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No update of Property statistics since 10 AugustEdit

Hello there; I just saw that Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Property statistics has not been updated since the 10th of August 2020. Is the bot broken or has it been deprogrammed? Please take care of that to reflect the newest changes (I have created over 100 painting items in that period, and I am certainly not the only one to have been busy!). Thanks, --Edelseider (talk) 13:52, 22 September 2020 (UT

Fixed. Multichill (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing those bots Multichilll, and thanks for those items you created, @Edelseider:! I am appreciating them when I see them. Jane023 (talk) 06:55, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

ListeriaBot is less and less reliable and should be replaced ASAP (resolved)Edit

I have raised this subject in many places, and several times with the creator of ListeriaBot, but to no avail. There are two kinds of problems with LB that are getting worse and worse:

ListeriaBot is still useful for lists that are not too big, or too important. But for the really important lists (like the three I cited above), it sometimes fails miserably! @Multichill:, @Jane023: - could you do something? All the best, --Edelseider (talk) 14:46, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

I just nominated this tool for best tool of the year, because I use it so much. I haven't noticed any problems with it (besides a known update lag due to Wikidata, not the tool itself). Generally I wait a day or two before trying to update one of these lists. By the way, both of the lists you mention have an update frequency set with |freq=30 so they won't update daily unless you click on them. Also, the tool is not part of Wikidata and it is built by a volunteer, so replacing it will be difficult. Can you give specific examples of paintings that are not counted in these lists? Thx. Jane023 (talk) 15:36, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Jane023:. Whenever I try to update the Top Creator lists manually, and unlike several other lists, it just won't work. After a few minutes, a message comes up: "Trying to update", and that's all. The result is this: no change since 11 August 2020, no change since 11 August 2020. Please go on and try to update manually, as I have done countless times! Good luck!
As for the Top Collections list, it should show changes for Musée des Beaux-Arts de Strasbourg (items Q99518195, Q99518190, Q99526022, and Q99667061, created between 21 and 27 September), but it does not. There is a problem. I insist there is. --Edelseider (talk) 15:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi again @Jane023: sorry to disturb you, but will you react? I provided you with all the answers and complementary information s you asked for. Thx, --Edelseider (talk) 06:11, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Large lists tend to not work. I think it's a fairly recent memory problem. Not sure if it happens because memory allocated to the bot was reduced or items just have grown.
Not displaying a country column might help as these large items would be loaded just for labels. Reducing the number of rows generally helps too. --- Jura 06:44, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Jura, that's right. Sorry @Edelseider: this is a perennial problem with Listeria and take some fiddling to fi it. The large lists do time out eventually. As Jura said, you need to reduce the query to fit inside the timeout limit. I am no Sparql expert, but I have learned to solve these generally by reducing the number of records returned or upping the stakes for appearing in the list. I amended it to only return 500 painters with over 100 painting items (was 800 / 40). It took a while, but it updated now. Jane023 (talk) 08:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Jura and Jane023. I did the same fiddling with Top creators by number of collections and it worked: [1]. Of course, the list is now shorter, which is a bad thing for a project supposed to be the sum of... --Edelseider (talk) 08:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Yes we are suffering the effects of our own success, but we can also always find ways to split these big lists into smaller ones. So e.g. we don't use the SoaP project as a label for tracking items, we could create subprojects to track a certain group of 1000 popular painters. We could also split the list by birth period, or work location, etc. If you want help deciding how to set up lists that you might be interested in, I can help or at least try to find help for you. Jane023 (talk) 10:40, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
I suspect the SPARQL is too slow and gives a time out. You could try to improve the SPRQL by using subqueries. --Hannolans (talk) 15:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
@Hannolans: I'm so sorry, but I wouldn't know how to do that because I actually don't even understand what you wrote (I only know the meaning of SPQR) - :). Can't ListeriaBot be replaced with another, more powerful bot? --Edelseider (talk) 15:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Hanno, yes the issue was time outs and it has been resolved. Edelseider, subqueries are just another way to split the query (such as by birth period, etc). Don't worry about Sparql - it's the query piece of the listeria template. The more you look at such queries, the easier you can copy them and tailor them for your needs. It's not rocket science. Jane023 (talk) 21:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=650 Multichill (talk) 11:26, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

formerly attributed toEdit

How do we model unknown authors formerly attributed to someone else? I though in the past I used P1773 (P1773) with some qualifier, but the property was deleted. I am trying to add it to Christ on the Cross Between the Virgin and Saint John (Q100918649) which was formerly attributed to Albrecht Dürer. --Jarekt (talk) 01:19, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

You just add it to creator and then you deprecate the statement. I do this all the time. I generally don't have a reference for the old attribution if it comes from Commons, but if I do have a reference (such as old catalogs or whatever) then I use P972. Jane023 (talk) 11:58, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Commons Template:Artwork and WikidataEdit

Multichill (talk) 11:28, 8 August 2014 (UTC), focus on the Netherlands Husky (talk) 11:38, 8 August 2014 (UTC) - Cool, i'd like to focus on building tools to visualise progress. Spinster (talk) 07:00, 9 August 2014 (UTC) Happy to help with manual finetuning that can't be done by bots, and anything else on the 'soft/wet' side of this project. I'm dreaming of complete artists' oeuvres on Wikidata! Rich Farmbrough (talk) Time to learn2Wikidata Jheald (talk) 12:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC) Kippelboy (talk) 07:01, 21 August 2014 (UTC) (Focus on Catalan paintings (subdivision of Spain) Mushroom (talk) 12:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC) Jane023 (talk) 09:11, 3 October 2014 (UTC) work on Dutch 17th-century paintings and landscapes of Haarlem; Most recently, the sum of all "attributed" paintings by Frans Hals, which is nearly done Missvain (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2014 (UTC) (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC) Zolo (talk) 14:57, 23 November 2014 (UTC) Beat Estermann (talk) 10:33, 3 December 2014 (UTC) (Focus on Swiss heritage institutions) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC) KRLS (talk) 11:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC) (Focus on Catalan area museums) DivadH (talk) 11:35, 1 March 2015 (UTC) ,happy to help out with any questions in regards to the Europeana API, how to best query it, and/or our metadata Xcia0069 (talk) 11:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC), Work on data related to Gianlorenzo Bernini and Artemisia Gentileschi. Work at Europeana too ! Susannaanas (talk) 07:29, 9 March 2015 (UTC) Wittylama (talk) 17:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC) Fabrice Florin (talk) 02:35, 26 June 2015 (UTC) I can help in California later this year. Vaughn88 (talk) 15:58, 15 July 2015 (UTC) I can help! Raymond Ellis (talk) 19:31, 17 August 2015 (UTC) Hsarrazin (talk) 14:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC) - will give a hand with Creators and AC :) louis-garden (talk) 14:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC) for italian paintings (XIIe-XVIIe) Olivier (talk) 21:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC) Kopiersperre (talk) 11:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC) ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 03:49, 23 February 2016 (UTC) Micru (talk) 11:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC) Stuart Prior (WMUK) (talk) 11:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC) Hannolans (talk) 23:14, 22 October 2016 (UTC) Geraki (talk) 09:52, 24 October 2016 (UTC) (Focus on Greece) PatHadley (talk) 12:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC) MartinPoulter (talk) 14:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC) Working to get data from the University of Oxford (Q34433) and its component institutions shared on Wikidata. Pablísima (talk) 18:07, 8 February 2017 (UTC) Carl Ha (talk) 22:10, 9 February 2017 (UTC) Marsupium (talk) 19:44, 22 May 2017 (UTC) Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 16:15, 26 June 2017 (UTC) Shani Evenstein (talk) 10:26, 26 July 2017 (UTC) Nasty nas (talk) 07:45, 24 August 2017 (UTC) Bodhisattwa (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2017 (UTC) Joalpe (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2017 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2017 (UTC) Sarasays (talk) 20:00, 1 December 2017 (UTC) Thierry Caro (talk) 07:30, 9 December 2017 (UTC) John Samuel 18:29, 21 December 2017 (UTC) Jklamo (talk) 12:06, 31 December 2017 (UTC) Reosarevok (talk) 10:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC), focus on Estonia Ambrosia10 (talk) 19:48, 19 February 2018 (UTC) Subsublibrary (talk) 03:17, 22 February 2018 (UTC) Martingggg (talk) 07:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC), focus on Argentine and Hispanic America Kruusamägi (talk) 16:42, 13 March 2018 (UTC), focus on Estonia SIryn (talk) 10:36, 9 June 2018 (UTC) Jarekt (talk) 13:49, 7 September 2018 (UTC), focus on moving metadata from Commons to Wikidata Walkuraxx (talk) 10:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC) Omotecho (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2019 (UTC), focus on Japan GualdimG (talk) 16:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC) Léna (talk) 08:57, 4 April 2019 (UTC) Yann (talk) 09:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC) Paul Cézanne (Q35548) for a start... Abbe98 (talk) 19:25, 18 June 2019 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2019 (UTC) Have been doing small things here and there — especially improving items around what is depicted on paintings — so might as well sign up. Jbandrews (talk) 02:14, 16 October 2019 (UTC) Product Manager at the Art Institute of Chicago. Amadalvarez (talk) 06:19, 19 October 2019 (UTC) Meresquared (talk) 14:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC) I'm interested in adding depiction descriptions to paintings, and improving data around women and POC. Clifford Anderson (talk) 01:47, 25 November 2019 (UTC) --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 21:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC) focus on danish paintings. TemboUngwe (talk) 15:27, 13 July 2020 (UTC) Joan E Beaudoin (talk) 16:36, 31 July 2020 (UTC) Frolicking in metadata about art = heaven on Earth! Currently working on the Uffizi artworks ID file in the Mix'n'Match tool. Subodh (talk) 10:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC) Marajozkee (talk) 12:16, 11 October 2020 (UTC) Bhuvana Meenakshi (talk) 11:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC) Ham II (talk) 06:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC) Unapeça (talk) 10:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC) Focus on catalan paintings Edelseider (talk) 12:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC) Wuselig (talk) 10:39, 19 January 2021 (UTC) active in German GLAM-activities  Notified participants of WikiProject sum of all paintings
Discussion is currently underway on Commons (in this thread at Commons VP:Policy) on topics including to what extent the Commons c:Template:Artwork should be allowed to draw metadata entirely from Wikidata, or whether some must remain as wikitext on Commons (and if so, what? and how?). As this presumably may touch on many people's workflows, and many people in this project may have views or ideas about this, people may wish to have their say. Jheald (talk) 16:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Cleaning up the ontology of anonymousEdit

See Wikidata:Requests for comment/Cleaning up the ontology of anonymous. Let's finally sort this out. Multichill (talk) 20:50, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Refining provenance eventsEdit

I'm looking into how to improve provenance for paintings. It's currently documented as some useful properties. Looking at significant event (P793), the usage can maybe be improved, see The https://w.wiki/nWX . Most events involve two parties: The old owner/holder and the new owner/holder for which we have the generic item change of ownership (Q14903979). But quite a few other items are viewed from only one of the two parties:

And some more.

How to better model this? I think we can just keep change of ownership (Q14903979) and gift (Q707482). Maybe create a new item "acquisition through sale", "acquisition through bequest" and maybe "acquisition through sale at auction"? Thoughts? Multichill (talk) 17:16, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

OMG yes. I always forget how to do this but because normally I am working from owner catalogs I end up just adding owners and always forget to make the distinction for bequests or gifts. In fact I still can't remember how to do this. We should probably set up a subpage for WD:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Credit line where we makke an overview of the common ones. Jane023 (talk) 09:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

"error decoding response body: expected value at line 1 column 1"Edit

The Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top collections by number of Wikipedia painting articles cannot be updated because of ERROR: "error decoding response body: expected value at line 1 column 1". Could somebody please fix that? Thank you very much! --Edelseider (talk) 11:11, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Looks like we hit the timeout limit on this one. I took out the "list per museum" part and it updated just now. Onwards and upwards to the next time this list times out! Jane023 (talk) 10:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
@Jane023: thank you! But why does the same thing not work here? I tried everything! --Edelseider (talk) 12:46, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh you just forgot to take out the code for ?name too - since it's not used, the list won't update. Fixed now. Jane023 (talk) 13:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
¡Muchas gracias! --Edelseider (talk) 13:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Same problem with Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top creators by number of identifiers. CONCAT use is the problem?--Jklamo (talk) 09:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
When debugging, can you please copy the list to your sandbox and experiment there? Multichill (talk) 19:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Tracking for which painters we have all paintingsEdit

For a while I've had this question: For which painters do we have all paintings on Wikidata? Fortunately art historians like to make a catalogue raisonné (Q1050259) for painters. That's the best overviews we have for all works. Of course new works might surface later as new discoveries. So let's define having completed all paintings for a painter as: A trustworthy catalogue raisonné exists for the painter and Wikidata has an item for every entry in this catalog. For Vincent van Gogh I completed the list of paintings some time ago and more recently the list for Salvador Dalí and the list for the list for Piet Mondrian. As you can see it means we have an item for every painting, but that doesn't mean that the items itself are complete. This is just about if we have the item or not. Completeness of statements for a set of painting items for quality improvement is also an interesting topic.

To track the completed painters, I created Category:WikiProject sum of all paintings completed creators with catalog. For other painters for which I know a catalogue raisonné exists, I created Category:WikiProject sum of all paintings incomplete creators with catalog. I went through Category:WikiProject sum of all paintings catalogs and part of https://w.wiki/ogQ to add candidates. Several users (like Jane) already did a tremendous amount of work in this area. For each painter in that category either:

  1. Work has already been done: Verify that the list is complete. Update the list to clearly state against what catalog it has been checked and move the list to Category:WikiProject sum of all paintings completed creators with catalog
  2. Not complete yet: Work your way through the catalog

Who wants to help? What do you think of this approach? Multichill (talk) 17:49, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes interesting to use categories for this. In the case of Rembrandt and other much older painters, the completeness changes over time as works are added and dropped from any "definitive" list. So for Rembrandt, the list of self-portraits is complete (I think) and the other list produced at the end of the Rembrandt Research Project, but the RKD has taken their database and continues the work. In this case I think the artist should be in both categories, since completed and incompleted catalogs exist and both are "needed" or "in current use" as authority files for the artist. For this reason, maybe we should also have some way of sorting the completed and incomplete catalogs by percentage complete, but it would be nice if this was calculated on the fly based on some data like #codes matched to items and total #codes in the catalog. Jane023 (talk) 09:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Help needed adding missing inception and/or creator to upload imagesEdit

A lot of paintings have images queued up Commons compatible image available at URL (P4765) to be uploaded to Commons, but some data is missing so the bot can't confirm the image is in the public domain. When the missing inception (P571) and/or date of death (P570) is added, the bot will upload the image (assuming it's actually in the public domain). The work lists:

Help appreciated. It's quite satisfying to see the images you updated get uploaded a couple days later. Multichill (talk) 14:21, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Thx. I will check those lists. I've almost finished the upload ot the paintings from museums of the city of Paris (Q3330843) (6810). Pyb (talk) 20:07, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top creators by number of paintingsEdit

Help! I just don't manage to get it right. Where have all the names gone now? I had to make all these changes because of "error decoding response body: expected value at line 1 column 1" (see above), but after it has updated at last, the painters have become anonymous! It drives me crazy! --Edelseider (talk) 19:14, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Weird. I fixed it, because the problem was that the creator field you wanted a label for was not based on "namelink" but on "?item". I ãlso took away the table html lines since it's a table anyway. Jane023 (talk) 10:07, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
@Jane023: Thank you! I had tried my best, but it was not enough. It's good to be able to count on you! By the way: where do all the Q3348980 paintings come from? --Edelseider (talk) 10:31, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Ha! They are the result of a major push to get Indian paintings onto Wikidata, thanks to the Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Location/India!!! Most of the older paintings are unsigned, but it was nice to have the metadata whole oeuvre of one named painter uploaded. Jane023 (talk) 10:48, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
@Jane023: Shouldn't "we" launch that kind of edit-a-thon for Pablo Picasso now? I mean, he left about 5,000 paintings but there are only a little over 700 on WD. Nothing against Kalervo Palsa but old Pablo definitely was even more productive. --Edelseider (talk) 11:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
OMG yes! Same for all of the painters on this list! The real stumbling block moving us forward on these are 1) lack of volunteers comfortable editing Wikidata and 2) lack of available art catalogues. Especially for Picasso, the catalogs tend to be very expensive and few public libraries carry them. Fortunately there are many popular ones available on archive.org so it could be a good student project to have people contribute Wikipedia articles (that could then be cross-referenced to various catalogs). See this quick search. Jane023 (talk) 11:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
I think some painters on that list are well covered, Van Dyck and Rembrandt, for instance. I don't think that there are many more paintings in the world by these two. As for Van Gogh, I believe 877 covers it all! (if we start including drawings and prints, that becomes another matter). :) --Edelseider (talk) 12:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

500.000 paintingsEdit

 
A lot of paintings to look at!

We hit just hit the milestone of 500.000 paintings on Wikidata. See Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Property statistics for details (updates every Monday morning). Multichill (talk) 22:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

HELP! Merging gone wrong.Edit

@Multichill: @Jarekt: @Jane023:
Sorry everybody, I thought it was a good idea (I still think it is) to merge Q3044768 (Département des peintures du Louvre, whom nobody gives a f*** about outside of Paris) with Q19675 (Louvre Museum). For some reason, it did not worked as planned at all, and I cannot explain why! I tried to undo the merger but with no results. Again, sorry!! --Edelseider (talk) 08:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Copy from User_talk:Jane023
First a technical explanation: it is impossible to merge two items on Wikidata when there is two different page on a Wikimedia project. So here, if you want to merge, Department of Paintings of the Louvre (Q3044768) and Louvre Museum (Q19675), first you need to merge fr:Département des peintures du musée du Louvre and fr:Musée du Louvre.
Next the editorial point of view: merging these items (and articles) seems to be a very bad idea. It would be like merging "France" with "Europe". Plus, pages like Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top collections by number of Wikipedia articles could easily be fixed to take into account all departments of a museum.
Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 13:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Do not merge Department of Paintings of the Louvre (Q3044768) with Louvre Museum (Q19675). One is a subsidiary department of the other. Note they have distinct external identifiers (A vs B). Whether you or I give a "f***" about the department is irrelevant, clearly they are distinct entities and multiple libraries and catalogs recognize the distinction. -Animalparty (talk) 17:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Participant listEdit

@Multichill: linking it means that people can't see how large it. I also see no reason why a larger list of participants shouldn't be included. Why do you think it shouldn't be there? ChristianKl❫ 13:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm trimming down the page because it has too much noise and clutter on it. I added the number of participants so people can see that. Multichill (talk) 16:12, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Drawings by Leonardo da VinciEdit

Hi all. Over at enwiki Aza24 and I would like to create a list of drawings by Leonardo da Vinci, based on Frank Zöllner's 2003 catalogue raisonné which has been replicated here. I'd like to generate a Listeria list from Wikidata, and ideally re-arrange the works into chronological order, as Zöllner's numbers are based on thematic groupings. I'd then reformat the resulting table to make it acceptable for enwiki. Does anyone have a sense of what would need to be done in order to generate Wikidata items for every work in the Commons gallery I've linked to above (paintings as well as drawings)? There's also a version in the form of a table here. Adding titles, accession numbers, etc., would not be a problem as both Aza and I have print copies of the catalogue. I realise that this is strictly speaking outside this project's scope, but the technical issues must be the same for any catalogue of artworks. Ham II (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ham II: sounds like a nice project! Did you already create an item for the catalogue raisonnée? If not, please create one and link it to the gallery on Commons. That would be a good starting point.
Next step would be to add the catalog code (P528) qualified with the item to the paintings.
When the paintings are done, you can add the catalog code to the already existing drawings.
With all the existing works linked up, you can go to import the missing drawings. But let's get to this point first. Shouldn't be too much work. Multichill (talk) 17:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@Multichill: Thank you! I've now finished all these steps; what's next? Ham II (talk) 06:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ham II: great! Now that you matched up the existing drawings you can add the new ones using Quickstatements. This is some example input that you can paste in to get an idea:
qid,P18,P528,qal972,P31,P170,Den,Dnl
,"""Leonardo da Vinci - Studien zu einer Anbetung der Hirten, um 1480, 21488.jpg""","1",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
,"""Leonardo da Vinci - Etude pour une Adoration des bergers, NI1776;AI658.jpg""","2",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
,"""Leonardo da Vinci - Sleeve study for the Annunciation, 1470-73.jpg""","3",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
,"""Leonardo da Vinci - 1860,0616.100, Verso Three studies of the Virgin and Child, seated.jpg""","4",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
,"""Leonaredo, studio per l'adorazione dei magi, uffizi.jpg""","5",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
,"""Leonardo da Vinci - Adoration des Mages, RF 1978, Recto.jpg""","6",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
,"""Leonardo da Vinci - Etude pour la Nativité de Jésus, 19-506106.jpg""","7",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
,"""Leonardo da Vinci - Etude pour la Nativité de Jésus, 19-506105.jpg""","8",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
Q52707816,"""Leonardo study Madonna of the rocks.jpeg""","15",Q105337930,Q93184,Q762,"drawing by Leonardo da Vinci","tekening van Leonardo da Vinci"
This is incomplete, please expand with fields like descriptions in other languages and the label in one or more languages. You can use the gallery as starting point and a spreadsheet to format it like this. Multichill (talk) 17:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
@Multichill: I've started a spreadsheet here, for pasting into QuickStatements. Am I doing this right so far? I've included QIDs for existing items, but I can remove those if they shouldn't be there. I'm planning to improve the formatting of the dates (i.e. adding sourcing circumstances (P1480) = circa (Q5727902)) at the end; first I want to copy them as they appear in the book. I've tried using the Wikipedia and Wikidata Tools add-on to Google Sheets in order to find the item numbers for collections, but that doesn't seem to have worked. My idea there is to delete the column with the collections' names at the end after the Wikidata items for all of them have been found. Ham II (talk) 15:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Proposal for incomplete creator and collection listsEdit

Readers don't know if a collection is complete, so I suggest to put a note (maybe with a template) in the manner "(this list is complete)" or "(this list is incomplete)". --Mateus2019 (talk) 14:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

described at URL (P973) on paintingsEdit

As ping project doesn't work for this project (too many participants), here is a note:

Please see Wikidata:Project_chat#Interpreting_"described_at_URL"_(P973). --- Jura 10:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

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