Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/GZWDer (flood) 6
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Not done @GZWDer: This request seems to be abandoned, please reopen it if that is not the case. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:44, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
GZWDer (flood) (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Operator: GZWDer (talk • contribs • logs)
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Task/s: There are two "parts" in this bot requests:
This task explicitly does not involve:
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Semi-automatic edits using various tools, with following condition:
- Relevant Wikiproject will be notified for any tasks with more than 1000 edits; exceptions:
- Fixing existing bot error (by this, future or prior tasks), and bot errors by others (with a notice to the user causing it, if the error is likely to reoccur)
- Any requests posted by others in Wikidata:Bot requests (but I will wait some days using common sense to allow others commenting on)
- A discussion with clear intent of bot work will be started in relevant Wikiproject talk page or Project chat seven days before proposed edits if 1. more than 100000 edits are involved; 2. more than 10000 items will be created; or 3. this task involving creating new lexemes, forms or senses. A new bot approval may be required if recommended by other users in discussion. Exceptions:
- Fixing existing bot error (by this, future or prior tasks)
- Fixing bot errors by others, with agreement of that user
- If there are consensus to do the task elsewhere
In all cases the bot may do no more than 100 edits as demo.
Code: varies among tasks
Function details:
Created as a request from User_talk:GZWDer. For a long time, this account acts as a dedicated aemi-automatic editing account to make edits of main account more
Any issues about previous edits should be reported to User:GZWDer/issues, not here. When raising a concern, be prepared to response to replies to your responses.--GZWDer (talk) 20:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Multichill, So9q, Jura1: Please notice other participants of Telegram chat.--GZWDer (talk) 20:04, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Thanks for taking the time to write this and prepare the cleanup. I wish you good luck.--So9q (talk) 20:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I see now that you requested rights to modify other objects unrelated to the cleanup. I suggest you remove that and save that for later until the cleanup is done and the communitys trust in you has been restored. Also it might be a good idea to change the request title to clearly state "cleanup". I hope that a succesful cleanup will go a long way to clear you reputation. I suggest you ask previous critics on their talk page to comment on this proposal. An sincere apology about actions that got you blocked earlier would probably also help rebuild trust. ;-)--So9q (talk) 20:40, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I do need to collect (from other users) what needs to clean up at User:GZWDer/issues before any specific action. I do avoid any edits that is potentially controversial.--GZWDer (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I asked the operator to not do any edits with an unauthorized bot and I shared something about trust "A bot flag is a statement of trust: Trust to do correct edits, trust to not abuse it, trust to fix issues, trust that you will clean up the mess that might be caused by a robot, etc. It looks like multiple people lost that trust in you to the point that the authorization was revoked. It's going to be hard to regain that trust. Running an unauthorized bot (or running a bot under your main account) will only make matters worse."
- After that message the operator decided to edit anyway so I changed the block to a complete one (already had a partial block for months). I lost trust in this operator. I'm not sure this operator should operate any bots. Multichill (talk) 11:52, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- +1 on Multichill. Also I didn't like the "please write your complaints in my dedicated subpage" approach. I might not be assuming good faith, and I'd be very happy to be disproved, but it sounded to me very much like GZWDer didn't want to understand what was the problem with their edits. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 13:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Multichill, Sannita:
Let's go ahead to draft a plan to fix the issue. I does identified some issues at that subpage, but I am not sure others may found more. Until then I will refrain running any bots or scripts (approved or not, under any accounts) not related to fixing issues, but (unless I provide a list for others to work on, or running scripts on main account) it does need a dedicated usable bot account (whether having bot flag or not).--GZWDer (talk) 13:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC) struck 16:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]- Note I have collected all issues in threads in 2020 to the issue page but I am not sure if I missed any.--GZWDer (talk) 13:32, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Multichill, Sannita:
- +1 on Multichill. Also I didn't like the "please write your complaints in my dedicated subpage" approach. I might not be assuming good faith, and I'd be very happy to be disproved, but it sounded to me very much like GZWDer didn't want to understand what was the problem with their edits. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 13:00, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I do need to collect (from other users) what needs to clean up at User:GZWDer/issues before any specific action. I do avoid any edits that is potentially controversial.--GZWDer (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note I have revised the bot task description. Previously others recommends me to only do the cleanup but I believe I have done all what I can do without a discussion (though some stuffs need discussion about how to fix them).--GZWDer (talk) 16:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for revising the description. I Oppose any bot work from you until everything from before is cleaned up (if you want to use a bot for cleanup, please make a clear request for that).
- I would like a clear bot request for every single source you wish to import from after the cleanup is done. Broad blanket requests are not for the best of Wikidata IMO. When you are in good standing making and getting a bot request approved should not take long. If it does, it's because it needs discussion and that's a good thing. I want high quality data in WD and low quality imports are not my preferred way to get to that goal.So9q (talk) 09:37, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @So9q: "until everything from before is cleaned up" - I already closed many of issues in User:GZWDer/issues (which I can fix unilaterally). Some issues needs discussion. For the second point, see the ongoing discussion at Wikidata:Project_chat#QuickStatement_Approval? (my opinion is described in task description).--GZWDer (talk) 12:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]