Talk:Q2088357
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Infovarius in topic Collective authors
Autodescription — musical ensemble (Q2088357)
description: group of people who perform instrumental and/or vocal music, with the ensemble typically known by a distinct name
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Annulation eihel vs. infovarius - 30 juillet 2018 edit
Hello @Infovarius,
First thing, sorry for my english and thank you for your justified change (it was to change a P86 violation). If you find this Statement inappropriate, you have to make it identical in Q19881657 (vocal-musical ensemble) and if you choose P1889 (different from in english), you must also make it identical on the other Element.
Best regards. --Eihel (talk) 13:05, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Eihel: but vocal-musical ensemble (Q29881657) is already a subclass of musical ensemble (Q2088357) (through musical group (Q215380)) so it should be enough for distinguishing (we don't want to add "different from" with all ontological parents, do we?). --Infovarius (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hello @Infovarius:,
- First of all :
- vocal-musical ensemble (Q29881657) is subclass of musical ensemble (Q2088357) through musical group (Q215380) : YES, TRUE
- it should be enough for distinguishing : YES, TRUE
- we don't want to add "different from" with all ontological parents : CERTAINLY NOT
- I said :
- I did a test to change a composer (P86) violation. I don't know the sentence in your language, but it looks like that : « This instruction presents potential problems », next to a property value. In my test, I marked both items (vocal-musical ensemble (Q29881657) and musical ensemble (Q2088357)) with the same property, said to be the same as (P460). This to avoid the sentence « This instruction presents potential problems ».
- Then :
- You do that.
- If you do that, you have to do that. It goes in pairs
. - Best regards. --Eihel (talk) 23:13, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Collective authors edit
@Daask: I am bit confused by adding Q60557909. Musicians of an ensemble are not authors, they are performers. Infovarius (talk) 19:33, 4 November 2022 (UTC)