Wikidata:Property proposal/Online Begraafplaatsen person ID
Online Begraafplaatsen person ID edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person
| Description | grafe markings and war memorials listed on Online-Begraafplaatsen.nl |
|---|---|
| Represents | human (Q5) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | item |
| Allowed values | [1-9]\d* |
| Example 1 | Henderikadius Zwantinus Kloekers (Q17189385) → 1354466 |
| Example 2 | Ad de Beer (Q2762485) → 304367 |
| Example 3 | Ajaan Hijmans (Q23929906) → 1328466 |
| Example 4 | Jan Albert Kwast (Q4218595) → 825022 |
| Example 6 | 100+ links found on nlwiki |
| Number of IDs in source | lots |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.online-begraafplaatsen.nl/zerken.asp?p=$1 |
| See also | Find a Grave memorial ID (P535) |
Motivation edit
Dutch equivalent of FindAGrave.com. A single-value-restraint might not be fitting since in the Netherlands it's very common to have multiple people share a grave site. The website does have a person ID: 2248305 is the ID for Jan de Haas (Q84432258) for the memorial 1438395. This isn't an ID that is retrievable from that memorial's HTML: one has to first look him up with the site's search capacity. His ID is 1347395 on the memorial 949281. As you can tell: the website doesn't actually respond by marking that person in the overview if you provide their specific ID. It's still an overview of the monument and no way to tell if you've actually got the right ID for the right person. Though uniqueness is a big plus, it's a distinction that is not possible to even check. 1Veertje (talk) 19:10, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Discussion edit
Comment It would be great if we could use the person ID. I sent a request to see if they could make the ID accessible/visible. --1-Byte (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)- Comment Better to make it a string value instead of external id, if it's not a unique identifier for a person. Otherwise individual records with the same id value might be mistakenly merged. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:12, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment As you can see in my overview I've managed to get people's Person ID based on the Monument ID and their dod/dob/family name.
Do I need to write yet another property proposal to get both a Online Begraafplaatsen memorial ID and a Online Begraafplaatsen person ID?--1Veertje (talk) 19:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC) - Comment I've created a separate property proposal at Wikidata:Property proposal/Online Begraafplaatsen memorial ID. Would it be relevant to include the monument ID as a qualifier in the person ID? --1Veertje (talk) 16:36, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Support Thanks for sorting through this. Yes, I think monument id as a qualifier would be great. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:35, 18 August 2021 (UTC)- Comment please also vote for Wikidata:Property proposal/Online Begraafplaatsen memorial ID 1Veertje (talk) 19:17, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- @1Veertje, 1-Byte, ArthurPSmith:
Done as Online Begraafplaatsen person ID (P9890). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 01:29, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
