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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:12, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Roberpl/Archive 1 on 2018-01-16.

CrisRepCat (talkcontribs)

Buenos días

Hace unos días realicé una modificación que el propio Ignasi P.Ferré me solicitó, quiere aparecer como director de cine catalán. Esta modificación fue revertida pero no entiendo porqué. No tengo esto muy controlado todavía, creo que la volví a revertir.

Ruego se mantenga modificada, por favor

Roberpl (talkcontribs)

La convención es que se indique el estado del que la persona es ciudadano. Por ejemplo, Woody Allen aparece como "director de cine estadounidense" y como "director de cine de nueva york". Cual es la preferencia de la propia persona no lo veo relavante en esta ámbito, sino el estado del que es ciudadano.

Roberpl (talkcontribs)

Mi respuesta anterior era referida a las descripciones. En el caso de la propiedad country of citizenship (P27) el valor debe ser un estado soberano. el valor que introdujiste (Catalonia (Q11913243)) se corresponde con una página de desambiguación de Wikipedia, ni siquiera es un luagr. Entiendo que lo que querías es introducir Catalonia (Q5705) que tampoco procede por ser una comunidad autónoma y no un estado soberano.

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RexxS (talkcontribs)

In this edit today, you removed the statement "Spain is a country". That's not a good idea, because every piece of code that relies on Q29 having a P31 value of Q6256 breaks. Also SPARQL searches for countries in Europe don't include Spain.

I'm aware that the subclass Mediterranean country (Q51576574) exists, but if you remove country, that is little help to anyone writing code who then must anticipate every possible subclass and test for them as well. Let's keep it simple, please.

Roberpl (talkcontribs)

{{U|Mike Peel}} already explained it. I won't chane it again.  RoberPL Dígame  23:19, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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Xabi22 (talkcontribs)

Hola Roberpl,

Has eliminado una contribución que efectué en el ítem "Euskararen jatorria". Concretamente, cambié una propiedad de la página llamada nación, de España a Euskal Herria, no entiendo que incorreciones tiene ese cambio, ya que, debo recordarte que las lenguas no tienen una pátria especifica y además, en el caso del euskera, poner a España como su nación originaria me parece vergonzoso para todos los vascos. Es de remarcar que tampoco entiendo porque se pone el estado español como la "nación" del euskera, cuando este idioma es miles de años mas antiguo que el mencionado estado y cabe destacar que se ha hablado y se habla en muchos mas estados, como en el Reino de Navarra, Francia, Reino de Pamplona, Corona de Aragón, etc.

Roberpl (talkcontribs)

En nación se deben indicar estados soberanos y Euskal Herria no lo es. Lo oportuno sería indicarlo en "Ubicación". El hecho de que indique "España" en el país es porque es donde se ubica actualemente, aunque también aplicaría añadir Francia. ~~~~

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El Caro (talkcontribs)

French cannot be the "original language" because Hix exists before French became in use at Hix. In Pyrénées-Orientales (but Fenouillèdes), the "original language" is catalan. Even in late 19th century only "educated" people spoke French, which is the only official language, is become the main language but is not any "original language". Please, could you read some sources about Hix and Pyrénées-Orientales? For example, have a look at French official Geoportail https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/carte , search for Hix and you'll find "Forques Llargues", "Campori", Càldegues, etc just next door, all catalan names (the books read the same). Bourg-Madame is different: there is an official name because it is a commune (and an "original language" name in French, for once, because this name was created from scratch during the 19th s).

In short for Pyrénées-Orientales "original language"=Catalan", "official name"=French (when there is any offical name). We shouldn't revert without any reading any source before.

Roberpl (talkcontribs)

The problem here is in the ambiguous definition of native label (P1705): "label for the items in their official language (P37) or their original language (P364)", Ix is be the original name and Hix the official name. Therefore both apply to this property. Do you agree to add both, Catalan and French?

El Caro (talkcontribs)

I don't think Hix (nor Ix) is an official name. What do you think of "P37=Hix (French)" and "P364=Ix (Catalan)"?

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