Talk:Q17101881

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Alarob

Autodescription — Jedem das Seine (Q17101881)

description: idiomatic German expression for several centuries, cynically phrase used by the Nazis displayed over the entrance of Buchenwald concentration camp
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I am trying to straighten out confusion between this item, the German phrase "Jedem das Seine" (Q17101881) and the Latin version of the phrase, "Suum cuique" (Q629199). Some wikis translate the meaning of the phrase ("to each his own"/"may all have their due") into their own language.

The two items are closely related and some wikis cover them in a single article. In English, though, Q629199 deals with the classical concept and the use of the Latin phrase as a motto, while Q17101881 deals with the appropriation of the German translation as a Nazi death camp slogan, with subsequent controversies over the use of the now toxic phrase.

There is no obvious criterion for sorting the articles that are named in their wiki language rather than Latin or German. Generally, though, I would favor linking the article on the older phrase, Q629199. — Alarob (talk) 21:20, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Maybe this is a case of one wiki (enwiki) having two articles on one Wikidata item? How should we handle a case like that? Force the two enwiki articles to merge? — Alarob (talk) 21:28, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

@Alarob: Maybe english Wikipedia has two articles on same topic and they should be merged in Wikipedia. If happened we can merge the topics here too :) . Regards and thank you, Conny (talk) 18:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC).Reply
Find this sample for same problem on other topic. Conny (talk) 18:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC).Reply
Thanks, @Conny:. I do not think the two enwiki articles are about the same thing. Anyway, if I did combine the two articles, nothing would prevent someone else separating them again in the future.
Translations (e.g., this German translation of a Latin motto) probably fit awkwardly into Wikidata, as it's assumed that articles in different languages are identical with translations of Wikidata objects. But for instance, Khayyam's Rubaiyat is not the same object as FitzGerald's translations of Khayyam's Rubaiyat. Maybe that's the case I should look at next.
I'm a complete newbie at Wikidata classification, so your advice is appreciated. — Alarob (talk) 17:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)Reply
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