Wikidata:Property proposal/membership number

membership number

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Done: membership number (P11327) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number given to an entity to identify them within an organization
Data type	String
Example 1	TSV Allershausen (Q26940800) member of (P463) Bavarian Football Association (Q812335) Qualificator: Membership number → "31001004"
Example 2	Herbert Grönemeyer (Q275247) member of (P463) VfL Bochum (Q105861) Qualificator: Membership number → "4630"
Example 3	Bodo Pfalzgraf (Q108403891) member of (P463) Q1623040 Qualificator: Membership number → "11"
Example 4	FT Ingolstadt-Ringsee (Q87035987) member of (P463) Bayerischer Tennis-Verband (Q812382) Qualificator: Membership number → "06320"
Planned use	Change all series ordinal (P1545) at memberships to the new Property, and use it for new sportsclub memberships

Motivation

In Memberships of persons and organizations is used often series ordinal (P1545) in the moment as membership number. This isn't correct, because series ordinal (P1545) is an ordinal, and membership numbers mustn't be ordinals. They also can contain letters or spaces and so on. And I don't see another property for this purpose. Balû (talk) 16:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support Yes this seems to be something missing. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:28, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems reasonable Pmt (talk) 15:27, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment At face value it looks like a good idea, however this might be the wrong way to go about it. If Wikidata should list member numbers, the organization should be notable and the member number relevant, and if the organization is notable it perhaps ought have it's own identifier. Otherwise member numbers is something that should not be listed. A generic property for member numbers would only make sense if this info was considered to be notable most of the time, which is probably not the case. Infrastruktur (talk) 18:36, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- In Wikidata all organizations are notable. But also if it wouldn't be, there are for example a vast number of notable (within the scope of Wikipedia) sport organizations, which all have official member numbers of their members at least here in Germany. I don't think it's reasonable, to create own properties for each of them. --Balû (talk) 14:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Besides: I plan to import a big amount of German sports club data from my private database to wikidata and the membership number in a sports organization is the only distinct identifier to avoid duplicates. --Balû (talk) 14:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Balû, ArthurPSmith, Pmt: Done --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 09:16, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]