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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Species items

Vanessalozano (talk) 08:28, 4 February 2019 (UTC) Hi -Animalparty, I would like to know the right way to add the property "Invasive species" or "plant" or " aquatic plant", Do I needto create a new category? Thanks!!!

identifier input

Hey Animalparty, I've written two scripts that make puting in identifiers easier here on Wikidata. One is a a bookmarklet for Mubi that sends the identifier to the page you're on to the clipboard (Ctrl+C). A userscript for the input of identifiers that strips the identifier out from a URL so you don't have to do that yourself. Hope you find these useful as well. --1Veertje (talk) 18:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Silvester Gardiner

Hi. I was going to merge Silvester Gardiner (Q75280634) and Silvester Gardiner (Q7516903) but I noticed that you have used said to be the same as (P460) to link them together.[1][2] Do you have any objections to a merge here? They both appear to be about a medical doctor with the same name operating in Boston at the same time with a child of the same name. From Hill To Shore (talk) 17:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

From Hill To Shore I think at the time I suspected it was plausible they were the same person, but didn't due the research to verify it. If credible sources (besides The Peerage, which is error-prone and often incomplete) support the merger, then I have no opposition to merging them. -Animalparty (talk) 17:50, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you mean by asking for another source that supports the merger. Silvester Gardiner (Q75280634) is quite literally the peerage entry in Wikidata form; it gives the subject's name, that he was a human male and that he had a daughter called Ann who married Rt Hon Arthur Browne, son of the Earl of Altamont. From that, we only need to establish that Silvester Gardiner (Q7516903) had a daughter called Ann who married the same person. Page 5 of a book at Internet Archive about Silvester Gardiner states that its subject was born in 1707 or on 29 June 1708, which matches Silvester Gardiner (Q7516903). Page 12 states that his daughter Ann married Arthur Browne, son of the Earl of Altamont. If you are happy with this book as the source, I'll carry out the merge. From Hill To Shore (talk) 22:12, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Added English alias: black person

I am just thinking out-loud, that it should be black people "Also known as" and black person as the label.

because under, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P172 a listing for a person shows as "people", white people, Jewish people,

etc. which is bad grammar, just saying.

50.254.21.211 19:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

50.254.21.211 Grammar means next to nothing on Wikidata, what's more important is the relationship between items. Wikidata pages aren't meant to be read like encyclopedia articles or prose. Plurals and singular are often treated under the same item (e.g. chemist (Q593644) which includes "chemist" and "chemists"), and alternate labels in "Also known as" serve to better aid humans in identifying and editing items. For instance, in list of African-American writers (Q6560691) the statement "is a list of: human" is not grammatically correct, but it is informationally correct. -Animalparty (talk) 22:09, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

John Hamilton

Hi. I have reverted your merger of Sir John Hamilton (Q75389861) and John Hamilton (Q711983) as there is a lack of evidence that these are the same individual. We should not be merging entries purely on guesswork. An important point to note about the supposed father is that he gave the same names to different children. He had at least two different sons named James by different mothers (both alive at the same time), so deciding that two sons named John can't have different mothers is stretching things a little. If you have additional evidence to support the merger then that will be great, but the existing material doesn't support it (though I note someone has edited one of the WikiTree entries based on the merged data here so that it now appears to support the merge in a circular argument). From Hill To Shore (talk) 23:09, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

From Hill To Shore: You do what you feel is right\. At the time I felt it was plausible, even compelling, that they are the same. If not, well life goes on. Your faithful volunteer genealogist, -Animalparty (talk) 23:20, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Francis Watts Lee family

I don't know why, but I'm fascinated by these photos of this family that you've been working on the items for. I've never heard of them before. Have you read Artful Lives? Is it worth reading?

In an interesting coincidence, they are descended from Francis Watts, whose portrait is on the cover of a book I'm currently reading about painter John Brewster Jr. Gamaliel (talk) 23:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Gamaliel Interesting. I read excerpts of Artful Lives to glean some biographical info on the family members, but haven't read it deeply. On a side note, is there a benefit to using Find a Grave as described at URL (P973), e.g. at Alice Haskell Watts Lee (Q105082594), instead of simply using Find a Grave memorial ID (P535)? Nearly every external identifier describes its subject in some fashion or another, so it seems rather redundant. Cheers, -Animalparty (talk) 00:36, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

It's just a quirk of the New Q5 tool I use a lot, and since KRbot fixes it and moves it to P535 I don't see any harm in it. The advantage of using the tool is that it adds findagrave as a source for the birth and death dates. Gamaliel (talk) 13:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Library of Congress images

I see you like the Library of Congress images of actors, and if you want to help add context and help date the images, 50 new ones are released each Friday at Flickr Commons by the LOC. We are currently in a 1923 tranche. 99% of the images are already at Wikimedia Commons but the date says "1900". I add a link back to Flickr Commons, add a Wikimedia Commons category, and add the image to Wikidata, if none present already. I stared going back through the oldest 1910 ones recently because I was too lazy to add them all. User:Fae used a bot to load them all as "1900" for the date. I also create Wikidata entries for people that cannot be identified fully and leave the QID at Flickr Commons. See for example S.A. Santa Maria (Q105592488), that way if someone figures out the person, they can fill in the info at Wikidata. --RAN (talk) 00:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

They have not posted any for today, here is the last set. --RAN (talk) 14:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Ralph Vary Chamberlin (Q2295020)

Why? Matlin (talk) 05:16, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Matlin Because if not checked, eventually every scientist (and human) item on Wikidata will have hundreds of frivolous, redundant, pedantic properties. Zoologists are interested in zoology and practice zoology in the field of zoology.... Ornithologists are interested in birds and ornithology and practice ornithology in the field of ornithology and maybe also study parrots and toucans and pigeons and sparrows. Entomologists are interested in entomology and also insects and are in the field of entomology and might study 500 different species. And all of the above are biologists in the field of biology that are interested in biology and study biology, and scientists who study science, ad nauseum. I know that despite my objections, the final state of Wikidata is going to be a hyper-dense landscape of redundant, "true but useless data", as data trumps all in the end. Are you planning to add that William Shakespeare (Q692) and every person who has ever written (regardless of profession) has field of work = writing (Q37260) and is interested in writing (Q37260)? If you don't, someone else eventually will. -Animalparty (talk) 06:13, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I revert whole query. Matlin (talk) 18:35, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change

I note you reverted my short description for this organisation. This organisation was originally placed in Category:Climate change skepticism and denial and then into Category:Climate change denial by other editors and a bot. Your assertion in the edit history that I am biased against climate change is demonstably false. --Whiteguru (talk) 23:01, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Please check work on Joseph C. Baldwin (Q3816061)

I removed the C-Span ID on Joseph C. Baldwin (Q3816061) as the link fails to resolve, but also the person this is applied died before C-Span's inception. Please review your 7 edits from 29 August 2020 02:17-17:06 to ensure those identifiers should remain. Wolfgang8741 (talk) 20:20, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Duplicates through VIAF

Hi! If you are interested, a new updated list is now available: Wikidata:VIAF/cluster/linking to multiple Wikidata items. Bye, --Epìdosis 09:59, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Foreign language names

Hi Animalparty!,

I've got a question: Where is defined, that new items from you are getting added with English, German, French .. labels? It can't be babelboxes since there are none on your user page.

In the particular case above nearly all non-English languages wouldcould transcribe that name differently.

Best wishes, Geverkshaft (talk) 17:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Geverkshaft, The non-English labels are often automatically populated when I use tools like Mix'n'match or New-Q5. I realize that in some cases human names have different spellings or transcriptions in different languages, which is why I especially tend to avoid non-Latin alphabets. Cheers. -Animalparty (talk) 04:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

There are two Berry Campbells!

I noticed that you merged the two Berry Campbell records by mistake. Please note that there was a reason for the "different from" property being in place on these records. One Berry Campbell was a neurophysiologist, the other was a herpetologist. The latter started publishing in the early 1930s, whereas the former started publishing in the late 1930s after he graduated from the University of Oklahoma College of Medicine.

I have reverted your edits to the last known good version. Please be more cautious & verify that two records are for the same person when you see Property:P1889 populated. Peaceray (talk) 21:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Peaceray Are you absolutely certain these are different people? I believe they are one and the same. Read the obituary at https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10.1002/ar.1092160214 (page 242). "Born March 21, 1912 in St. Paul Minnesota, Berry developed an early interest in natural history and biology; this led him to the University of California at Los Angeles where he received a bachelor of arts degree in 1932.". See also Scientific and Popular Writers on American Snakes (1517-1944): A Check List and Short Biography: "Campbell, Berry (March 21, 1912, St. Paul, Minn. — ). Comparative anatomist; naturalist. Ed. - California (Los Angeles); Johns Hopkins. Res. Asst, Zool. Calif. 1932; fellow Western Reserve 1935-37; asst, prof. Univ. Oklahoma 1937-42; Coil. Physicians & Surg. Columbia 1942-; Univ. Minn. Med. School, Minneapolis, Minn., 1948". It is not uncommon for biologists to have more than one specialization over their career. -Animalparty (talk) 21:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Peaceray, Note also that the herpetological papers by Berry Campbell (Q21502627) are bylined to either Monrovia, CA ([3], [4]) or Johns Hopkins Medical School, [5], both of which correspond to the early life and educational career of Dr. Berry Campbell (Q100324399), as attested in his University of California obituary -Animalparty (talk) 22:26, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

In addition, even the Guggenheim Foundation profile that you've cited mentions the good neuro-doctor has also published in Copeia (Q205600), The Condor (Q2612787) and Journal of Mammalogy (Q1709857), none of which are especially focused on neurophysiology. -Animalparty (talk) 22:38, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the additional information. I had spent some time looking at this before I created the record for the Berry Campbell herpetologist record. My doubts had arisen from this:

• As a neurophysiologist, he studied UCLA, Johns Hopkins University, & Case Western Reserve University. He taught at University of Oklahoma College of Medicine, University of Minnesota, Loma Linda University School of Medicine, & UC Irvine Medical Center, & his archives are at University of Minnesota Libraries. The herpetologist archive is at the University of Michigan Museum of Zoology. Thus, he would have been publishing in scholarly journals at the age of 19½. I thought it unlikely that someone would have published in a peer-reviewed journal at that age & would have any archive in an institution that was seemingly unconnected to him. However, unlikely is not the same as impossible!

Thanks to your additional information, I am now satisfied that they are the same person.

If it is okay with you, I will remove the "different from" properties from both records then merge them.

I think we should move this conversation to the merged talk page. Peaceray (talk) 22:53, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

I went ahead with the merge. Peaceray (talk) 23:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

w:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joseph Gerald Branch II

FYI I have sent the Joseph Gerald Branch II article to AFD as I suspect it is a duplicate. GZWDer (talk) 14:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Multiple labels

Hi there. Wikipedia recently rolled out a new feature (mul) intended to reduce duplication and improve the scalability of the query services. There are limited tests now removing these labels, in preparation to remove them in bulk over the upcoming months. Any tools and queries that are not mul aware will need to be updated.

You can find some more details about the discussion preparing for the removal of these labels in mass, and share any of your feedback here.

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Names

It would also be helpful to share some more details about the tools that break, so they can be improved or fixed. Iamcarbon (talk) 23:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Iamcarbon I have commented at Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Names#Mul_labels_-_proposal_of_massive_addition. With any new feature and massive rollouts there are bound to be hiccups, problems, and unintended consequences. I'm not a programmer or savvy with coding, but I am a regular contributor to Wikidata, thus I rely heavily on handy tools made by others to make life easier. -Animalparty (talk) 00:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

This is helpful. I'm going to try to make a case to defer any mass removals before we give these tools a chance to update. We've already identified a few other things that need to be fixed today. Note, I'll be continuing to do some tests deleting more label sets over the upcoming weeks on about 100 names, to identify any other tools and use cases that may break -- and to help bring more feedback to the mass-label-removal-plan. I'd appreciate if you hold back on reverting these, in hope someone else MAY instead -- to identify any other tools we may be impacting. Iamcarbon (talk) 00:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Penguin Random House author ID constraint

Hi @Animalparty.

Quick note: Your recent edit adding a new "subject type constraint" on Penguin Random House author ID overrode the existing constraint, which caused this property to become invalid on humans.

Instead of creating a new statement, we can add organization to the existing statement, so it works on both types. I went ahead and updated this. Iamcarbon (talk) 05:16, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Iamcarbon Thanks for that. I made an attempt to resolve the previous error caused by adding the ID to non-human items. Cheers, -Animalparty (talk) 05:19, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Simon / Simono

Hi @Animalparty. I understand the to some extent complicating idea to have different wikidata items for each variation of the male personal name(s) in English called Simon/Simeon/Shimon. But if the Esperanto page "Simono" has to be apart, than the croatian name "Šimun" for sure also should get an own wikidata entry. And by the way, the pages in cyrillic called Шимон (=Šimon) should be under Šimon, not Simon (=Cимон). Shifting the pages in cyrillic called Шимон to the entry Šimon is no problem, but for the croatian Šimun an own entry has to be created, which then will be equally orphan than "Simono". ThomasPusch (talk) 09:43, 3 February 2025 (UTC)