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Structured Data - early depicts testing

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The Structured Data on Commons development team has the very basic version of depicts statements available for early testing on Test-Commons. You can add very basic depicts statements to the file page by going into the new “Structured Data” tab located below the "Open in Media Viewer button." You can use the Latest Files link in the left side nav bar to select existing images, or use the UploadWizard to upload new ones to test with (although those images won’t actually show up on the site). The test site is not a fully functional replica of Commons, so there may be some overall problems in using the site, but you should be able to get a general idea of what using the feature is like.

Early next week I will call for broad, community-wide testing of the feature similar to what we did for Captions, with instructions for testing, known bugs, and a dedicated space to discuss the feature as well as a simple help page for using statements. Until then, you're welcome to post on the SDC talk page with what you might find while testing depicts.

Thanks in advance for trying it out, you'll be hearing more from me next week. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 22:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

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Structured Data - development update, March 2019

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This text is also posted on the Structured Data hub talk page. You can reply there with questions, comments, or concerns.

A development update for the current work by the Structured Data on Commons team:

After the release of multilingual file captions, work began on getting depicts and other statements ready for release. These were originally scheduled for release in February and into March, however there are currently two major blockers to finishing this work (T215642, T217157). We will know more next week about when depicts and statements can likely be ready for testing and then release; until then I've tentatively updated the release schedule.

Once the depicts feature is ready for testing, it will take place in two stages on TestCommons. The first is checking the very basics; is the design comfortable, how does the simple workflow of adding/editing/removing statements work, and building up help and process pages from there. The second part is a more detailed test of depicts and other statements, checking the edge-case examples of using the features, bugs that did not come up during simple testing, etc. Additionally we'll be looking with the community for bugs in interaction with bots, gadgets, and other scripts once the features are live on Commons. Please let me know if you're interesting in helping test and fix these bugs if they show up upon release, it is really hard to find them in a test environment or, in some cases, bugs won't show up in a testing environment at all.

One new thing is definitely coming within the next few weeks, pending testing: the ability to search for captions. This is done using the inlabel keyword in search strings, and will be the first step in helping users find content that is specifically structured data. I'll post a notice when that feature is live and ready for use.

Thanks, let me know if you have questions about these plans. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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Structured Data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)

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Hi all, following up on last month's announcement...

Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9 November or Thursday, 10 November 2019. Captions are a feature to add short, translatable descriptions to files. Here's some links you might want to look follow before the release, if you haven't already:

  1. Read over the help page for using captions - I wrote the page on mediawiki.org because captions are available for any MediaWiki user, feel free to host/modify a copy of the page here on Commons.
  2. Test out using captions on Beta Commons.
  3. Leave feedback about the test on the captions test talk page, if you have anything you'd like to say prior to release.

Additionally, there will be an IRC office hour on Thursday, 10 January with the Structured Data team to talk about file captions, as well as anything else the community may be interested in. Date/time conversion, as well as a link to join, are on Meta.

Thanks for your time, I look forward to seeing those who can make it to the IRC office hour on Thursday. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Skim (talkcontribs)
Dcflyer (talkcontribs)

Hi, Thank you for removing that statement/claim.

I created it because I was working on and with an item that uses the item Město (Q23859550) for its claim of “described by source.” When I examined Město (Q23859550), I noticed that for its claim of “published in,” a value type constraint violation existed regarding Ottův slovník naučný (Q2041543) : “Values of published in statements should be instances of work or group of works (or of a subclass of them), but Ottův slovník naučný currently isn’t.”

I will research how to eliminate, if it is possible, this constraint violation for editions, versions, and translations of a work or group of works, without creating instances or subclasses of them.

Thanks, Dcflyer (talk) 20:08, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Skim (talkcontribs)

ok, i understand.

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The Structured Data on Commons team has begun beta testing of the first feature, multilingual file captions, and all community members are invited to test it out. Captions is based on designs discussed with the community and the team is looking forward to hearing about testing. If all goes well during testing, captions will be turned on for Commons around the second week of January, 2019.

Multilingual captions are plain text fields that provide brief, easily translatable details of a file in a way that is easy to create, edit, and curate. Captions are added during the upload process using the UploadWizard, or they can be added directly on any file page on Commons. Adding captions in multiple languages is a simple process that requires only a few steps.

The details:

  • There is a help page available on how to use multilingual file captions.
  • Testing will take place on Beta Commons. If you don’t yet have an account set up there, you’ll need one.
  • Beta Commons is a testbed, and not configured exactly like the real Commons site, so expect to see some discrepancies with user interface (UI) elements like search.
  • Structured Data introduces the potential for many important page changes to happen at once, which could flood the recent changes list. Because of this, Enhanced Recent Changes is enabled as it currently is at Commons, but with some UI changes.
  • Feedback and commentary on the file caption functionality are welcome and encouraged on the discussion page for this post.
  • Some testing has already taken place and the team are aware of some issues. A list of known issues can be seen below.
  • If you discover a bug/issue that is not covered in the known issues, please file a ticket on Phabricator and tag it with the “Multimedia” tag. Use this link to file a new task already tagged with "Multimedia."

Known issues:

Thanks!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk), for the Structured Data on Commons Team 20:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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Fralambert (talkcontribs)

Tes contributions sont généralement très bonnes, que tu me choques un peu en me traitant de traquage.

J'ai simplement été informé par mes notifications parce que j'ai créé recognized heritage immovable (Q13790797). Sinon, le Cimetière Saint-Charles (Q24934503) n'est pas cité. Ça retouche un peut à ce que j'ai dit avec le Theatre Empire.

Sinon, la façon qui Wikibase est construite, annulé une action est malheureusement la meilleure façon de laisser un message d'explication. Désolé si tu as trouvé ça trop brutal.

Fralambert (talkcontribs)

Salut, j'ai créé no label (Q57584014) et no label (Q57584209), je pense que ça devrait bien couvrir 95000 biens qui n'ont pas de statuts patrimoniaux.

Tu peux le trouver des labels en anglais si tu veux. Je suis pas le plus confortable dans cette langue. (Tu peux aussi me répondre en anglais, j'ai pas de problème)

P.S. Je t'invite à aussi ajouter ton {{#babel:}} comme expliqué sur Wikidata:Userboxes. C'est pratique à ceux qui veulent parler dans quelle langue tu veux qu'on t'écrive.

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Fralambert (talkcontribs)

J'ai réglé de la violation de contrainte de Empire Theatre (Q38601918) en le mettant dans la liste des exceptions de Quebec cultural heritage directory ID (P633). Bon je me suis toujours demandé s'il ne serait pas mieux de créer une nouvelle propriété, vue la double nature registre/inventaire du répertoire du patrimoine culturel.

P.S.: Est-ce que tu peux annulé ton dernier revers, je veux pas partir dans une guerre d'édition.

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Dcflyer (talkcontribs)

I will definitely read this discussion. Thank you for making me aware of it. I agree with you, for this item and others, as well, in the apparent lack of logic behind the inclusion of a constraint which triggers a conflict when both of these two properties are utilized in statements for a particular item.

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