Talk:Q700216
Latest comment: 2 years ago by ThT in topic Inventory numbers in Staatliche Museen zu Berlin are per collection
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Inventory numbers in Staatliche Museen zu Berlin are per collection edit
Hi folks, for a long time I wondered if the inventory numbers for paintings in the Gemäldegalerie (Q165631) and Alte Nationalgalerie (Q162111) are unique within Staatliche Museen zu Berlin (Q700216) or per collection. Some data has been provided by the SMB and turns out the inventory numbers are really per collection. Not every entry in their data seems to contain an inventory number. They do include a SMB-digital ID (P8923) for every entry. I'll do some clean up. Multichill (talk) 10:10, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Many of your bot's created items of 2021-07 of Staatliche Museen zu Berlin (Q700216) have invalid SMB-digital ID (P8923), example:Portrait of a Man (Q107436421), Portrait of an old woman (Q107438924), Jan Uytenbogaert (1557-1644) (Q107438926), Anna Muncx (Q107435744), Radio Towers (Fürstenfeldbruck) (Q107448997), Q107448190, Nude, Woman, and Approaching Figure (Q107449988), Still Life I (Q107447981)--Oursana (talk) 23:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- And even if there is one common data base, Staatliche Museen Berlin has different collections:
- https://www.smb.museum/en/research/online-catalogues-database/
- http://www.smb-digital.de/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=867997&viewType=detailView
- https://www.smb.museum/en/museums-institutions/all-places-at-a-glance/--Oursana (talk) 23:21, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- These SMB-digital ID (P8923) are valid, they just haven't published it on their website. Why I don't know, I assume they want to do quality checks before publishing on the website. I believe the conversation is still ongoing so we'll probably get more information (and data) after the summer. Multichill (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- The inventory numbers (depending on the specific collection sometimes also called catalogue number or acquisition number; objects even can have an acquisition and an inventory number) are not only per collection, some collections can have more than one inventory number system. The SMB-digital ID (P8923) is the ObjectID in the shared database of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin, which I used in my article Mangel an Museumsknoten: Vernetzungsfähigkeit einer Gedächtnisorganisation (2019) to identify the so called Aleppo-Zimmer (Aleppo Room (Q1240477)):
- Inventory number: I. 2862
- ObjectID / SMB-digital ID (P8923): 1528427
- The ObjectID is part of the current URL in:
- SMB-digital Online-Datenbank der Sammlungen http://www.smb-digital.de/eMuseumPlus?service=ExternalInterface&module=collection&objectId=1528427&viewType=detailView
- Europeana https://www.europeana.eu/de/item/2064108/Museu_ProvidedCHO_Museum_f_r_Islamische_Kunst__Staatliche_Museen_zu_Berlin_DE_MUS_814517_1528427
- As far as I know the stable reference URL for the object will be https://id.smb.museum/object/1528427 which notation seems to be valid as permalink (Q1048975) already. Best, --ThT (talk) 12:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- The inventory numbers (depending on the specific collection sometimes also called catalogue number or acquisition number; objects even can have an acquisition and an inventory number) are not only per collection, some collections can have more than one inventory number system. The SMB-digital ID (P8923) is the ObjectID in the shared database of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin, which I used in my article Mangel an Museumsknoten: Vernetzungsfähigkeit einer Gedächtnisorganisation (2019) to identify the so called Aleppo-Zimmer (Aleppo Room (Q1240477)):
- These SMB-digital ID (P8923) are valid, they just haven't published it on their website. Why I don't know, I assume they want to do quality checks before publishing on the website. I believe the conversation is still ongoing so we'll probably get more information (and data) after the summer. Multichill (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2021 (UTC)