Wikidata:Property proposal/NYARC Discovery ID
NYARC Discovery ID edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Description | record for a publication held by the New York Art Resources Consortium (NYARC) in New York City |
|---|---|
| Represents | New York Art Resources Consortium (Q17148329) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | work of art (Q838948) |
| Allowed values | b\d+ |
| Example 1 | Portrait of a Gentleman, with a view of a Garden (Q97383527) -> b1508031 |
| Example 2 | A Little Girl and Her Nurse (Q97386443) -> b1508071 |
| Example 3 | Portrait of Don Manuel de Menens (Q97940919) -> b1564405 |
| Example 4 | The Standard Bearer (Q97941155) -> b1502940 |
| Source | see member websites (Brooklyn Museum, Frick, MoMa) |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Planned use | update museum and other catalogs already on Wikidata with provenance information |
| Number of IDs in source | more than a million |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://arcade.nyarc.org/record=$1 |
| See also | Base Arcade artwork ID (P4764) (I believe this other arcade property should be renamed) |
Motivation edit
We have RKDimages ID (P350) and this would be useful too. Jane023 (talk) 08:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Discussion edit
WikiProject sum of all paintings has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead..
Notified participants of WikiProject France. Jane023 (talk) 12:14, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Question @Jane023 How would you condider the applicable domain of the property? All your examples are reproduction of paintings in the Frick photoarchives. But I can see there are also numerous books/catalogs (those more like RKDlibrary ID (P4989)), as well as "artist files" from different sources, and potentially a number of different other media types. --Nono314 (talk) 17:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well I am only able to judge the accuracy of the paintings, and I poked around but I couldn't figure out how to get the artists out (so a RKDartists type of property isn't possible, but a search on "last, first" does give some nice alternate spellings). The catalog info seems a bit sparse, to be honest, but if you think it should be a more general domain, then that's fine. I didn't check extensively for objects like furniturer, decorative arts, or anthing else. I stumbled on this because I was working on the Barings/Northbrook provenance list. Jane023 (talk) 07:04, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer. I just wanted to ask because the proposal didn't explicitly set the domain. As said below I'm perfectly fine with the paintings (or artworks, as there are also some sculptures).--Nono314 (talk) 16:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well I am only able to judge the accuracy of the paintings, and I poked around but I couldn't figure out how to get the artists out (so a RKDartists type of property isn't possible, but a search on "last, first" does give some nice alternate spellings). The catalog info seems a bit sparse, to be honest, but if you think it should be a more general domain, then that's fine. I didn't check extensively for objects like furniturer, decorative arts, or anthing else. I stumbled on this because I was working on the Barings/Northbrook provenance list. Jane023 (talk) 07:04, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Support especially for painting reproductions. They indeed provide useful research data for paintings outside main museums, even if caveats apply (just randomly picking a handful of them, I spotted outdated entries for decades, mismatched institutions and mangled text) --Nono314 (talk) 17:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- From what I have seen, I believe these are digitized entries of old auction sales that took place in New York City (also possibly paintings formerly on show in member museums). Jane023 (talk) 07:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
