Property talk:P1535

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Jmabel in topic Why a special case for "armiger"?

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used by
item or concept that makes use of the subject (use sub-properties when appropriate)
Descriptionthe person or organization that uses an object or a facility
Representsuser (Q613354)
Data typeItem
Domainall (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed valuesall (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Exampleremote control (Q185091)television watcher (Q3982960)
Maronite rite (Q3433298)Maronite Church (Q64900)
paintbrush (Q193897)painter (Q1028181)
caduceus (Q238577)no label (Q63990613)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1535 (Q23909018)
Tracking: local yes, WD noCategory:P1535 absent in Wikidata (Q101364533)
See alsooccupant (P466), has use (P366), practiced by (P3095), operator (P137)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total33,221
Main statement16,63150.1% of uses
Qualifier16,57249.9% of uses
Reference18<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1535#Scope, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase property (Q29934218): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1535#Entity types

duplicate

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@Micru:/@Jakec: this is a duplicate of occupant (P466). Michiel1972 (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

This is not exactly the same, it allows to say:
⟨ Batmobile (Q19958)      ⟩ used by (P1535)   ⟨ Batman (Q2695156)      ⟩
 :) --Micru (talk) 21:27, 21 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Confusing descriptions

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The table above says, first, "item or concept that makes use of the subject..." but then "the person or organization". Same difference between :en and :de subtitles. Which is the intended meaning (any item vs. humans and organizations) - ? Retired electrician (talk) 16:42, 7 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Overzealous constraint?

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This property is often used to mean "used by members of the class", as in sleight of hand (Q350834)used by (P1535)entertainer (Q138858). In these cases, the inverse constraint does not apply. We should either remove the constraint, or split the property. Likewise for uses (P2283). Swpb (talk) 15:50, 24 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Eventual new property

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@Micru, Emw, Eurodyne: Dear participants in the discussion about the creation of the property and @Andrew J.Kurbiko, Fractaler: (who mostly used this property at the moment), I'm here with @Alexmar983: and we were looking for a property to codify which specific categories of people can access a place or institution. This is the only one which seems close but it does not communicate the sense of constraint (e.g. if we want to say that only male (Q6581097) can access Mount Athos (Q130321), this property doesn't seem to be adequate). Do you think we should create a new property (i.e. "accessible only to") or adapt this one? We are waiting for your feedback. Thank you very much, --Epìdosis 15:19, 6 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Epìdosis: May be access restriction status (P7228) fit better ?. I'm not sure. Amadalvarez (talk) 16:36, 6 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Amadalvarez: access restriction status (P7228) seems only related to texts. --Epìdosis 16:41, 6 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
that one is related to collections of artworks and documents in general, if I read correctly (maybe it can be better specified) but it should be a specific case of this future missing general property. Still, there is some order missing for functional long-term use, it's the typical situation where people start to force one use or another that were originally not planned.--Alexmar983 (talk) 17:49, 6 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Why a special case for "armiger"?

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seems very odd to me. - Jmabel (talk) 02:33, 13 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

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