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Q31880189 and Q48614307

Both items are about a swamp in NL and DE. Original both items used the name/title in the corresponding language.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pdreijnders (talk • contribs) at 18:06, 16 March 2024 (UTC).

Hey @Pdreijnders: Since there are 3 different protected areas (Amtsvenn - Hündfelder Moor (Q481383), Amtsvenn und Hündfelder Moor (Q48613795), Aamsveen (Q48614307)) that cover the Amtsvenn (Q31880189) swamp, it is better to keep the entities separate. The 3 protected areas are listed under located in protected area (P3018) in the swamp item, and I added located in/on physical feature (P706)Amtsvenn (Q31880189) staments to the protected areas to indicate that they are located at the Amtsvenn swamp. Samoasambia ✎ 22:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I see your point. But then the items are not fully correct. In the "living world" there is one swamp called Aamsveen (in Dutch) / Amstvenn (in German). This area happens to reside in two countries. So in the "administrative world" there is for the Dutch the protected area (NL2003001) and for German one (not two) protected area (DE3807301). Pdreijnders (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Q956859 and Q2048766

Although the Dutch Wikipedia has two articles it is the same concept. (pinging User:Mbch331) --TadejM (talk) 14:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, but as long as there are 2 articles on the Dutch Wikipedia, there need to be 2 items. Otherwise you're creating unconnected pages. First you need to convince the local community to merge the pages, then the items can be merged. If there remain 2 articles, then there will remain 2 items. Mbch331 (talk) 14:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry; I don't speak Dutch though and I am not involved in the local community. Why are you projecting your local issues onto Wikidata? --TadejM (talk) 14:13, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Because you want to merge items and as per policy, when there's a sitelink conflict, there is a different way to handle. See Help:Merge#Items to be merged with sitelink conflicts. Mbch331 (talk) 14:17, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Why are you quoting this as a policy? It is clearly marked as a proposal. There should only be one item for each concept as otherwise it doubles (or triples etc.) the work required to maintain all these items and leads to inconsistencies. It is up to the Dutch Wikipedia community to clear their local duplicates. I don't find it reasonable to expect from users of Wikidata to come and resolve issues for them. --TadejM (talk) 14:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Local communities are leading in what is to be 1 page and what is multiple pages. Every page has a right for a Wikidata item. If a local community thinks that 2 pages are needed to describe something people on Wikidata see as duplicates, you can't force the community to make it one page. For now the Dutch Wikipedia community has 2 pages and I happen to know, they are going to think about making a merge proposal. For now I've marked monolatrism (Q2048766) as a duplicate of monolatrism (Q956859). All statements have been moved to monolatrism (Q956859), so there is only 1 item to maintain. If and when the Dutch community decides to merge the items can be officially merged. Mbch331 (talk) 14:41, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

What makes you think that 'Every [local] page has a right for a Wikidata item'? As far as I understand from Help:Sitelinks, each Wikimedia/Wikipedia page 'can [only] have' one sitelink to one Wikidata item page, which is not the same as claiming that it must have one. What I read is that 'typically items have at least one corresponding page on a Wikimedia site' and that 'Sitelinks are also useful for ensuring that items in Wikidata represent only one unique concept'. Linking to duplicates is not helpful in this regard.

Thanks for taking this up in the Dutch Wikipedia and marking the item as a duplicate here. I really don't think local issues should be resolved by Wikidata users as there may be several projects that need to merge their articles. Sitelinks can be added to Wikimedia sites in more than 200 languages (some of them barely having any community). I also don't think that the quality of Wikidata should be compromised due to issues in Wikipedia. On the contrary, Wikidata develops by itself and as such also provides a way of quality assurance for others. --TadejM (talk) 14:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

What makes you think that 'Every [local] page has a right for a Wikidata item'? Per WD:N notability on Wikipedia implies notability on Wikidata. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 08:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

From another perspective, this is not a local issue, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Monolatry . Apart from the discussion about wiki policy/approach and theology, this is more about semantics. The previous merge on the EN wiki was semantically incorrect. The two separate Dutch articles approach (semantically) the reality more accurately. Pdreijnders (talk) 21:45, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Q123986434 and Q15075612

I am not sure about these two. Rare lastname, same firstname, same first letter of patronym, same deathyear, very few sources on one of them. I've added "different from", but I'm not sure about it. Podbrushkin (talk) 09:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Podbrushkin, althouth the first letter of patronym is the same, the entire patronym is different, and different people are specified as their fathers, one is Q123986429, the other is Q123986004. Michgrig (talk) 11:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Upd. In the RuWP article about the Nolde family (ru:Нольде), both these people are mentioned. So, they seem to be really different. Michgrig (talk) 11:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

ty for figuring it out. Podbrushkin (talk) 06:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

You are welcome. So,  Not done. Michgrig (talk) 15:00, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Q55836900 and Q125134013 and Q99937716

Q99937716 is the es Wikipedia.

Q125134013 was just created with the en Wikipedia translation.

Q55836900 is the same person per DOB and DOD given. OIM20 (talk) 10:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

 Merged into José Genaro Villanova (Q99937716). Thank you! Samoasambia ✎ 11:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Q63929802 and Q974853

Q63929802 and Q974853 are for the same given name. RedMoh Wiki (talk) 22:41, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

 Merged, thank you for noting us! –Samoasambia ✎ 20:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Q30314651 and Q18672029

Same topic. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 20:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 Merged, thank you for noting us! –Samoasambia ✎ 20:41, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Q21704322 and Q35509

Same topic (cave) PinkZip (talk) 14:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

@PinkZip, there are two different articles in the Armenian wiki. So, before merging the items here, one needs to merge the articles there. Michgrig (talk) 15:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Q108083521 and Q18757144

Same topic. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 19:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @WikiOriginal-9,
Are you sure these items are about the same person? There are different death dates - 1610 and 1624 and different occupations - non-fiction writer (Q15980158) and mathematician (Q170790) + physician (Q39631). Michgrig (talk) 07:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I think it's the same guy but different sources just have different death dates. At Q18757144, the "Oxford Dictionary of National Biography ID" (scroll down to read part of his snippet) has his death date as 1610? and it says "by 1597, he was working as a physician in Bury St Edmunds" while the "Dictionary of National Biography, 1885–1900" link has his death date as 1624 and also says "Before 1597 he was settled at Bury St. Edmunds as a physician" so looks like they're the same person. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 12:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Q18530089 and Q6206663

The enwiki article has his name spelled both ways. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 13:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged based on the description mathing with the article's content. Samoasambia ✎ 20:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Q125350760 and Q18531343

WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 16:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done, merged automatically by Deltabot. Samoasambia ✎ 20:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Q76335708, Q108087212, and Q18731054

WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 07:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 10:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Q108116115 and Q18528041

Same guy per details at enwiki article. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 09:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Q61113558 and Q113499328

Same university, years, fullname etc Podbrushkin (talk) 08:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 06:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Q120268692 and Q56311965

Same full name, years, occupation etc. Podbrushkin (talk) 13:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 06:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Q1093720 and Q123859484

Same entry, Q123859484 is a separate item for the article from Slovak Wikipedia. Shallov (talk) 20:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 08:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Ivan Stepanovic Peninskij (Q124770076) and Ivan Stepanovic Peninskij (Q110146763)

same full name and years Podbrushkin (talk) 08:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 09:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Q125491264 and Q4068301

Created an already existing item (did not notice the original item because it lacked an English label). 176.105.196.27 21:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 09:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! 176.105.196.27 08:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Alexandrine des Echrolles (Q88968792) and Alexandrine des Echrolles (Q99030199)

Same fullname, similar years, same portrait in OpenLibrary and AzlibRu. Podbrushkin (talk) 13:14, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I've merged the items. All three Wikipedia articles currently state that she lived 1779–1850 so I removed the unsourced values (1777 and 1843). –Samoasambia ✎ 19:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Q125310503 and Q125310506

Q125310506 all caps version of Q125310503. No data on either Wikidata page, other than "researcher", which is vague but can be confirmed via Google. No Wikipedia entries linked for either individual. He's listed numerous times in citations on en Wikipedia, but I didn't find a page that mentioned him outside of the References section.

In short, I see no indication that Q125310503 and Q125310506 aren't the same person. OIM20 (talk) 18:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Both persons have two papers each authored on Wikidata. Based on matching affiliations and research topics on the papers I have merged the items. –Samoasambia ✎ 19:36, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Q57082046 and Q112435201

Q112435201 links to Library of Congress ID 2010127275 which states that he graduated Wageningen Agricultural Univ with a Masters in Agricultural and Environmental Sciences, specializing in Tropical Forestry Ecology and Silivculture

Q57082046 links to ORCID 0000-0001-9579-0831 which also states that he graduated with an MSc in Forestry from Wageningen University and Research Centre.

A search on either university name leads to the WUR website.

The ORCID lists authorship on Atlas of the potential Vegetation of Ethiopia for 2010, which is also listed on ID Ref 148609570, and NUKAT linked on Q112435201.

There are more links and data on Q112435201; Q57082046 only links to the ORCID. OIM20 (talk) 18:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged, thanks for noting! –Samoasambia ✎ 19:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Q90257752 and Q54372330

Q54372330 - Jonathan E. M. Baillie is listed as one of the authors on A Global Deal For Nature: Guiding principles, milestones, and targets. If you click "Authors Info & Affiliations" a screen pops up on the right. If you click the ORCID symbol next to Jonathan E.M. Baillie it takes you to ORCID 0000-0002-4599-7524 which is the same ORCID listed on Q90257752. (It's private.)

Further, "A Global Deal For Nature" 's link to View All Articles by this Author shows "Forgotten Biodiversity in Desert Ecosystems", which is on Research Gate. Clicking on the name "Jonathan E M Baillie" in the list of 42 authors (he's last; you'll need to expand the list to see him) will take you to his RG profile which is linked on Q54372330.

These appear to be the same person. OIM20 (talk) 23:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

• ETA: Q54372330 has more links on it. OIM20 (talk) 23:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged, thanks for the research. –Samoasambia ✎ 10:11, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for all the work that you do. :) OIM20 (talk) 19:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

The Devil On Two Sticks / The Devil Upon Two Sticks (5 entries)

Q110377963: The Devil on Two Sticks, penny blood seralization; Asmodeus, the devil on two sticks
Q110379717: The Devil on Two Sticks, penny blood edition; published by William Strange, 1840; Asmodeus, the devil on two sticks

All the information in the appears to match. The difference seems to be that Q110379717 lists the publisher while Q110377963 does not, but the info on both of them all matches to data from Price One Penny # 434. Both show publication date of 1840.

Then there The Devil Upon Two Sticks with the 1842 publication date:
Q110378486: Asmodeus, the devil on two sticks, penny blood edition; published by Willoughby and Co, 1842
Q110378488: Asmodeus, the devil on two sticks, penny blood edition; Illustrated standard edition

Information on these also pulls from the same Price One Penny # 434 reference.

And finally, the one with Wikipedia pages attached: Q3222271: The Devil upon Two Sticks, book by Alain-René Lesage; Asmodeus, The Lame Devil | Le Diable boiteux
This one shows the original publication date of 1707.

If different editions are meant to have their own Wikidata page, then I request that Q110377963 and Q110379717 be merged for the 1840 publication and that Q110378486 and Q110378488 be merged for the 1842 publication.

If there is meant to be one Wikimedia entry that encompasses all of the various editions, I would ask that all 5 entries be merged into Q3222271.

I apologize if I've misunderstood how the "add value" parameter works, as I thought that would be the method of adding different publication dates for the same literary work. OIM20 (talk) 20:21, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Q19131544 and Q267962 - Alain-René Lesage

Q19131544 links to Wikisource Alain-René Le Sage (Anatole France) which lists Crispin rival de son maître from 1707 (about halfway down the page).

Q267962 links to Wikisource Alain-René Lesage which also lists Crispin rival de son maître from 1707 - first under the list of works.

Q267962 is the one with all the Wikipedia pages linked. OIM20 (talk) 20:26, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done, Alain-René Lesage (Q267962) is a person, meanwhile Q19131544 is a book chapter about him. I added a mention about the book chapter to Q267962#P1343. –Samoasambia ✎ 12:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Sergey Glinka (Q20483006) and Sergey Glinka (Q557124)

Same full name and years Podbrushkin (talk) 14:50, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged. Michgrig (talk) 19:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Djamel-Dini Aboudou (Q107586042) and Djamel-Dini Aboudou (Q31271342)

Same full name and years Zboris (talk) 12:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

 Merged –Samoasambia ✎ 15:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Q98489785 and Q11315737

Maybe a mistake but I read on internet there is only a Vienna Agreement (Arrangement de Vienne) of 1973 (often revised) on intellectual rights for protection of typography and graphic charter.--Favete linguistis (talk) 14:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Q105727509 and Q96474707

Same concept.--Favete linguistis (talk) 19:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)