Wikidata:Wikimania 2016
- See also wm2016:Programme.
Hi all! I was asked to get the ball rolling with organizing the Wikidata sessions for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario (Q43049) (meta:Wikimania 2016). Basically we should gather
- things we are interested in for a presentations/talks
- things we would like to learn (tutorial/hackathon)
- ideas for speakers (especially for the user-digest presentation, i.e. "introduction to, and state of Wikidata").
Please dispatch this message to as many languages of the project chat as possible. Thank you for your help! --Tobias1984 (talk) 22:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Suggestions
editUser-Digest
editSuggest a person (or yourself) to give a user-digest presentation. Needs to be eloquent, interesting, easy-to-follow and mesmerizing :)
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Suggest guest speaker
editSuggest a guest speaker that should be invited that is not directly involved with Wikidata (Wikidata is a Game is a good example of a guest speaker).
- Tim Berners-Lee (Q80) @Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): Do you think he would come and can you ask him? Seems like an appropriate candidate. And so far the suggestion box is empty. --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:17, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Failing that, one of his colleagues form the ODI? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:33, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thomas Piketty (Q984448) Could talk about economic data. If anyone would be interested in that too, we could try to contact him. --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
- Brilliant idea! --Dick Bos (talk) 17:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
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Talks
editAdd topics for presentations and who should give them (also yourself):
- Presentation about ontology with the main characteristics of ontologies and the questions we should answer before starting to structure the data in WD. Currently we are creating relations between items but without any guidelines. It would be good to have a presentation about what kind of guideline we can apply and the consequences of the choice of some rules. Anybody working in the field of ontology can be a good candidate, we just need a overview of what is done about ontology now. Snipre (talk) 13:25, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
- Wikispecies - closer integration and then...? - I could give a talk and lead a discussion; or this could be a panel. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- I'd suggest a presentation of the redesign of the client editing by User:Incabell, who is writing her Bachelor's thesis on the topic. --Frimelle (talk) 16:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- I'd like to present the ArticlePlaceholder extension and collect feedback on it. --Frimelle (talk) 16:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Lighting talks
editSuggest topics for shorter presentations ("lighting talks"):
- ORCID - for editors, not just for items. I can give this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Wikidata tags in OSM - an update after Wikimania 2014 - I can give this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Learning and Hacking
editAdd things you would like to learn (e.g. SPARQL, running a bot) and add your name to the topic if you can teach it:
- I would definitly like to learn a lot about SPARQL and hope that somebody is willing to give an introduction. --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:31, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Tobias1984: If you would like to learn a bit about SPARQL before 2016, I hope Wikidata:SPARQL query service/queries gives a reasonably practical introduction. :-) Jheald (talk) 15:52, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- That is a very good introduction, but it would still be nice to sparql together (officially made it a verb today). --Tobias1984 (talk ) 16:20, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- I once made these slides for the Hackathon as a basic introcduction to SPARQL and RDF- maybe that helps. Would be in for some SPARQL on the Wikimania, too. --Frimelle (talk) 13:36, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Broader than just Wikidata: one day LUA workshop to get more people on board with that. Multichill (talk) 00:36, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Multichill: Maybe a "Build a Wikidata Infobox for your Wikipedia" workshop? There seems to be a lot of examples Category:Templates using data from Wikidata (Q11985372), so all we need is a cookbook, that we maybe can translate before the start of the conference. I would also be interested in how to set up a development and testing environment for such Lua modules. --Tobias1984 (talk) 09:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- Yes please to this! (From a user on cy.wp.) Ham II (talk) 19:15, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- Or a workshop to teach those that know LUA how to do the same with Python? This way, infoboxes could eventually be done in a language with a larger userbase. --- Jura 14:06, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Multichill: I remember us talking about it. But do you rather want to teach LUA or have more a Workshop like "LUA for Wikipedia"? Either way I still think it's a great idea! --Frimelle (talk) 13:36, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- Toolserver discovery - what tools are on the toolserver and how to use them. Perhaps run as mutual skillshare? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:41, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- I strongly support the last 3 proposals--Oursana (talk) 13:02, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Discussions
editWhat discussions/forums should be organized?
- What can we do to protect data against vandalism and bad data manipulation ? I think everyone knows about vandalism but I think we should take care about data manipulation. I spot the problem of bot work (data import, data cleaning, correction) modifying human contributions due to lack of data analysis: minimal checks before doing any modification are necessary and this should be a requirement for bots to be able to work in WD. (PS: I don't have any problem with bots but as WD is more accessible to bots, potential damages are bigger).
- Another discussion we could have is if we want to create proofed data sets which will be used as reference to identify data changes. For data from online databases this can be done by a tool or a boot on-line but for other data we should find a solution to keep data integrity aver the time. Snipre (talk) 13:52, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
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Posters
editPost the topic of a poster that you would like to present:
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Anything Else
editWhat else are you expecting from Wikimania 2016?
- For me, as a sysop in Arabic (AR) Wikipedia I find a lot of information in wikidata when an AR article is linked to other wikis. The problem is we have let's say 33% of the articles in AR without interwikis. So the Wikidata pages for those articles are completely empty. We need to wait for an interwiki to EN or FR to have the page boosted with other elements (gender, citizenship, commons, .. ). For example, this village in Yemen, it's gonna take years before we get an EN article about it, so its wikidata page will stay empty for a long time. And it's the same problem for the 31 199 other villages in Yemen. So what we need is a simple tool to help non-Latin based wikis to add wikidata data for articles without interwikis. May be by infoboxes or stub templates. I don't know. --Helmoony (talk) 16:43, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
- We could have a session for smallers wiki communities how they can get the most out of Wikidata. I think if the local communities can assist with translating labels a lot of other things can be done by others users, even though they don't speak the language (for example check the geo-coordinates). If we divide the labour in an intelligent way, the gains are potentially huge. --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:21, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- A sample application with an infobox for a locality or a person (like the cswiki ones) might be a good illustration. Maybe the unicorn extension can already do that (?). --- Jura 12:13, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Just another comment: Taking duplicity (https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/duplicity.php) as a rough measure, we have not reached out to a number of wikipedia communities yet. Uz-wiki has 16027 unconnected pages for example. We really need to invest in those problematic areas and find people that can mediate between the communities (An official ambassador page like Wikidata:Wikibooks/Get_involved) --Tobias1984 (talk) 12:27, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Connecting pages can be tricky .. some are connected, but don't have any statements. For languages that have some participation, you could also use something like this to measure the degree of involvement. --- Jura 14:17, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
- Yay, that's what I am actually working on with the ArticlePlaceholder extension (probably what was called the "unicorn extension" before :D ). It is not even close to be done, but there is a test setup with an example for Ada Lovelace in English to get a first sight into what it could look like later on. (I try to keep it up to date.) I'd be happy about anyone providing me with feedback or just come talk to me about it if you are interested! --Frimelle (talk) 13:12, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
- As we move beyond providing interwikis, external identifiers and coordinates, good samples of infoboxes with data entirely from Wikidata could be showcased. --- Jura 11:17, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
- Given some of the questions about sourcing (and quality), maybe the differences in approaches between some of the Wikipedia (one fact) and Wikidata (a series of ranked statements) need to be explained. --- Jura 11:17, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Questions
editPost questions here.