Topic on User talk:Joshbaumgartner

Removing manufacturers again

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Summary by Joshbaumgartner

Alias updates followed the label updates, so there was a period where some terms were in neither label or alias fields. Aliases have been updated as well now. Updating alias first in future may prevent this issue.

Huntster (talkcontribs)

Josh, you're removing manufacturers again from titles without moving them to the AKAs. Please ensure that you're keeping searchability intact.

Joshbaumgartner (talkcontribs)

That is on the way, no worries.

Huntster (talkcontribs)

Copy.

Tm (talkcontribs)

Again removing manufacturers names from the main label when several users told you not to. You are a stubborn user that goes against what others have said, several times. Revert your edits if yiou still have any decency.

Tm (talkcontribs)

Yet you continue to do this, when it was clearly rejected in Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Properties#New_section_"Labels_and_descriptions" when you proposal to add this policy was rejected and yourself removed it saying that "withdrawing my proposed text which did not gain consensus in discussion".


Yet, again and now after two years you again removed the names of the manufacturers from hundreds of items that always had the manufacturer in its titles when that was rejected it he proper discussion. With this you are acting in an indecent way. Revert your edits that removed the manufacturers names if you still have a modicum of decency. ~~~~

Joshbaumgartner (talkcontribs)

I am always happy to have an objective discussion on the merits of different approaches to content. The discussion you reference reached no consensus, but that doesn't mean one can't be reached in the future, and I remain positive on that note. However, if you are going to continue your bullying and other such tactics as you have employed over the years, then that will only make things more difficult. Perhaps that is your goal, I do not know. Afterall, attacking someone's decency is a pretty low approach not fit for any real discussion on the matter.

Tm (talkcontribs)

It was only you that tried to change the policy to remove the manufacturers names from the titles and all other users that participated in Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Properties#New_section_"Labels_and_descriptions wanted to keep it. Only you being against and all others in favour of the status quo does not turn an discussion in a none consensus but a clear consensus that with your actions last month and now are subvert and trying to impose an policy proposal that was rejected by own words. so it is an clear case of bad faith against that was discussed previously.


Your actions are what are the "pretty low approach not fit for any real discussion on the matter", not other users actions to keep what was discussed. So, if you have any modicum of decency and not trying to subvert what was discussed, revert your actions that are against what was discussed in Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Aviation/Properties#New_section_"Labels_and_descriptions.

Uli Elch (talkcontribs)

@ (User:Esquilo, User:Tm, User:Huntster): As mentioned in [Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive/2023/06 - Wikidata], Joshbaumgartner has started wrongly removing hundreds of manufacturer's names from titles again, exactly as he did in 2022, 2019 and before.


Besides creating a lot of absolutely unnecessary correction work for other editors, these mass edits are close to vandalism, since a "Heron", "Horizon" or "Z-21" are incomplete, ambiguous or meaningless labels. These destructive actions of a "Man on a Mission" have to be stopped, if necessary by an administrator, to avoid future edit wars, quality destruction and damaging the reputation of Wikidata.

Joshbaumgartner (talkcontribs)

As usual, you keep singing the same tune even after administrators and others have told you that you are wrong. Hounding, edit warring, false accusations, and even hijacking a discussion thread on my talk page to continue your harassment is unfortunately to be expected from you. The issue raised in this thread has been resolved, it was a mere technical issue with aliases taking longer than labels to be updated. Have a nice day!