Wikidata:Property proposal/Attribution text

attribution text edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Commons

Done: attribution text (P8264) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the attribution string as specified by the licensor, that re-users are obliged to name
Data type	String
Domain	Files
Allowed values	text
Example 1	File:Mycalesis 1 by Kadavoor.jpg → "© 2010 Jee & Rani Nature Photography (License: CC BY-SA 4.0)"
Example 2	File:London Zoo 01118.jpg → "© Nevit Dilmen"
Example 3	File:Summerjam 20150705 Yakoto IMG 0077 by Emha.JPG → "© Emha / Wikimedia Commons / CC-BY-SA-4.0"
Source	License template with optional attribution like Template:Cc-by-sa-4.0
Planned use	Use in combination with copyright license (P275) for files on Commons
See also	copyright license (P275)

Motivation edit

On Commons it's possible to specify a customer attribution string for Creative Commons attribution and attribution-shareAlike licenses (and some other ones). This string can be put in the self template and is passed to the license template like Template:Cc-by-sa-4.0. We need to be able to store this as structured data to be able to add licensing data to structured data on Commons. I picked string instead of monolingual text because often the text is quite language independent. I think "attribution text" sounds slightly better than "attribution string" or "credit line", but I'm fine with either naming (and the others as an alias). See also Commons:Credit line. It can also be used for courtesy attribution. Multichill (talk) 14:35, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Oppose This should be generated out of the other statements like author and license. --GPSLeo (talk) 15:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @GPSLeo: That will happen if the user didn't explicitly define this which is probably 95%+ of the files. This new property is to override that as happened in the examples. Do you want to deny the copyright holder the right under a license to provide a custom attribution? Or maybe name the property "custom attribution text" to make this clearer? Multichill (talk) 16:33, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - These "custom attributions" are just recommendations. Only the attribution required by the license is correct. Especially your second example is against the attribution required by the license, because it dose not include the license as required for CC-BY-SA. This could provide problems in some cases. --GPSLeo (talk) 19:38, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - These "custom attributions" are just recommendations. Only the attribution required by the license is correct.
      This seems unrelated to the proposal at hand. You are right that having a property for attribution text (which is already Commons template parameters) requested by a creator doesn't invalidate the license, and the reuser is still obligated to fulfill its terms. But there is no reason to prevent customized attribution text for those who want to request it. Even CC0 or PD materials can still have credit lines for users willing wanting to give credit (by the same logic that you should still cite a publisher of a public domain book in a bibliography).
    - Especially your second example is against the attribution required by the license, because it dose not include the license as required for CC-BY-SA.
      Attribution and licensing are different concepts. The "Sharealike" requirements for licenses does not mean those licenses have to be part of some kind of "attribution" string. That is a different property, and the licensing requirements should be fulfilled according to the terms of the license, regardless of the value of the attribution text. Dominic (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I believe we currently have some credit-lines with hyperlinks (not only URLs, but linked ones). Not saying that we should support this, but just wanted this to be made explicit :-) Jean-Fred (talk) 17:23, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Christian Ferrer (talk) 03:30, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Dominic (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is something which exists on WMC so it should have its property. The argument presented by GPSLeo is missing the understanding of the function of attributions. People would love the opportunity to search via attribution text. --Juandev (talk) 20:28, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Jarekt (talk) 01:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Multichill, GPSLeo, Jean-Frédéric, Christian Ferrer, Dominic: @Juandev, Jarekt: attribution text (P8264) has been created. Pamputt (talk) 08:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]