Wikidata:Property proposal/official product site

official product site edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Not done

Description	URL of a product on the producers website
Represents	product (Q2424752)
Data type	Item
Domain	item
Allowed values	hyper text documents
Example 1	Warum Europa eine Republik werden muss (Q95102760) → piper.de/buecher/warum-europa-eine-republik-werden-muss-isbn-978-3-492-31192-2
Example 2	Oatly Oat Drink Barista Edition (Q95582745) → oatly.com/int/products/oat-drink-barista-edition
Example 3	Ayanami Blue (Q91417704) → turner.co.jp/ayanamiblue

Motivation edit

Products or create works often have a dedicated page on the website of their brand or publisher. Currently in wikidata they are often wrongly connected using the official website (P856). I think its wrong because the term Official Website in my mind implies a domain level website, not a single hyper text document.

Some products like Diet Coke (Q1815345) have dedicated websites dietcoke.com. those should remain as they are. --Shisma (talk) 18:38, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Oppose official website (P856) have alias "office page".--GZWDer (talk) 23:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mmm, I think the problem is that official website (P856) actually stores URIs for web resources (so the 'official website' is just a cute name for a complexer concept), and the difference with URL (P2699) is just the officialness. An URI has a hierarchy, so https://dietcoke.com/ points to the root resource of 'dietcoke.com' ('/'), and all resources under that directory, not just the domain. Also, a website could be stored in any URI level, not just at domain-level. E.g. the Eric S. Raymond (Q188954) website is identified by the URI http://www.catb.org/~esr/. The domain www.catb.org alone doesn't identify his website, and under that domain many other websites could be stored. So, I Oppose. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 02:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
An official website is definitely not necessarily domain-level, at least that's my view. ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
On Wikidata properties have names in many different languages and those names often don't have exactly the same connotations. A property gets it's meaning from it's property discussion and later discussions that refine it's meaning.

In a case like this the important question is "Do we gain something by having two separate properties to store an official url?". If the answer is "no" we don't create a new property. We might want to refine names or the description of the existing property but we don't need a new property. In this case I think the answer is "no", so

Oppose. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

odd to call it "official product site", because the "official site" wouldn't be meant for an official product page. --- Jura 16:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Marked as "not done" - no support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:11, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]