Wikidata:Property proposal/follows spelling paradigm

‎follows spelling paradigm

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Lexemes

   Done: follows spelling pattern (P12657) (Talk and documentation)

Description	spelling rule, pattern or paradigm followed by this form
Represents	spelling paradigm (Q125166496)
Data type	Item
Domain	lexeme forms, in particular forms with spelling alternatives
Example 1	websites (L1127-F2)→compound integration paradigm (Q125166647) Web sites (L1127-F4)→discrete component paradigm (Q125167184)
Example 2	Fanklub (L753321-F15)→phonographic consistency paradigm (Q125166871) Fanclub (L753321-F7)→phonographic preservation paradigm (Q125167415)
Example 3	Schawarma (L773146-F1)→phonographic consistency paradigm (Q125166871) Shawarma (L773146-F2)→phonographic preservation paradigm (Q125167415)
Example 4	غَايبَة (L706449-F2)→CODA* (Q125475705)
Example 5	Kuss (L226874-F1)→German orthography reform of 1996 (Q666027)

Motivation

Can be used to group spelling variants in a lexeme. –Shisma (talk) 10:13, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Comment @Shisma: I see you just created these spelling paradigm items. Do you have a reference on this topic? Can a form be said to follow more than one of them at the same time? Is there a comprehensive list of them somewhere? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

  @ArthurPSmith:: I have no reference. I made them all up myself. I'm open for suggestions. Yes, a form can follow more then one paradigm: for instance Shishacafé, das has all 4 combinations from the example above.–Shisma (talk) 07:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

  Ok. I mean, I think this makes some sense, but I'd be more comfortable supporting it if it was an existing standard rather than what seems like "original research" - not that we ban that, but still there are reasons to be cautious when creating something new like this... ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:19, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

  I agree. I'd expect something like this exists, but some scientific backing would be better. – Shisma (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

  @ArthurPSmith:, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

  Not ready to support without more background info, it's not something I have any special expertise in. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi all! It seems very useful to me to connect forms spelled in some way to the rules which their spelling follows. I would also like to be able to express for example:

• غَايبَة (L706449-F2)follows set of spelling rulesCODA* (Q125475705)
• Kuss (L226874-F1)follows set of spelling rulesGerman orthography reform of 1996 (Q666027)

Would this proposed property allow to express the meaning needed in the given two examples? Thanks in advance, --Marsupium (talk) 01:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

I would say that this is the case. as for the wording: I assume that a set of spelling rules could be described as spelling paradigm. 🤷

I would incorporate your examples into the proposal if you agree.– Shisma (talk) 08:01, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, including it sounds great! And thanks for the reply! --Marsupium (talk) 09:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

•  Support per discussion just above. --Marsupium (talk) 09:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
• @Shisma, ArthurPSmith, Marsupium:  Done as follows spelling pattern (P12657). Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:38, 21 April 2024 (UTC)