Wikidata:Property proposal/designated as terrorist by
designated as terrorist by edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization
| Description | Many countries have an official list of organizations that they designate as terrorist. Example: http://mha.nic.in/BO This property describes that the organization described by the item has been designated as terrorist by countries A, B, C, and the ONU, for instance. |
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| Data type | Item |
| Template parameter | No infobox, but the data is currently maintained in huge tables at en:List of designated terrorist groups |
| Domain | organization (Q43229) |
| Allowed values | List of country (Q6256) and organization (Q43229) |
| Example | Jundallah (Q1048651) → United States of America (Q30) |
| Source | External reference published officially by said country, for instance https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-eng.aspx On the English article we are extremely strict about having a source for any such statement. No official reference means immediate removal. Non-official references and non-official designations are not accepted. For instance, if Trump says in a speech that SaveThePonies is terrorist it does not count because it is not on the official list. |
- Motivation
Allow collaboration between languages. Some wikipedias use the same tables system as the English wikipedia, other wikipedias prefer different styles to present the same data. Unfortunately, the data is currently different on all wikipedias, it is very hard to keep them all up-to-date.
Please note that such a designation can have a beginning and an end date. Syced (talk) 14:15, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- Discussion
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:59, 16 November 2016 (UTC)- Support although this seems like it could be controversial it represents a factual property and I think it's a good idea to have. I would hope all statements using this property are well sourced... ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:06, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- Indeed, that's why we will have to keep checking references for this one. Hopefully I can write a few scripts to do this automatically, on the plus side these scripts will be easier to write/maintain than with Wikipedia articles. Syced (talk) 02:07, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- Support. It is important to allow organisations and political factions as competing governing entities in the same geographical area may designate the same organisation differently. Similarly sub-national governments should be allowed values as an autonomous region may designate a group active in that region as a terrorist while the national government has no official view on the matter. Thryduulf (talk) 20:51, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- I know no example of sub-national governments maintaining their own list, but in theory that could happen indeed. Syced (talk) 02:07, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- If I look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups I see two issues. The EU has two lists. There an Indian list mentioned that isn't specifically about terrorism but simply about banned institutions.
- Why should this property refer to the organisation that does the banning and not the list/legislation under which the organisation is banned? Why use the term terrorism instead of talking about banned groups? ChristianKl (talk) 10:39, 23 November 2016 (UTC)