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Hi!

I noticed changes like Special:Diff/2097180216. Per Wikidata:WikiProject_Award#Examples, I think the point in time (P585) qualifier is meant to be at year resolution, ie for the award year, not the precise day-date.

Jean-Fred (talk) 09:29, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jean-Fred !

Is this really a problem to have a more precise date (P585) ?

For instance, Iron Man and Iron Man 2, which are sample items of the Wikiproject Movies, have full date (P585) for most of their awards.

I think sometimes only the year can be confusing. e.g. The Steam Awards 2023 winners were announced in 2024

Floyd-out (discussion) 11:21, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

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After your edits, I constantly have to correct all this for you and it's quite frustrating as I spend a lot of time on this. Please, from now on use this gadget wisely and try to help correct the cases I've given above and not just add anything the gadget suggests you add without any additional verification, as it can not only suggest correct entries, as you can see. Regards

Hey Kirilloparma, sorry about that, I will pay more attention.

Thank you.

Hi. Thank you for adding the winners of this award, however I don't think you are using nominated for (P1411) and award received (P166) correctly. Based on this thread. When a nominated game wins in a certain category, it should be moved to the "awards received" property rather than being in both (example). Keeping winners in both properties leads to confusion. For example, in this edit it's really hard for me to understand whether this game won in this category or not. Can you please correct this for all winners of this award? Regards

Hi Kirilloparma !

By removing the nominated for (P1411), it seems to me that we are deleting a data / useful information. For instance the point in time (P585) are different (when the game was nominated, and when it won the award). Even if a game has won an award, the fact that it has been nominated is still true.

I've checked other awards, and they do sometimes keep both properties.

For instance, for the prestigious Academy Award for Best Picture (Q102427), this movie has both nominated for (P1411) and award received (P166) properties, with different point in time (P585).

Maybe that's a topic we could discuss on the video games project talk page ?

Regards

Hmm... Well, I'm still not sure that we should keep both properties since nominated for (P1411) shouldn't be there for the award winner anyway. I mean it's still misleading. I suggest the following, as I have already done here, for example. If we want to keep information about when the game was nominated, maybe we can just indicate it in the references (screenshot)? In this way we have 2 references that contain information about both the win and the nomination. What do you think? Although yes, I agree that this topic can be brought up for discussion and see what others think about it.

P.S. By the way, I skimmed through the list for the Academy Awards (Q19020) and found out that the nominations seem to have been incorrectly added (not sure about that) by this batch (the winners were already added to the items, but thanks to this batch, the winners are now also listed as nominees, which makes no sense). I don't think we should model video game items in this way though. Regards

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