Property talk:P7984

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depicted format
property to help describe the format type of depicted subject, commonly confused with genre

Data type	Item
Domain	work of art (Q838948)
Example	Jester with lute (Q9850868) → half-length portrait (Q18809572) Panoramic View of Haarlem (Q20968305) → panorama (Q41363) Bird’s-eye View of Amsterdam (Q17558353) → bird's-eye view (Q1153655)
Commons example	→ three-quarter portrait (Q18809567) → portrait at bust length (Q241045) → full-length portrait (Q18809626)
See also	genre (P136), form of creative work (P7937)
Lists	Search Commons for files with property Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P7984 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 1,758 Main statement 1,747 99.4% of uses Qualifier 11 0.6% of uses
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Type “work of art (Q838948)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “work of art (Q838948)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7984#Type Q838948, SPARQL

Item “genre (P136)”: Items with this property should also have “genre (P136)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7984#Item P136, search, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7984#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7984#Entity types

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P7984#Single value, SPARQL

Name of the property

@Jane023, Thierry Caro, Animalparty, Arbnos, Trade: Sorry to reopen the discussion (I read the property proposal). I agree that this property is useful, and I understand its scope. But I just don't understand the name of this property. Format means dimensions for me, and I think it can be confusing. So I translated the property in French into type de vue which means view type and I hesitate also with vue (view) and cadrage (framing).

But I don't think it's a very good idea to not have exactly the same names across languages for property names. Do you think my proposition for view type (or type of view) is better?

Tubezlob (🙋) 09:32, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it would be better to find another English name. Thierry Caro (talk) 09:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't think view type is a very helpful term. As far as I can tell, you object to the use of the word "format" but not to the use of the word "depicted", correct? If so, then perhaps "Depicted form or view"? I think it is important to emphasis that this property refers to the depicted content and not to any dimensions. Jane023 (talk) 10:47, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Jane023: Yes, it seems better! I don't really understand why "form" (maybe because forme in French doesn't mean that, it means just "shape"), but I'm not very good in English, so that's ok!

We should create an item for the values of that property ("type of depiction", "type of representation", "type of view", something like that), because I think the use of format (Q2085518) is not very accurate. Are you ok with that? Tubezlob (🙋) 12:24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Maybe it's framing (Q204794)? Tubezlob (🙋) 12:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I got involved with something else and just found this discussion again (I was under the mistaken belief that this discussion was on the property page, so shouldn't it be moved there?). I have been using this property and noticed I wanted to make an item for "painted oval" for rectangular paintings that look like they are oval but the oval is painted on a rectangular surface. Meanwhile, we still need a property to say a painting is, in fact, oval in shape. Thoughts? Jane023 (talk) 06:44, 14 May 2020 (UTC)