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Manors list

Y Item created for every manor on the National Archives' list, that is distinct from any item for any settlement or building. (Wales still to do).

TODO: Key information

• Current wikidata identification (P131) of the "parish" column from the spreadsheet is just a first guess, which needs to be firmed up. Where the current value is a present-day civil parish, that is probably okay, but it would be a useful check whether it was also an ancient parish; and also whether there are any similarly-named parishes that we should be cautious about and double-check (should be indicated by P1889 "different from", but might not be). Where the current value is /not/ a present day CP, nor in an unparished area, then we definitely should check whether it was an ancient parish, or alternatively see if we can find something else that was. Beyond that there are still about 10-15% of "parishes" with no first-guess match.
• We should also think how to represent the parish column, if the "parish" is not a present-day CP, so P131 may not be appropriate -- how to code for the relationship?
• Current wikidata identifiation (P279) of the "location" of the manor -- very much first guesswork so far, just based on the name. But identification of the location of "manor farms" and "manor houses" may help here -- currently in progress. <farm> "named after" <manorial estate> may be good lightweight first way to put in the relationship, until we can know more for sure.

TODO: Refinement and additional information

• Alternate names: probably would be useful to have. This may simply be a question of scraping them from the 'more details' tab of pages like https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F285001 TNA pages (I think) may also sometimes contain additional places, though I didn't find an example clicking through a few just now. But these could also be gathered at the same time. And it would also find the cases like https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F243943 that Jo mentioned where there is additional information. As for the list of documents, it doesn't look to me (at first glance) as though there will be much there that will useful to us (at least not in the catalogue stubs online).
• I asked Jo about the cases where we seem to have two hits for a manor of the same name in adjacent parishes -- are these likely to be the same manor (in which case, how do we handle that), or different ones. Also about cases where there seem to be multiple manors of the same name in the same parish, without disambiguators. But I haven't had a reply (nor comment on what we've put up so far). But I'll ask again, once we're a step further to report, with parishes, and with related farms/houses.
• Identifying "honours, baronies, lordships and liberties" -- we should be able to do a lot, just based on the name-strings of the TNA items. Cf the edits by Jo (?) here: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q105774008&type=revision&diff=1378016056&oldid=1376366749 We may need to do some research as to what estates each of the honours, baronies, lordships and liberties comprised. I think we do have items for such classes of things, but haven't checked in detail.
• The Derbyshire PDF we can probably strip to text reasonably easily. It appears to contain similar information to the Lancashire entry Jo gave above. As well as names in connection with ownership, particularly useful to extract could be sources, -> VCH ids, "described by source". Looking at the standard paragraphs, there's one for "geographical extent" that seems to be mostly blank. But also one for "Evidence for manorial status" - would that be worth capturing, and if so, what property might correspond to it ?

Manor-related items

AIM: Find items related to manors (on wikidata but also elsewhere, eg GB1900 and EPNS DEEP), and add statements to the manors to which they are related. This should give more accurate locations for where the manors were centred; and will help as a step along the path for reconciling content we may already have on particular estates to the TNA dataset.

• Focus list WP EMEW manor-related focus list (Q105894156)
  • results of query for items that are (i) within the UK, (ii) have 'manor' somewhere in their main label, and (iii) have instance of (P31) = some subclass of farmhouse (Q489357), house (Q3947), architectural structure (Q811979), building (Q41176), archaeological site (Q839954), English country house (Q1343246)

• A list of entries containing the word 'manor' has also been extracted from the GB1900 dataset.

Progress

• farmhouse (Q489357) matched to hits for "manor farm" in the GB1900 database.

• Ultimately will create items for "manor" hits in the GB1900 database which cannot be matched to wikidata items.