the meaning but Gallifrey (Q367221) is not a country so it's very strange. Maybe

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ place of birth (P19) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

would be better (it's not exactly the same thing but at least it seems more correct). What do you think?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:21, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

VIGNERON, I'm not sure that

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ place of birth (P19) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

is correct. He never was born. It was the regeneration.Arbnos (talk) 18:30, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

True, I didn't think about that and I see that we already have

⟨ The Doctor (Q34358)    ⟩ place of birth (P19) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

But should we really keep

⟨ Second Doctor (Q2063885)    ⟩ country (P17) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

? Gallifrey (Q367221) is not a country (as far as I know, it's a planet and with a stretch it's may be seen as a « civilization » but not a sovereign state or a nation), moreover country (P17) shouldn't be use for beings (it's meant for places).

A different matter, I'm not sure about

⟨ Clara Oswald (Q1765307)    ⟩ place of death (P20) ⟨ Gallifrey (Q367221)    ⟩

(she died several times but I don't recall her dying on Gallifrey)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:44, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Гражданство Серебрякова

Здравствуйте. Хочу обратить Ваше внимание на то, что у Алексея Серебрякова нет гражданства Канады. Он на этом акцентировал внимание в том же интервью у Дудя. Это были его слова. При этом уточнив, что гражданство есть у его жены. Категория в Викиданных называется чётко — страна гражданства, а не ПМЖ, грин-карты и прочее. Спасибо за внимание.--Нинтендо (talk) 12:07, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Orbiting universe

Hi,

Do you have a source for:

⟨ universe (Q1)    ⟩ parent astronomical body (P397) ⟨ multiverse (Q3327819)    ⟩
instance of (P31) ⟨ hypothesis (Q41719)    ⟩

I've heard hypotheses about the multiverse but nothing about universes orbiting.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:35, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

PS: I'm not sure about instance of (P31), wouldn't sourcing circumstances (P1480) be better?

• Hi VIGNERON, I haven't seen that in the sources either. Perhaps it came from the language section of Wikipedia on the language in which the property is named so that has made a thought in his language it is written in these sources is met.--Arbnos (talk) 13:36, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Ok, I removed it for now. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 15:00, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Q59613571

Isn't colorlessness (Q59613571) the same as colorless (Q1396399)? Wostr (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

• Wostr, one of them is a quality, another optical phenomenon. Can I mix? Or not?--Arbnos (talk) 18:18, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
  • colorless (Q1396399) has already some uses with color (P462) and has subclass of (P279) color (Q1075). Also, color (Q1075) subclass of (P279) optical phenomenon (Q14506045) and instance of (P31) physical property (Q4373292) which subclass of (P279) property (Q937228) and then property (Q937228) subclass of (P279) quality (Q1207505). So to me, colorless (Q1396399) already has quality (Q1207505), although not directly as in colorlessness (Q59613571), but indirectly through color (Q1075), physical property (Q4373292) and property (Q937228).
    But, I see now that we also have colorlessness (Q11567495) and colorless (Q55690561), so maybe merging colorlessness (Q59613571) with one of these would be a better idea? Wostr (talk) 19:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
    • Wostr, combined with colorlessness (Q11567495).--Arbnos (talk) 20:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Q62657882

Hi, I'm having problems with a few automatic tools caused by Q62657882 being treated as a non-fictional nation. The descriptions for state (Q7275) and sovereign state (Q3624078) says "organised community living under a system of government; either a sovereign state, constituent state, or federated state" and "political organization with a centralized independent government". I don't read Russian, so I can't read the sources, but I don't think Q62657882 has any form of constitution or a "centralized independent government".

/ Autom (talk) 02:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

@Arbnos: /Autom (talk) 17:36, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Autom:, indeed, thank you for the question, changed to "potential state".--Arbnos (talk) 14:22, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! /Autom (talk) 11:24, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Number of planets in the solar system

Related to these edits, the statements should be deprecated ! it was not true that the solar system had those number of planets, it was believed that, and later proven wrong. This is the definition of « deprecated » for statement rank. The qualifier end time (P582) is also probably wrong − it’s still true now that the sources cited state that. See for example Help:Deprecation author  TomT0m / talk page 16:26, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

• Established.--Arbnos (talk) 16:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
• TomT0m, also, with normal rank restored what was before my edits.--Arbnos (talk) 17:07, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

P7937

Before mass adding properties to items, please check the criteria restricting use of that property. The property form of creative work (P7937) is only to be used on items that are creative work (Q17537576) or a subclass of that. Items that are version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) do not meet that criterion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Additionally ode (Q178985) is not a valid value for that property. Only literary forms are valid values, but an ode (Q178985) isa literary genre. The form depends upon length or structure. The genre is determined by the content of the work, and an ode is an ode because of its content, not its structure. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:42, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

• Hello! Property restrictions are not a dogma or a full- fledged restriction. I was also surprised that in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/literary_form ode was called a literary form , but decided to put, offering the good intentions of the proposed property.--Arbnos (talk) 12:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, and the restrictions set for the newly created property are generally at the beginning of formation.--Arbnos (talk) 12:09, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, I set the "none of constraint" constraint with the ode value of the property "format of creative work".--Arbnos (talk) 13:18, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, thank you for depriving me of the need to arrange ode, as I myself did not really want to, but I did, because I thought it was useful for Wikidata.--Arbnos (talk) 13:32, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
• EncycloPetey, set the automatic transfer of the " ode "value of the " format of creative work "property to the "genre" property : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P7937 .--Arbnos (talk) 13:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)