Talk:Q2981

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Dcflyer in topic WorldCat entities

WorldCat entities

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@Dcflyer: these properties are here for a specific purpose: to prevent a warning message from displaying due to missing property. Please see Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2023/07#WorldCat Entities for French churches for the discussion that led to this decision. Elizium23 (talk) 17:03, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

:I thank @Carnby for discovering the issue and bringing it to public attention. Elizium23 (talk) 17:05, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

What is the issue? What was brought to "public attention"? DCflyer* (talk) 17:19, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
If the "warning message" in question is a suggestion constraint (Q62026391) violation of WorldCat Identities ID (superseded) (P7859)'s item-requires-statement constraint (Q21503247) of property (P2306) WorldCat Entities ID (P10832), there is no issue as WorldCat Identities ID (superseded) (P7859) is deprecated on these two items. DCflyer* (talk) 17:12, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
We prefer to suppress the warning message by properly indicating that the new property has no value, because it has been removed from the database. Are you trying to claim that it's better to just leave warning icons hanging around, and keep explaining them as "spurious"? Elizium23 (talk) 17:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
What is the specific warning message? DCflyer* (talk) 17:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
There are no "warning icons hanging around" DCflyer* (talk) 17:22, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
See Eiffel Tower (Q243). Elizium23 (talk) 17:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
WorldCat Identities ID (superseded) (P7859) is not deprecated for Eiffel Tower (Q243). DCflyer* (talk) 17:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
You asked what the warning message is. Do you want me to slog through more items until I find a deprecated one too? Elizium23 (talk) 17:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
There is no need to look for additional items. What is the specific "warning message" for this item?
If you cannot specifically point it out, there is no issue. However, you proceeded to edit war and create constraint violations for the property in question (WorldCat Entities ID (P10832)). Those are the genuine issues. DCflyer* (talk) 18:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Muséum de Toulouse (Q422), Lugdunum Musée et Théâtres (Q509) has two IDs that are both invalid. Are these deprecated? Elizium23 (talk) 17:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
WorldCat Identities ID (superseded) (P7859) is marked deprecated for Muséum de Toulouse (Q422); the property is not marked deprecated for Lugdunum Musée et Théâtres (Q509). None of the values are invalid (except for what appears to be conflation for Lugdunum Musée et Théâtres (Q509). Instead, the values were potentially superseded. DCflyer* (talk) 18:01, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
FYI: your addition of no value claims for WorldCat Entities ID (P10832) for this item and for Notre Dame du Haut (Q638250) has created format violations : Constraint_violations/P10832 DCflyer* (talk) 17:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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