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instance of (P31)中文名,我建议投票吧 edit

RT,反正英语里叫“instance of”,过去几年一直也没吵出结果。 Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Makecat, Stevenliuyi, Tntchn, Hat600, Bzh-99, Li3939108:@Jimmy Xu, Liangent, Jusjih, Ericliu1912, GZWDer, Xiaomingyan:@Niuxg, 金亦天, Wylve, Davidzdh, Lcy2000, CG19880908:@Camouflaged Mirage, LuciferianThomas, Tangxiaobaobao, Kanashimi, D1gggg, Neo-Jay:@Allenwang6212a, Assanges, 迴廊彼端, Shizhao, 白布飘扬, Xyb:@Kethyga, Bangbang.S, Anhkiet078, 虹色分子, KOKUYO: --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:37, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
從“别名”欄目裏面選嗎?——也就是從“是一個 屬於 ∈ 是一个 性質 属于 隶属于 是...的一个实例 類別 所属的类”裏面選?還是說從哪裏投票? - I am Davidzdh. 11:58, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
關鍵是這屬性中文名經常改來改去太煩人。一會性質又一會屬於的,沒個搞頭。 Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
没见过过往讨论,只找到一则意见。“隶属于”和“属于”我觉得都行,“性质”适合作别名、子集,因为有时不能表达成员之一的意思——如果该属性确实有这个意思。比如“某部队一支队”隶属于“某部队”,但“性质”不是某部队。 YFdyh000 (talk) 09:28, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
这个属性的意思其实就是“是...的一个实例”(例如“大熊猫”是“生物分类单元”的一个实例)。“性质”与这个意思差别太大,“隶属于”和“属于”都可以,但“属于”会与of (P642)混淆 Shizhao (talk) 12:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
如果有更好的说法就更好了 Shizhao (talk) 12:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
P642也是我开这个话题的原因之一,毕竟其正在被弃用Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
“某部队一支队”隶属于“某部队”的情况应该用part of (P361)(或part of (P361)的子属性parent organization (P749))而不是instance of (P31)。单独看感觉用“隶属于”、“属于”翻译instance of (P31)是可以,只是太容易和part of (P361)(现在译为“从属于”)混淆了,很容易误用。 Stevenliuyi (talk) 18:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
同Stevenliuyi,“某部队一支队”从属于“某部队”,隶属于“军队”(“某部队一支队”是“军队”的一个实例)。具体名字上,我并不认为“隶属于”、“属于”是一个非常好的翻译,但我一时想不出更合适的翻译,所以退而求其次,只能选“隶属于”、“属于”,二者中“隶属于”更贴近本意一些。(或者翻译成“为其实例”是否更贴切?但可能太拗口,不容易理解) Shizhao (talk) 02:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
总体来说,wikidata这类知识图谱的关系表达方式,可能受到英文影响太大,基本都是用英文语法关系来表达,对中文语法不是很友好 Shizhao (talk) 02:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Stevenliuyi, Shizhao part of (P361)现已改译为“所属实体” Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
"是一個"
Category:Railway lines opened in 1841 (Q8626436)“是一個”Wikimedia category (Q4167836)RZuo (talk) 10:25, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
"是一個"虽然应用起来比较通畅,但是并不好理解他的意指 Shizhao (talk) 10:59, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
基于如上讨论,我  Support隶属于。 Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:51, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
“隶属于”有明显歧义,“是一个”在编辑时难以提示编者,个人建议还是直译“是...的一个实例”,先满足功用的要求…… --212.107.29.86 14:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
未免太机翻控了吧? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:06, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
没有更多异议的话,就以“-{隶属于}-(简体)/-{隸屬於}-(繁體)”公示了吧。--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:54, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Do you use Wikidata in Wikimedia sibling projects? Tell us about your experiences edit

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English.

Hello, the Wikidata for Wikimedia Projects team at Wikimedia Deutschland would like to hear about your experiences using Wikidata in the sibling projects. If you are interested in sharing your opinion and insights, please consider signing up for an interview with us in this Registration form.
Currently, we are only able to conduct interviews in English.

The front page of the form has more details about what the conversation will be like, including how we would compensate you for your time.

For more information, visit our project issue page where you can also share your experiences in written form, without an interview.
We look forward to speaking with you, Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

寫法疑問 edit

各位前輩,請問Template:Repurposed當中爲何寫(改)成①:

  • |zh|zh-my|zh-sg|zh-cn|zh-hans = 改作他用
  • |yue|zh-mo|zh-hk|zh-tw|zh-hant = 改作他用

與②:

  • |zh = 改作他用
  • |yue = 改作他用

或③:

  • |zh|yue = 改作他用

效果分別有何差別?

其中第一行(④)爲何如此設定:

  • |zh|zh-my|zh-sg|zh-cn|zh-hans = 改作他用

與⑤:

  • |zh-my|zh-sg|zh-cn|zh-hans|zh = 改作他用

或⑥:

  • |zh|zh-hans|zh-cn|zh-sg|zh-my = 改作他用

效果有無差別? Gohan 07:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

如何編輯介面項目名稱? edit

如題,例如側邊欄項目,乃至偏好設定項目名稱。 Gohan 07:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

-{R|https://translatewiki.net/}- ,如果不是站内MediaWiki命名空间做覆盖。 YFdyh000 (talk) 07:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
謝謝。 Gohan 12:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

請協助幫忙刪除Lexeme:L1312979 edit

如題,不小心操作錯誤了,正確應是Q124846190,但找不到詞位刪除的地方。 Z7504 (talk) 15:40, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

本wiki即將切換至只讀模式 edit

Trizek (WMF), 00:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply