Wikidata:Property proposal/Encyclopédie berbère article ID

Encyclopédie berbère article ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Done: Encyclopédie berbère article ID (P9198) (Talk and documentation)

Description	ID for an article in the French encyclopedia about the Berbers
Represents	Encyclopédie berbère (Q2701363)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Wikibase item (Q29934200)
Allowed values	`(9\d\|[1-9]\d{2}\|[1-3]\d{3})`
Example 1	Adrar Bous (Q8553256) → 863
Example 2	Slimane Azem (Q1071259) → 213
Example 3	Saïd Cid Kaoui (Q47090996) → 2277
Example 4	Addax nasomaculatus (Q190154) → 848
Source	https://journals.openedition.org/encyclopedieberbere/78
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Immediately migrate ca. 23 article-IDs from Encyclopedie berbere keyword ID (P8472) to the new property, which will finalize their disambiguation. Sync matches from M’n’M. Continue matching on M’n’M.
Number of IDs in source	currently ca. 1391 relevant IDs; grows with new publications, sometimes every other year, sometimes two years in a row
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://journals.openedition.org/encyclopedieberbere/$1
See also	Encyclopedie berbere keyword ID (P8472) (see motivation below)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Encyclopédie berbère (Q2701363)

Motivation edit

In essence, @Moumou82 has proposed this property before. What has happened is, summarized as briefly as I can, that ca. 95% of the uses of Encyclopedie berbere keyword ID (P8472) have been, since its creation, not for articles from the Encyclopédie berbère (EB), but for keywords from its keyword index. Since, to my understanding, the use of properties should not be fundamentally changed, I have discussed and carried through a restriction of Encyclopedie berbere keyword ID (P8472) to the keywords, to bring its documentation in line with its de facto usage. (Complete discussion of this is here.)

There remain a few links to actual articles of the EB, and the initial interest shared by me and Moumou82 remains unchanged: The EB contains almost 1400 articles written by academic scholars with profound expertise in Amazigh/Berber studies, many of them freely accessible. They are invaluable sources and, I suspect, outstrip most Wikipedia articles on this topic area in accuracy.

An additional reason why I propose a second property is that I’m not in favor of immediately discarding the ca. 240 matches in Encyclopedie berbere keyword ID (P8472) to EB keywords / topics. I’m not 100% convinced that these matches are extremely useful and need to be kept, but I wouldn’t like to be hasty about that. I think with some further cleanup, Encyclopedie berbere keyword ID (P8472) can become a decently useful property.

— Linus (disc) 22:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

--Epìdosis 22:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Epìdosis: So what is your opinion? (｀・ω・´) (talk) 09:52, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I've missed

Support --Epìdosis 22:48, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support Moumou82 (talk) 10:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support RegEx corrected (id=3 exists, 1 to 3999) —Eihel (talk) 13:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding RegEx: the IDs 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 all redirect to the landing page, which is out of the intended scope of this property – an ancillary meta-page, not an article. The lowest article IDs in my scrape are 96, 98, 99 – and the highest is 2901. (When new articles are published in EB, the count should increase.) ([1-9]\d{1,2}|[1-2]\d{3})

Another note: While waiting to fall asleep last night, I remembered that the articles additionally have DOIs. They are almost certainly constructed from the IDs intended in this proposal and uploaded to M’n’M, but I mean to double-check this. Example: https://doi.org/10.4000/encyclopedieberbere.2848 resolves to https://journals.openedition.org/encyclopedieberbere/2848.

— Linus (disc) 14:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Linus Wolf: I changed the RegEx again following your message, but leaving some margin (2901 is close to 3000). —Eihel (talk) 03:35, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Linus Wolf, Moumou82, Epìdosis, -akko, Pamputt: Done Encyclopédie berbère article ID (P9198) —Eihel (talk) 04:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]