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IPA in lexemes edit
Hi! I noticed you added some Russian lexemes with IPA. Could you please add in IPA brackets? Either [] or // according to what's proper. Like this. Also please note that we cannot copy definitions from Wiktionary due to licence problem. KaMan (talk) 12:14, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Why do I need to add brackets? You can add it using a template or script. Slashes /fubar/ is typically used for phonemic transcriptions, and square brackets [fubar] for phonetic transcriptions. Wikidata IPA transcription (P898) property is related to phonetics. Therefore, it will always be enclosed in square brackets. Don Rumata 13:10, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- That's exactly what I mean. People are using IPA transcription (P898) for both phonetic and pfonemic IPAs. Without brackets it is not possible to distinguish. KaMan (talk) 13:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- So suggest a new property proposal. Don Rumata 13:34, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- I don't need new property. I use only phonetic IPA but I say what I saw in lexemes. People put there both [] and //. See gronostaj (L21318) for example. KaMan (talk) 13:38, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- This is wrong! Only different dialects (American English (Q7976), British English (Q7979)) should be there. Don Rumata 13:46, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- I don't need new property. I use only phonetic IPA but I say what I saw in lexemes. People put there both [] and //. See gronostaj (L21318) for example. KaMan (talk) 13:38, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- So suggest a new property proposal. Don Rumata 13:34, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- That's exactly what I mean. People are using IPA transcription (P898) for both phonetic and pfonemic IPAs. Without brackets it is not possible to distinguish. KaMan (talk) 13:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- I second the request by KaMan to include brackets to indicate whether the transcription is phonetic or phonemic. The property IPA transcription (P898) is not specifically intended for either type of transcription, so this needs to be indicated. If you think there should be two properties, then feel free to propose another, but until that property is created please indicate the transcription type with the correct brackets so that it is clear to users. —Rua (mew) 14:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Also, there is a discussion on Property talk:P898. —Rua (mew) 14:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- It is not machine readable. As you can see, I am not the only one who suggests you to separate the properties. Don Rumata 14:18, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- Do you propose to add brackets to Slavistic Phonetic Alphabet transcription (P5276) also? Don Rumata 14:27, 20 November 2018 (UTC)