Hi! Excuse me for writing in English, but my (written) French has to be revised. It was a pleasure to meet you at Wikimania in Stockholm! Now I come for this reason: a user from Chechen Wikipedia (ce.wiki), Takhirgeran Umar, has just ask me how to display French departments in a newly created template, ce:Кеп:НБМ-Франци. I thought it was a simple task, then I had a look at some items (e.g. Abbaretz (Q1001990), Hazebrouck (Q11131)) and I realised there was a problem :) I also had a quick look at Wikidata talk:WikiProject France and I saw a huge amount of discussions citing located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), in particular the interesting "Surveillons les cyrillographes" about users from Belarus not understanding the modelling of located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) in French administrative unit. Given these premises, I have to ask you two questions:
- (problem of modelling) could you explain me briefly which is the reason because of which French communes have in located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) not only the just-above administrative layer, the canton, but also arrondissements and departments (and not regions)? In Italy communes have in located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) only the province (e.g. Pisa (Q13375) located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) Province of Pisa (Q16244)) and then the province has located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) for the region (e.g. Province of Pisa (Q16244) located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) Tuscany (Q1273)). Isn't that system redundant?
- (problem of the template) would you be able to find a user which can make the template read only the value of located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) which is instance of (P31) department of France (Q6465)? At the moment the template, as you can see e.g. in ce:Аббарес, reads all the three values of located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), how can we select the department only?
Thank you and excuse me for asking you to explain for the umpteenth time the same problem :( Bye!