Wikidata:Property proposal/Norgeshistorie ID

Norgeshistorie.no ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Norgeshistorie ID (P10196) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Identifier for an item on Norgeshistorie.no
Represents	Norgeshistorie.no (Q27135852)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	history (Q309)
Allowed values	([\w\-]+/)?[\w\-]+
Example 1	Operation Weserübung (Q150939) → andre-verdenskrig/1712-overfallet
Example 2	Arbeidernes Idrettsforbund (Q4581477) → forste-verdenskrig-og-mellomkrigstiden/K1643-arbeidernes-idrettsforbund
Example 3	Convention of Moss (Q33773) → grunnlov-og-ny-union/1333-mossekonvensjonen
Example 4	Svanviken work and housing institution (Q28123464) → forste-verdenskrig-og-mellomkrigstiden/1629-svanviken-arbeidskoloni
Source	https://www.norgeshistorie.no/
Planned use	To be used in Template:Authority control
Number of IDs in source	600 articles and 300 sources
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	https://www.norgeshistorie.no/$1.html
Robot and gadget jobs	Mix n' Match
Applicable "stated in"-value	Norgeshistorie.no (Q27135852)
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Norway (Q11034018)

Motivering/begrunnelse

ID for items on the history of Norway Pmt (talk) 18:49, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

• @Pmt: I don't understand your examples, what specific string do you propose for the ID? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:56, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
  • {{ping|ArthurPSmith]] Strings for the examples added Pmt (talk) 17:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

  @Pmt, ArthurPSmith: effective notification —Eihel (talk) 19:42, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

  @Pmt: I'm still confused. The value for this property for Convention of Moss (Q33773) is "Mossekonvensjonen"? Or "1333-mossekonvensjonen"? Neither of those match the URL you provide where (going by the formatter URL) the ID seems like it would have to be "grunnlov-og-ny-union/1333-mossekonvensjonen.html" (but presumably not all that is necessary in the ID?) Please look at how other external id property proposals have handled their examples! ArthurPSmith (talk) 00:24, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

  @ArthurPSmith: Values orrected.

• Ok, but they don't agree with the formatter URL. https://www.norgeshistorie.no/1712-overfallet gives a 404, and I also tried https://www.norgeshistorie.no/_/1712-overfallet.html but that also gives a 404. Can you fix the formatter URL so these will actually work? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:38, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

  @ArthurPSmith: I shall try, butI shall admit that formatters is not my force... Pmt (talk) 21:49, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it's possible to make the identifiers any shorter. While investigating it looks like the software might use alphanumeric identifiers for both category pages and article pages, but I couldn't find any API or other method to access the articles by number. One could search for the numeric ID, but that will give ambiguous results. --Infrastruktur (T | C) 23:01, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

•  Support Looks like this identifier will be quite useful. --Infrastruktur (T | C) 09:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
•  Comment I tried to fix the samples to make the format closer to those of other proposal [1]. --- Jura 16:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

@Pmt, ArthurPSmith, Eihel, Infrastruktur, Jura1:  Done Norgeshistorie ID (P10196) Pamputt (talk) 08:33, 27 December 2021 (UTC)