Topic on User talk:HakanIST

Selamlar, Hakan ve Interfase! Could you help to differentiate saddlebag (Q1346922) (English label now: "saddlebag") and saddle bag (Q21686811) (English label now: "saddle bag")?

1. I think that Q21686811 should probably get a more specific label and description, also it needs a subclass of (P279) statement.
2. Perhaps saddlebag (Q1346922) should better be connected to c:Category:Saddle bags rather than to c:Category:Khurjuns?
3. And should c:Category:Khurjuns be a subcategory of c:Category:Saddle bags?
4. And to which category could these four files be sorted?

Size çok teşekkür ederim!

Interfase, thank you for your answer at my talk page. I'd like to keep the discussion at one place, thus I copy it here:

The second is called Heyba, it is similar to Khurjun (which is first) but it is different thing. In English both of them are saddle bags. --Interfase (talk) 18:15, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

@Interfase: The majority of sitelinks at saddlebag (Q1346922) obviously don't refer to Khurjun, e.g. en:Saddlebag, same for the labels, IDs and other statements. Should those that refer to Khurjun, probably the sitelink to az:Xurcun and the links to c:Category:Khurjuns perhaps be moved to a new item?

pinging @Vito Genovese and @Basak as experts on the topic.

Thank you for the ping. I am by no means an expert, but let me provide here what I've come up with.

There are some Kyrgyz into Turkish dictionaries online that refer to Khurjun as "traditional Kyrgyz saddlebag" and provide the Turkish equivalent as "heybe." I don't think a derivative of the word Khurjun exists in Turkish, but we apparently do have a word that is exclusive to saddlebags of camels, which is "Havut". My understanding is that "Heybe" is more or less the equivalent of "Saddlebag." I have yet to understand the distinction of Khurjun, but it is obviously not limited to camels. You guys are the experts in such categorizations, but my spidey senses tell me to establish a Saddlebag - Heybe correspondence and treat Khurjun, Havut, and what have you as special subtypes.

Sağol! So we:

1. create a new item for "Khurjun",
2. move az:Xurcun and c:Category:Khurjuns from saddlebag (Q1346922) there and
3. state new itemsubclass of (P279)  saddlebag (Q1346922)?
4. And then merge saddlebag (Q1346922) and saddle bag (Q21686811)?

@Interfase: Or perhaps you can try to point out the difference between the things described at az:Xurcun and az:Heybə for us? You seem to have the language skills. :-) Sağ olun önceden!