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Best regards, Ajraddatz (Talk) 15:25, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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謝謝校正，來Wikidata:互助客棧談一下日後的繁簡處理吧～J^C1 10:54, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikisource-items

Please, halt! Wikisource-items should not be merged in the same way as Wikipedia-items! See Wikidata:Wikisource. -- Lavallen (talk) 08:24, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

As you see, is there a lot of items linked by has edition or translation (P747) in United States Declaration of Independence (Q127912). They are supposed to solve the interwiki for us later. Until it's technically possible to use that system, we have to restore the old-style-interwiki. This far, is it only disambigs and Author-related pages (if you do not have a Author-namespace) in ns-0, who should use Wikidata for interwiki. -- Lavallen (talk) 08:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I do not know how familiar you are with Wikisource, but we sometimes have several editions of the same text in one project. The Anthem of Finland, s:sv:Vårt land has one version in Swedish on sv.wikisource, but four versions on fi.wikisource. There are tools to compare each of these Finnish version with the Swedish. We also have the possibility to compare the Swedish translation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights from 1948 to one from ~2005, to see how the Swedish language have changed. (It has changed a lot.)

Another important thing is that a Swedish version of a text do not have the same Author as the English or French version. To be able to add different statements to different versions, we need separate items. -- Lavallen (talk) 12:49, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, there are two problems with that.

1. We want to have an open structure here, as open as possible. Therefor is it possible to add "Liverpool Football Club" as capital of "Julius Ceasar". Of course a football club can never be the capital of a person, but that it's possible makes it easier to design this database as we like it. To prevent football-clubs from being capital of persons, we have a what we call "constraints" and a lot of external tools to detect bad logic here.

2. WD:WS also contains some exceptions. Some Wikisource-projects like dews and fiws have author-pages in their main namespace. The related items in those cases can have sitelinks to several projects in one item. And there are also disambigs like in Q7813. The link to s:sv:FN:s deklaration om de mänskliga rättigheterna is to a disambig-page. Not a disambig in the manner we are used to on Wikipedia, but to a page describing links to two versions of one text. In Q7813 is there only one such link, but there can technically be more than one.

So, yes, people will do a lot of mistakes here. As late as today I restored an item that lack Wikipedia-notability, but have Wikisource-notability. It was deleted by an admin, I think, who do not have much experince with Wikisource. When this project have evolved further, I hope the users understand that they cannot take their experience from Wikipedia and implement them here. This project is just a little older than one year, but we tend to add policys and apply them like this project is mature. We are still testing to see how things work... -- Lavallen (talk) 09:26, 19 February 2014 (UTC)