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Feedback wanted on Desktop Improvements projectEdit

Please help translate to your language

Hello. The Readers Web team at the WMF will work on some improvements to the desktop interface over the next couple of years. The goal is to increase usability without removing any functionality. We have been inspired by changes made by volunteers, but that currently only exist as local gadgets and user scripts, prototypes, and volunteer-led skins. We would like to begin the process of bringing some of these changes into the default experience on all Wikimedia projects.

We are currently in the research stage of this project and are looking for ideas for improvements, as well as feedback on our current ideas and mockups. So far, we have performed interviews with community members at Wikimania. We have gathered lists of previous volunteer and WMF work in this area. We are examining possible technical approaches for such changes.

We would like individual feedback on the following:

Identifying focus areas for the project we have not yet discovered
Expanding the list of existing gadgets and user scripts that are related to providing a better desktop experience. If you can think of some of these from your wiki, please let us know
Feedback on the ideas and mockups we have collected so far

We would also like to gather a list of wikis that would be interested in being test wikis for this project - these wikis would be the first to receive the updates once we’re ready to start building.

When giving feedback, please consider the following goals of the project:

Make it easier for readers to focus on the content
Provide easier access to everyday actions (e.g. search, language switching, editing)
Put things in logical and useful places
Increase consistency in the interface with other platforms - mobile web and the apps
Eliminate clutter
Plan for future growth

As well as the following constraints:

Not touching the content - no work will be done in terms of styling templates or to the structure of page contents themselves
Not removing any functionality - things might move around, but all navigational items and other functionality currently available by default will remain
No drastic changes to the layout - we're taking an evolutionary approach to the changes and want the site to continue feeling familiar to readers and editors

Please give all feedback (in any language) at mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements

After this round of feedback, we plan on building a prototype of suggested changes based on the feedback we receive. You’ll hear from us again asking for feedback on this prototype.

Thank you! Quiddity (WMF) (talk)

06:53, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

"Archivi e biblioteche d'autore. Bibliografia" e ScholiaEdit

Ciao! Come posso rendere leggibili da Scholia i dati del corpus "Archivi e biblioteche d'autore. Bibliografia"? Cosa posso aggiungere agli item? GrazieAlessandra Boccone (talk) 09:34, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Account TwitterEdit

Carissimi, vi segnalo che ho creato l'account Twitter per Wikidata in italiano: https://twitter.com/WikidataI. Buon 2020 a tutti! --Epìdosis 13:58, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Movement Learning and Leadership Development ProjectEdit

Hello

The Wikimedia Foundation’s Community Development team is seeking to learn more about the way volunteers learn and develop into the many different roles that exist in the movement. Our goal is to build a movement informed framework that provides shared clarity and outlines accessible pathways on how to grow and develop skills within the movement. To this end, we are looking to speak with you, our community to learn about your journey as a Wikimedia volunteer. Whether you joined yesterday or have been here from the very start, we want to hear about the many ways volunteers join and contribute to our movement.

To learn more about the project, please visit the Meta page. If you are interested in participating in the project, please complete this simple Google form. Although we may not be able to speak to everyone who expresses interest, we encourage you to complete this short form if you are interested in participating!

-- LMiranda (WMF) (talk) 19:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Premi stregaEdit

Buongiorno a tutti, Volevo dirvi che stavo giocando un po' con Wikidata Query Service ed ho creato una query per estrarre i dati riguardanti i vincitori del premio Strega.

SELECT ?item ?title ?autoreLabel ?pubblicazione ?data_premio_strega ?genreLabel ?casa_editriceLabel ?itemLabel WHERE {
  ?item  wdt:P166 wd:Q731542. #premio ricevuto è premio strega
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en". }
  FILTER ( ?istanza != wd:Q5 ) #non è un umano (il premio su wikidata è assegnato sia ai libri vincitori che agli autori). Ci deve essere un modo migliore di selezionare solo i libri ma non l'ho trovato
  FILTER ( ?tipopremio = wd:Q731542 ) #il premio è premio strega (questo l'ho dovuto inserire altrimenti ricevevo tutti i premi
  OPTIONAL { ?item p:P166 ?premio . ?premio pq:P585 ?data_premio_strega ; ps:P166 ?tipopremio } #questo artifizio serve per estrarre solo il dato di anno di assegnazione del premio (che spesso è diverso dalla data di pubblicazione)
  
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P577 ?pubblicazione. } #anno di pubblicazione
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P31 ?istanza. }  #l'istanza su cui fare la query
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P50 ?autore. }  #nome dell'autore
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P136 ?genre. }  #genere del libro
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P123 ?casa_editrice. } #casa editrice
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P1476 ?title } #titolo originale
}

 ORDER BY ?data_premio_strega #ordinato per data di assegnazione del premio (non per data di pubblicazione)

Try it!

Se avete consigli da darmi, sarei felicissimo.

Luckyz (talk) 10:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Luckyz:

Items used: Strega Prize (Q731542) , human (Q5) , written work (Q47461344)

Properties used: award received (P166) , instance of (P31) , subclass of (P279) , publication date (P577) , author (P50) , genre (P136) , publisher (P123) , for work (P1686) , point in time (P585)

SELECT
  ?item ?itemLabel 
  (GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT ?autoreLabel; separator=", ") as ?autoreLabel_ )
  (MIN(YEAR(?pubblicazione)) as ?pubblicazione_ ) 
  (MIN(YEAR(?data_premio_strega)) as ?data_premio_strega_ ) 
  (GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT ?genreLabel; separator=", ") as ?genreLabel_ ) 
  (GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT ?casa_editriceLabel; separator=", ") as ?casa_editriceLabel_ ) 
WHERE
{
    BIND( wd:Q731542 as ?tipopremio )
    ?item  wdt:P166 ?tipopremio. MINUS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q5 } 
#alternativa2:  ?item  wdt:P166 ?tipopremio . hint:Prior hint:runFirst true . ?item  wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q47461344 . 
#alternativa:   ?autore p:P166 ?st . ?st pq:P1686 ?item ; ps:P166 ?tipopremio . ?autore wdt:P31 wd:Q5 .
    OPTIONAL { ?item p:P166 ?premio . ?premio pq:P585 ?data_premio_strega ; ps:P166 ?tipopremio } 
    OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P577 ?pubblicazione. } 
    OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P50 ?autore }  #nome dell'autore
    OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P136 ?genre }  #genere del libro
    OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P123 ?casa_editrice } #casa editrice
    SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "it,[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en" .
                           # necessario per GROUP BY/GROUP_CONCAT: 
                           ?item rdfs:label ?itemLabel .
                           ?autore rdfs:label ?autoreLabel .
                           ?genre rdfs:label ?genreLabel .
                           ?casa_editrice rdfs:label ?casa_editriceLabel . 
                           }
}
GROUP BY ?item ?itemLabel 
ORDER BY ?data_premio_strega

Try it!

Nice query. I did a few tweaks above. "GROUP BY" avoids multiple lines due to multiple values for some properties, notably genre (P136) and publisher (P123).

If you have questions in Italian about the changes, I can try to answer them in English. BTW there is Wikidata:Request_a_query with some specialists commenting. --- Jura 12:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Super! Thanks --Luckyz (talk) 13:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Luckyz: to answer your question on my talk page. I added another option in the above query. Queries with "*" tend to time-out. --- Jura 17:34, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Luckyz: Per avere un risultato grafico molto gradevole prova a portare la query in http://histropedia.com/timeline/. Ciao Susanna Giaccai (talk) 11:35, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

History of the booksEdit

Hi, do you think it might be right to use the two items for "History of the book": Q15873402 and Q998434?--Alessandra Boccone (talk) 07:29, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Questo bar è in italiano. Ho unito i due elementi fino dove è possibile (dopo aver notato che la wikipedia in inglese aveva creato un redirect dall'uno all'altro). Non è stato possibile completare l'Help:Merge/it perché nella wikipedia in finlandese esistono due voci distinte: w:fi:Kirjahistoria (invenzione della stampa) e w:fi:Kirjojen historia (disciplina accademica). --Luckyz (talk) 08:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)