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Latest comment: 8 years ago by Jc3s5h in topic Addition of martyr claim
Autodescription — Galileo Galilei (Q307)
description: Italian polymath
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Birth date
editThe birth date in virtually all sources will be stated as 15 February 1564, which is in the Julian calendar; the Gregorian calendar did not go into force until 1583. But Wikidata always stores dates in the Gregorian calendar or proleptic Gregorian calendar so the date must be converted to 25 February 1564. Jc3s5h (talk) 00:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
corrected --- Jura 15:27, 17 January 2016 (UTC)- Going through the history, I found this edit. According to the current diff display (may this is wrong), you changed Gregorian 15 to Julian 25. It would have been sufficient to change the calendar model.
--- Jura 15:33, 17 January 2016 (UTC)- At the time I made the edit, the data model stated that the date stored should always be in the Gregorian calendar, and the calendar field was a hint to display software. Sophisticated display software could have detected the Gregorian date as 25 February 1564 and the calendar as Julian, and displayed the date to the reader as "15 February 1564 Julian calendar" Since then the documentation of the data model has been changed to indicate that the data stored should be in whichever calendar the calendar field says it is in. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:09, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
"Since then the documentation of the data model has " -- seems like i missed this update. Would you mind to give a link? -- Vlsergey (talk) 17:12, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- At the time I made the edit, the data model stated that the date stored should always be in the Gregorian calendar, and the calendar field was a hint to display software. Sophisticated display software could have detected the Gregorian date as 25 February 1564 and the calendar as Julian, and displayed the date to the reader as "15 February 1564 Julian calendar" Since then the documentation of the data model has been changed to indicate that the data stored should be in whichever calendar the calendar field says it is in. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:09, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
The birth date is 25 January in Gregorian calendar and 15 February in Julian Calendar, which was the only one existed in 1564. Currently all dates in Wikidata are stored and displayed in Gregorian calendar whatever model is selected to display. Please check infobox at ruwiki article for representation after your changes. -- Vlsergey (talk) 17:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Addition of martyr claim
editThis edit asserts that Galileo was a martyr. Such a controversial claim should be accompanied by a reference to a reliable source. Therefore I have undone the edit. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:18, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, it can be doubtful. But he was punished by the Inquisition, and even may be tortured. --Infovarius (talk) 23:05, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
- Normally martyr means a person who was killed on account of his/her religion or religious beliefs. Galileo wasn't killed, he died of natural causes. More important, your opinion or my opinion doesn't matter; we would have to find a reliable source that says a certain person was a martyr before adding it to Wikidata. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:15, 10 September 2016 (UTC)