Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Removal/John F. Lewis
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Not done, there is no consensus that we should remove the flag locally.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
John F. Lewis edit
John F. Lewis (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools) John F. Lewis's account is locked by an office action. Although the reason is probably confidential, I think this user is no longer trusted. In addition, his action in a non-WMF wiki (orain.org, currently offline) is also unacceptable.--GZWDer (talk) 06:21, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Oppose, pending more information. Actions on a non-WMF wiki are not grounds for rights removal. Regarding the global lock, I think we need more information on this. If it's confidential, an explicit statement saying that is necessary. Pinging @Jalexander-WMF:, who locked the account. --Yair rand (talk) 06:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- In general I will not publicly comment on exact reasons for a lock other then that it was done for the safety of the projects at the time. He is not currently "Globally Banned" (why it came from my staff account rather then User:WMFOffice) and the current status of his lock is still "temporary". While actions sometimes need to be taken in the heat of the moment once the immediate threat is decreased (he can not log in and therefore can not use his rights), then time can be taken to ensure the right thing is done. When the final decision is made for his account I will do the needed on our side including and rights removals and, if he remains locked, changing the lock summary to be a bit more specific. Jalexander-WMF (talk) 07:05, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose per Jalexander-WMF's comment: As long as we as a community do not know what happened AND John cannot login in, there's no reason for us to take any action against him. If the WMF discloses more information incriminating John BUT removes the lock AND does not remove his rights itself, THEN we can/should do. As for the Orain issue mentioned by GZWDer: What I read at Wikipediocracy upon this request here sounded very concerning at first. However, but I have no reason to believe that the latest update in this thread, claiming that John F. Lewis proved innocent, is incorrect (the same claim is also made on the "Orain.org" entry in Encyclopedia Dramatica [cannot be linked due to the spam filter], in an article that appears not to be satirical, as most other parts of that project are). --YMS (talk) 08:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Why wasn't the community informed about the locking? Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 08:40, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Support No need to have a globally locked user with the sysop flag here. Ajraddatz (talk) 09:28, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Comment supposedly it doesn't actually matter as the account is locked. Doesn't seem to be an active user anyways .. 200 edits in 2015.
--- Jura 09:31, 18 January 2016 (UTC)- Oppose This is premature. --Izno (talk) 15:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Neutral On one hand, I agree with YMS. But on the other hand, it does not matter much anyway as John is going to be desysopped for inactivity soon. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 03:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)- I would rather let this be taken care of by inactivity, rather than having to make a judgment based on private information. --Rschen7754 18:23, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
- This is an issue the WMF has to and will take care of. This removal request leads to nowhere, the account is locked and if it's decided to be permanent, the rights are going to be removed, anyway. --Vogone (talk) 18:30, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
