Wikidata:Property proposal/Place

Property proposal:	Generic	Authority control	Person	Organization
	Creative work	Place	Sports	Sister projects
	Transportation	Natural science	Computing	Lexeme

See also

• Wikidata:Property proposal/Pending – properties which have been approved but which are on hold waiting for the appropriate datatype to be made available
• Wikidata:Properties for deletion – proposals for the deletion of properties
• Wikidata:External identifiers – statements to add when creating properties for external IDs
• Wikidata:Lexicographical data – information and discussion about lexicographic data on Wikidata

This page is for the proposal of new properties.

Before proposing a property

1. Search if the property already exists.
2. Search if the property has already been proposed.
3. Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
4. Select the right datatype for the property.
5. Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
6. Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.

Creating the property

1. Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
2. Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
3. See property creation policy.

On this page, old discussions are archived. An overview of all archives can be found at this page's archive index. The current archive is located at 2024/05.

Hierarchy of administrative territorial entities

Properties proposed in RfC "Countries, subdivisions, and disputed territories"

recognition

   Under discussion

Description	international recognition of the statement (use as qualifier for P31, P17, and P131)
Data type	Item
Example 1	Armenia (Q399)instance of (P31)sovereign state (Q3624078) → "international recognition of Armenia"
Example 2	Crimea (Q7835)country (P17)Russia (Q159) → "recognition of Crimea as a part of Russia"
Example 3	Israel (Q801)instance of (P31)sovereign state (Q3624078) → international recognition of Israel (Q6055209)

recognized by

   Under discussion

Description	MISSING
Data type	Item
Example 1	international recognition of Kosovo (Q23052) → United States of America (Q30)
Example 2	"recognition of Crimea as a part of Russia" → Sudan (Q1049)
Example 3	"international recognition of Armenia" → United States of America (Q30)

not recognized by

   Under discussion

Description	MISSING
Data type	Item
Example 1	"international recognition of Armenia" → Pakistan (Q843)
Example 2	"recognition of Crimea as a part of Russia" → Italy (Q38)
Example 3	international recognition of Kosovo (Q23052) → Madagascar (Q1019)

jurisdiction status

   Under discussion

Description	jura statuso (eo) / Статус юрисдикции (ru) – (Please translate this into English.)
Data type	Item
Allowed values	de jure (Q132555), de facto (Q712144), de jure/de facto (Q63813883)
Example 1	Taiwan (Q57251)located in the administrative territorial entity (P131)People's Republic of China (Q148) → de jure (Q132555)
Example 2	Bir Tawil (Q620634)country (P17)Egypt (Q79) → de facto (Q712144)
Example 3	Taiwan (Q22502)country (P17)Taiwan (Q865) → de jure/de facto (Q63813883)

Motivation

These proposed properties are part of a broader proposal at Wikidata:Requests for comment/Countries, subdivisions, and disputed territories. Please comment there. --Yair rand (talk) 07:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

•  Support All David (talk) 07:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Comment What's "de jure, de facto"? Should have both de jure and de facto items? Or a new item called this should be created? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

  @ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Liuxinyu970226: I had hoped for discussion on this to be kept on the page for the RfC itself, if everyone's okay with that. (@Liuxinyu970226, as explained on the RfC, the proposal is for a new item labelled "de jure, de facto" to be created, which would be for those which are both de jure and de facto authorities over disputed territories.) --Yair rand (talk) 18:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

  @Yair rand: Another interesting thing is that, how the second and third proposals are not covered-able by statement supported by (P3680) and statement disputed by (P1310). --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:22, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

• Interesting proposal. I do see plenty of advantages. --- Jura 19:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Support This will give lot of important information! -Theklan (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
•  Support NMaia (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
•  Comment I think we should sort out the relation to existing properties before creating this. Per RFC (and later linked from one of the properties), this should also replace existing ones. It's not clear why though. --- Jura 18:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Support I would like to add the ISO 2 Code of the country it is recognized by, this would help massively with subsequent data integration instead of just showing the country names (they are always spelled differently across data sources, whereas standardized ISO codes simplifies data integration) --- AddNPBot 11:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose in current form of proposals.  Support the "recognized by" property if both the domain and value type constraint are changed to state (Q7275). Qualifier statement is subject of (P805) can then be used with the new "recognized by" property with a value type of international recognition of a country (Q19602404). Dhx1 (talk) 13:17, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
•  Support Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 23:10, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose in current form, and  Support in the form presented by Dhx1 TiagoLubiana (talk) 15:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
•  Oppose--Dispe (talk) 12:45, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
•  Support for “recognized by”, “not recognized by”, “jurisdiction status”.  Oppose for “recognition”. Already statement is subject of (P805) can be used. --Wdpp (talk) 18:28, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
•  Support seems useful for items about countries. --IWI (talk) 00:09, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
•  Support «recognized by» and «not recognized by».  Oppose the other two: «jurisdiction status» is nature of statement (P5102), «recognition» is statement is subject of (P805). --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 05:24, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
•  Support recognition, recognized by and not recognized by.  Weak oppose jurisdiction status. Ari T. Benchaim ^(talk) 01:35, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

So, this page was specifically not supposed to be the discussion area for the proposals, as mentioned. (See also the lack of a "discussion" section on this page.) The actual proposal is described on the linked RFC page, and is not described on this page. Many of the comments above do not seem to be regarding the actual proposed properties as described in the RFC. The proposal and discussion area are at Wikidata:Requests for comment/Countries, subdivisions, and disputed territories. This page exists to be a pointer to there. --Yair rand (talk) 04:28, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• @Yair rand: Hi - it's been over 2 years since this proposal and RFC were started; there have been a few comments on the RFC since you last commented here, can you respond and perhaps we can settle where to go from here now? Another editor had marked these as ready but I am not sure on that (but they could be!) ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:29, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
• After a member of the WikiProject Human rights had asked me today how to model that citizens of certain countries don't have certain rights, I created the proposal (not) officially recognized by . I embarrassingly missed that this proposal already existed ... however seeing that 1) this proposal has been met with opposition because it suggests "recognition" which can just be modeled with statement is subject of (P805) and "jurisdiction status" ... which can also just be modeled with nature of statement (P5102) & statement disputed by (P1310) and 2) that this proposal has apparently been abandoned it's probably good that I created a new proposal.

So please check out my proposal (not) officially recognized by ... I also have examples for human rights, animal rights, religions and atrocities and suggestions for some property constraints :)

--Push-f (talk) 16:28, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Architectural structure

‎AccessAble venue ID

   Under discussion

Description	identifier for a venue on AccessAble
Represents	AccessAble (Q96635767)
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Sea Life London Aquarium (Q3312744) → 1dc5a78a-3f7f-4a49-8b28-429deb3709e8
Example 2	Church of St John The Baptist (Q26672714) → 25a448bd-038d-4100-b42e-6cd3e4152918
Example 3	Finsbury Park railway station (Q536796) → 30fa8272-b18f-4c3c-832c-451b211b9fef
Example 4	Andover War Memorial Hospital (Q23926537) → 7667ed5d-d9be-1d4e-99ca-2400bc2234e2 ↳ subject named as (P1810) → Andover War Memorial Hospital
Example 5	Andover War Memorial Hospital (Q23926537) → 321b80ee-57e9-da46-a58d-a68b460ab263 ↳ subject named as (P1810) → Chapel
Example 6	Andover War Memorial Hospital (Q23926537) → 4cdf8e59-ac5f-114c-bec3-383630c72902 ↳ subject named as (P1810) → Maternity Ultrasound
Example 7	Banbridge Library (Q55263395) → c97b28f6-9d46-7643-b6fc-969018730868
Example 8	Dublin Connolly railway station (Q2543742) → 8b93cbee-f58f-449d-86ab-dd333233f62a
Example 9	Chester Zoo (Q3139243) → 898982f4-adff-4662-96c7-ab3bae58a406
Source	https://www.accessable.co.uk/
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.accessable.co.uk/searches?query=$1
Applicable "stated in"-value	AccessAble (Q96635767)
Single-value constraint	no
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

AccessAble (formerly known as DisabledGo) is a resource with tens of thousands of accessibility guides for venues in the United Kingdom and Ireland. The information in the guides is highly reliable and gathered from real surveys, providing detailed information and photographs documenting the accessibility of the venues. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 17:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

• Jheald (talk) 09:48, 11 January 2015 (UTC) PKM (talk) 19:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC) Fabian Tompsett (WMUK) (talk) 08:51, 12 January 2015 (UTC) Charles Matthews (talk) 09:27, 15 January 2015 (UTC) Filceolaire (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2015 (UTC) Danrok (talk) 13:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits JJBullet (talk) 10:55, 27 June 2019 (UTC) Yirba (talk) 09:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
  Notified participants of WikiProject UK and Ireland --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 17:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
• Examples 5 and 6 are incorrect; the "subject" is not named as shown; it seems "applies to part" is meant. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:58, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  Agreed it's not the correct way - I was hoping for some input on that. applies to part (P518) is an item datatype and I don't think it's sustainable to create an item for every part of a venue that may have an accessibility guide. Would object named as (P1932) perhaps work here? Lewis Hulbert (talk) 18:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Lewis Hulbert:, your description missing, please provide a description. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 19:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

  @Pigsonthewing:, would you like to give your final opinion based on the response? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

‎Historic Synagogues of Europe ID

   Done: Historic Synagogues of Europe ID (P12733) (Talk and documentation)

Description	numeric identifier for a synagogue on the Historic Synagogues of Europe website
Represents	Historic Synagogues of Europe (Q117296786)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	item, synagogue (Q34627)
Allowed values	\d{5}
Example 1	Synagogue in Mariupol (Q25435047)→23403
Example 2	Great Maharsha Synagogue (Q12088288)→14944
Example 3	Chobotarska Synagogue (Q61922648)→23412
Example 4	Chișinău Choral Synagogue (Q4222659)→11055
Example 5	Synagogue in Úsobí (Q12057930)→24979
Example 6	Synagogue in Višegrad (Q31842293)→17261
Example 7	Il Kal Di La Bilava (Q67153779)→16926
Example 8	Synagogue in Szczebrzeszyn (Q9350121)→13748
Example 9	Great Synagogue in Pryluky (Q111014997)→34555
Example 10	Former Great Synagogue in Radyvyliv (Q118112463)→14023
Source	https://historicsynagogueseurope.org/synagogue-search
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Number of IDs in source	3440 (as of 2024-05-13[1])
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that suggests notability (Q62589316)
Formatter URL	https://historicsynagogueseurope.org/browser.php?mode=set&id=$1
See also	myjewishitaly.it ID (P11912)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Historic Synagogues of Europe (Q117296786)
Type constraint – instance of	synagogue (Q34627)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Historic Sites (Q15214435)

Motivation

Useful to help improve our coverage of historic synagogues in Europe. --Marsupium (talk) 11:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

Fralambert (talk) (Canada and United States)
Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) Yarl ✉️️  Spinster 💬 10:54, 6 March 2017 (UTC) Beat Estermann (talk) 09:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC) PKM (talk) Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 05:57, 14 May 2017 (UTC) Acka47 (talk) 13:38, 29 June 2017 (UTC) --Carlojoseph14 (talk) 15:13, 30 June 2017 (UTC) Ainali (talk) 09:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC) VIGNERON (talk) Marsupium (talk) 14:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Runner1928 (talk) 15:46, 30 July 2018 (UTC) --Alexmar983 (talk) 20:48, 3 August 2018 (UTC) -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 10:04, 20 August 2018 (UTC) --Titodutta (talk) 13:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC) -- Satpal Dandiwal (talk) 02:06, 22 August 2018 (UTC) --Satdeep Gill (talk) 04:36, 22 August 2018 (UTC) --Pmlineditor (talk) 13:23, 22 August 2018 (UTC) --Rajeeb Dutta (talk) 15:17, 23 August 2018 (UTC) --Ananth subray (talk) 03:38, 24 August 2018 (UTC) --Sumanth699 (talk) 15:54, 25 August 2018 (UTC) --Ranjithsiji (talk) 08:19, 27 August 2018 (UTC) --MNavya (talk) 16:46, 27 August 2018 (UTC) Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 23:43, 1 September 2018 (UTC) Blademasterx (talk) 07:29, 3 October 2018 (UTC) Buccalon (talk) 20:35, 19 November 2018 (UTC) --Planemad (talk) 09:19, 15 December 2018 (UTC) Nizil Shah (talk) 05:23, 14 February 2019 (UTC) Ivanhercaz (Talk) 10:18, 8 June 2019 (UTC) Simon Cobb (User:Sic19 ; talk page) 16:43, 9 July 2019 (UTC) Mallikarjunasj (talk) 12:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC) --DarwIn (talk) 16:19, 25 August 2019 (UTC) --Atudu (talk) 15:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC) Arch2all (talk) 08:56, 21 January 2020 (UTC) John Samuel (talk) 21:50, 22 March 2020 (UTC) Akuckartz (talk) 11:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC) Baidax (talk) 22:34, 16 September 2020 (UTC) --Epìdosis 18:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC) Pauljmackay (talk) 16:07, 11 December 2020 (UTC) Mathieu Kappler (talk) 11:46, 6 September 2021 (UTC) dzahsh (talk) 11:46, 8 March 2022 (UTC) Wolfgang8741 (talk) 17:06, 31 March 2022 (UTC) —Ismael Olea (talk) Akbarali (talk) 07:35, 13 August 2022 (UTC) ⚊⚊ DCflyer (talk) 10:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC) Antoine2711 (talk) 07:54, 7 December 2023 (UTC) --Zache (talk) 09:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Built heritage--Marsupium (talk) 11:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

•  Support as proposer. --Marsupium (talk) 11:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support Pallor (talk) 11:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support — Baidax ^💬 14:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
•  Support --Fralambert (talk) 16:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
• @Marsupium, Pallor, Baidax, Fralambert:  Done as Historic Synagogues of Europe ID (P12733). Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

‎Bundes-Klinik-Atlas Hospital ID

   Under discussion

Description	Bundes-Klinik-Atlas Hostpital ID
Represents	Bundes-Klinik-Atlas (Q125976761)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	hospital (Q16917) in Germany (Q183)
Allowed values	[1-9]\d*
Example 1	Paracelsus-Nordseeklinik Helgoland (Q61786518)→772807
Example 2	Passau hospital (Q16216390)→772859
Example 3	Helios Kliniken Schwerin (Q1602556)→772916
Number of IDs in source	1661
Formatter URL	https://bundes-klinik-atlas.de/krankenhaussuche/krankenhaus/$1/
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

bundes-klinik-atlas.de is a newly established German governmental website that aims to make german hospitals comparable. It offers the following datapoints for each hospital:

• Address, phone number, email etc.
• Number of beds
• Number of treatment per year
• Staff member count
• Selected certificates for the treatment of specific illnesses
• Number of specialist departments
  • Yearly number of treatments per department
• Availability of emergency care

–Shisma (talk) 07:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

Tobias1984
Doc James
Bluerasberry
Gambo7
Daniel Mietchen
Andrew Su
Andrux
Pavel Dušek
Mvolz
User:Jtuom
Chris Mungall
ChristianKl
Gstupp
Sintakso
علاء
Adert
CFCF
Jtuom
Drchriswilliams
Okkn
CAPTAIN RAJU
LeadSongDog
Ozzie10aaaa
Marsupium
Netha Hussain
Abhijeet Safai
Seppi333
Shani Evenstein
Csisc
Morgankevinj
TiagoLubiana
ZI Jony
Antoine2711
JustScienceJS
Scossin
Josegustavomartins
Zeromonk
The Anome
Kasyap
JMagalhães
Ameer Fauri

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine

Bigbossfarin Galaktos Labant M2k~dewiki Mathieu Kappler PantherStrix Wiljes jobu0101 cookroach Looniverse

Notified participants of WikiProject Germany

Arlo Barnes JoranL

Notified participants of WikiProject Health Data Space

•  Support --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 13:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Outer space

Please visit Wikidata:WikiProject Space for more information. To notify participants use {{Ping project|Space}}

Classification of human settlements

glubinka.by ID

   Under discussion

Description	identifier for Belarusian places on glubinka.by
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Zembin (Q2061031) -> minskaya-oblast/borisovskij-rajon/zembin
Example 2	Rudnia (Q16714892) -> minskaya-oblast/chervenskij-rajon/rudnya
Example 3	Orsha (Q208609) -> vitebskaya-oblast/orshanskij-rajon/orsha
Formatter URL	https://glubinka.by/$1.html
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

Big site with photos and texts of Belarusian places. Creative Commons BY-SA 4.0. Actually this website is the project of my friend.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vitaly Zdanevich (talk • contribs) at 07:12, May 4, 2024‎ (UTC).