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Merge request: Britski's catfish edit

Latest comment: 5 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Britski's catfish (Q357243) is older and has 14 wikipedia articles connected to it. Corydoras britskii (Q28599144) refers to the same species of fish. Can someone merge the two, please? Thanks. Mateussf (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Mateussf: Generally on Wikidata, taxonomic synonyms are usually kept as separate items, even if they refer to the same thing. In this case, one is Brochis britskii and the other is Corydoras britskii. 115.188.127.196 11:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Data models pages edit

Latest comment: 6 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi. While studying the overall architecture of guidelines I have discovered the pages related to the concept of Wikidata:Data model. It's quite ironic that even within such "model" pages, there's a lack of uniformity, even in their titles. This is not an optimal situation for a platform which relies on increasing quality of its metadata.

To address this issue (and I suppose also partially streamline a possible long-due standardization process), User:Epìdosis and I have proposed a more complete categorization. You can now find all the alternative names that we have categorized listed here.

Additionally, I've shared a preliminary draft of a future navbox on this talk page.

While this task isn't easy, it's certainly necessary. It's not a priority for me at the moment and I may not have the time to tackle it completely or quickly (honestly I cannot say I wish to do so, it was just time to reduce this ongoing "chaos"), but if there are no objections or alternative suggestions, I plan at least to proceed with finalizing the navbox over the next few months. This should provide a more comprehensive overview and help reduce the inconsistency over the next years. Alexmar983 (talk) 19:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Does this address your concern? Wikidata:Database reports/EntitySchema directory JuguangXiao (talk) 02:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Long-term vandalism 62.43.191.154 edit

Latest comment: 4 days ago5 comments3 people in discussion

Found at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q30541537&diff=1905583343&oldid=1901236773

Each day edits are made from this IP there seems to be vandalism involved https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.43.191.154 Rostworowski (talk) 19:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Rostworowski his last edit was on 24 April 2024. Hence - stale request. Next time please post vandalism-related messages to Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard Estopedist1 (talk) 07:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
"his last edit was on 24 April 2024. Hence - stale request." - waht he, what request, what stale? Your message doesn't make any sense at all. Rostworowski (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
It does. Sanctions against IP addresses are seldom done in retrospection. They are meant to be protection, not punishment. And yes, your request should go to WD:AN. --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 06:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
No it doesn't. What sanctions do you talk about? And why wouldn't it be "protection" but "punishment" if this IP would be blocked? "And yes, your request should go to WD:AN" - which request? Not even one of your four sentences makes any sense. Rostworowski (talk) 23:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Network or Service Problems edit

Latest comment: 3 days ago5 comments3 people in discussion

When the service is fluctuating or absence for some days as in many towns in Nigeria how could someone edit or create a page? Rabiu tijjani (talk) 20:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Is overthrowing the government of Nigeria cheaper than getting Starlink? Infrastruktur (talk) 20:48, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Here in Nigeria, we are not overthrowing our government. Nigeria is a republican country, we are changing the government through election for every four (4) years period. Starlink may be get this or next government. Maibadali (talk) 15:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
It was said in jest, but the background for it is this: https://techpoint.africa/2019/11/28/nigerias-social-media-bill/ . Infrastruktur (talk) 19:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
good Maibadali (talk) 19:17, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Search priority edit

Latest comment: 4 days ago5 comments4 people in discussion

Hello,

for a while I have been wrapping my head around how Wikidata prioritizes entities when performing text search on the main Wikidata page (the input box in the right upper corner, e.g. why when writing human the results show human (Q5) on the first line and not something different). I have made a comment few weeks back, and was made familiar that Wikidata uses Elastic Search and probably this is the code mirror repository. I have been looking into it and found profile config files. But I still don't quite understand.

There are profiles for the EntitySearch and EntityPrefixSearch, which to my understand should be the main queries when performing search. Then there are the rescore config files, to my understanding rescore in Elastic is performed on results yilded by the main query. Looking into the files, the rescore functions prioritize entities that have many incoming links and sitelinks (two saturation functions with weights 0.6 and 0.4 while weight of query is 1 and weight of rescore query is 1, the final score should be sum of those scores), but I could not find where the rescore functions are used and whether there are more used somewhere (e.g. appending to a chain of rescore functions). Furthermore, the Elastic bm25 scores are not normalized to [0,1], is there some normalization step before rescoring? Since the rescore with incoming and sitelinks is in the interval [0,1].

Is there someone who would be please willing to explain the process step by step? Martin Gora (talk) 11:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Martin Gora: I don't think the developers are regularly checking this board. Maybe try Wikidata:Report a technical problem? ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
But “I’m curious how this works” is hardly a technical problem IMHO. (Also, given that it’s search-related, Wikidata:Report a technical problem/WDQS and Search would be a slightly better fit than the parent page.)
@Martin Gora: The search team holds monthly “Talk to the Search Platform / Query Service Team” open meetings (usually on the first Wednesday of each month; see May announcement), I think those would be a good venue for your question. Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE) (talk) 09:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Martin Gora CirrusSearch makes use of search profile to tune the retrieval and ranking functions depending on the use-cases. The list of search profiles can be extracted using the cirrus-profiles-dump API.
The search profile system has different types (similariry, ft_query_builder, rescore to name a few), knowing how they get assembled is far from trivial but you could get a sense by looking at the contexts section of the API results above, for instance wikibase_fulltext_search is the search context we use to rank results in Special:Search when selecting namespaces holding wikidata entities, if searching for other namespaces we fallback to the default context.
If you are curious you can see extract some debug information from the search system:
  • see how the query is actually built by appending &cirrusDumpQuery to your search URL
  • see how the explanation of how the scores are computed by appending &cirrusDumpResult&cirrusExplain=pretty to your search URL
  • you can also instruct CirrusSearch to a use particular profile by appending the uriParam listed in the overriders from the profiles API, e.g. you can force to use another rescore function by appending &cirrusRescoreProfile=profile_name to your search URL
We generally do not normalize the retrieval scores before applying the rescore window functions indeed, given the wide variety of fields we use, it would be hard, I think, to get to reasonable normalization function. This means that the more words you have in your query the more impactful the text matches will be, which I think is reasonable. For wikis where we have enough data we train a model that results in a decision tree (Q831366) which is less prone to normalization problems.
As suggested by Lucas please feel free to join one of our office hours we would be happy to explain this to you in more details. DCausse (WMF) (talk) 19:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello,
I want to thank you - @ArthurPSmith, @Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE), and @DCausse (WMF)) - for your helpful comments. I will definitely try to join the montly meeting.
Best regards, Martin Gora (talk) 11:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata weekly summary #627 edit

Latest comment: 6 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion
 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
This is the Wikidata summary of the week before 2024-05-13.
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Wikidata to split as sheer volume of information overloads infrastructure
Bovlb (talk) 15:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Zhakiyanov (Q42309946) edit

Latest comment: 4 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

What should be done with this incorrect item ? Not a given name but a surname as the English Wikipedia article says. Kpjas (talk) 19:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done LockaPicker (talk) 16:42, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Coordinates display in decimal edit

Latest comment: 8 hours ago9 comments6 people in discussion

I prefer to add coordinates in decimal format and would like to see them in decimal rather than DMS format. Is there a gadget like thing that can help with this? Arjunaraoc (talk) 14:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm not aware of one. If you want to write your own, I'd start by looking at Wikidata:Tools/Enhance_user_interface#Userscripts_to_enhance_the_display_of_values. Bovlb (talk) 15:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Why is the default DMS? There is en:ISO 6709. If I understand it right, they say: "Fraction of degrees (decimal degrees) is preferred in digital data exchange, while sexagesimal notation is tolerated for compatibility". Please can we change the default? --sk (talk) 09:29, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sexagesimal is easily divisible for humans. Coordinate notation in DMS is mostly historical at this point, made irrelevant by the advent of computers. And I still see coordinates presuming to be accurate to 10000th of a second on Wikidata, which is dubious seing as commercial GPS is accurate to between 1-10 meters. If mathematicians ruled the world we'd probably have coordinates based on radians instead. :P Infrastruktur (talk) 10:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'd vote to change the default to decimal. Its easier to mentally compare 2 numbers at the precision level I'm interested in, and copy the information out to other places. Vicarage (talk) 10:36, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I support. Arjunaraoc (talk) 14:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would have no objection to switching to decimal. Bovlb (talk) 03:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
"digital data exchange" means things like APIs and file formats (things designed for computers to read). How it should be displayed for humans to read is a different matter, which that page covers in the section "Representation at the human interface (Annex D)". - Nikki (talk) 15:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Nikki, Thanks for providing the link, which helps clarify the current situation. I think a gadget is certainly required to add adding decimal display a, as it is more convenient and less error prone for humans also to work with. Arjunaraoc (talk) 00:35, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

WikiProject Postcards: New Properties for address side informations on Postcards edit

Latest comment: 6 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

For the WikiProject Postcards on Commons it would be helpful to also capture data of the Address Side of a Postcard e.g. the name of the addressee and the acutal address of the addressee in SDC in Commons. I therefore thought of new Poperties such as name of addressee, address of addressee and name of sender, address of sender. I have no experience in making a Property Porposal and thought of sharing the idea in order to get feedback. What are your thoughts about these new properties? I opened a Discussion on the Project Page about this property idea. CuratorOfThePast (talk) 20:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

When it comes to the name of the sender of a post card, I would say that the sender is the author (P50) of the post card. The property for the addressee on the other hand is addressee (P1817). If we don't have a Wikidata item for either you can use unknown value Help with subject named as (P1810).
We have street address (P6375) that could be used as a qualifier on author (P50)/addressee (P1817). I don't see a need for a new property. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

merge/redirect for Q85755870 (David Miles (actor)) to Q18577677 (David Miles) edit

Latest comment: 7 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I think the correct thing to do is to leave Q18577677 in place, adding "David Miles (actor)" for the English Wikipedia entry, change Q85755870 to be a redirect to Q18577677.

These refer to the same actor/director who lived from 1871 to 1915.

I read about the automatic merge gadget, but I didn't like the fact that I couldn't selectively control which information would be overlaid, so I had no confidence that it wouldn't overlay valid existing content in Q18577677. Fabrickator (talk) 23:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

The automatic merge gadget will transfer all information without any loss or overwriting (except for descriptions). Selective control is possible, simply remove wrong information from either item before or after merging (doing so after merging has the advantage that you can immediately see the result and possible redundancies, contradictions, etc.). --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 07:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

merge request edit

Latest comment: 6 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Q118902743 and Q125727764 treat exactly the same. I wanted to merge them but was not able to. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Paradise Chronicle:   Done. Jonathan Groß (talk) 16:47, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

How to link wind direction with the direction? edit

Latest comment: 6 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion

As north wind (Q21332443) (southbound) is related with north (Q659) and south (Q667) , are there properties to define 'from' and 'to' for direction? JuguangXiao (talk) 02:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

How to relate a intercardinal direction (Q10351538) to cardinal direction (Q23718) (s) ? edit

Latest comment: 6 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Example: northeast (Q6497686) to north (Q659) and east (Q684).

First of all, it is agreed on cardinal direction (Q23718) is primary type and intercardinal direction (Q10351538) is secondary? So that the instance of secondary type should refer to of primary type, not the other way round?

Secondly, is there a property to indicate the "composed of/with" or alike? as northeast (Q6497686) is composed with north (Q659) and east (Q684).

Lastly, Is there a way to define the serial relation that if I want to say north (Q659)followed by (P156)northeast (Q6497686), in clockwise direction (Q16726164) by 45 degrees ? JuguangXiao (talk) 02:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Geolocate edit

Latest comment: 3 days ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, I want to create a new statement about "Battle of Seseña" (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q923995), because i want to include a "coordinate location". I don´t know how to do it, that's the reason i'm writting this. Thank you in advance. Elena ElenaGarciadeDiego (talk) 10:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

On mobile it is not implemented to add statements yet, on desktop see Help:Statements#Adding_statements LockaPicker (talk) 12:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
You don't need to create a new object for the location, just enter them in the format 52°30'59"N, 13°22'40"E LockaPicker (talk) 11:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh okay, it was easier than i thought. Thanks!! ElenaGarciadeDiego (talk) 07:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ernest Hemingway edit

Latest comment: 5 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Cheers,

Why is there a need for two Ernest Hemingway items? "Category:Ernest Hemingway (Q8421635)" seems redundant to "Ernest Hemingway (Q23434)." Clearly, (Q23434) should be the only item.

Is the problem in Wiki Commons where there are two items - Category:Ernest Hemingway and Ernest Hemingway. Is this a problem that needs to be addressed in Commons first?

Color me confused

Mtjannetta (talk) 17:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

No, they are not redundant. There are many projects, including the English Wikipedia, which contain both an article and a category on Hemingway. Ymblanter (talk) 18:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Better sources edit

Latest comment: 5 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I have a question: The references that required for the date of birth can come from other databases? Are they considered reliable? because on Wikipedia, they are not considered reliable sources.

Thank you very much! D.S. Lioness (talk) 18:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

The constraint asks for a reference, it does not ask for the reference needing to meet certain criteria. Using common sense is advised when picking references. Even in those cases where sources are unreliable and can be quite useful to know what source was used for a given claim. On the other hand, putting a lot of unreliable data into Wikidata isn't a good idea. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 00:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Complicated undo needed edit

Latest comment: 1 day ago4 comments2 people in discussion

An inadvertent merge of Leucothoe grayana (Q11326559) and Eubotryoides (Q25414350) was accidentally initiated by me when I moved an article that I created on en.Wiki, Eubotryoides grayana, to Eubotryoides (since it is monotypic). It seems that this dragged along a Wikidata item. Then a newbie user with only five edits merged that item with another with the same name. What I would like is the merge undone, then the automated Wikidata move(?) undone, to get everything back to the names and item IDs they had before. Abductive (talk) 20:02, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have undone the merge, but I'm not sure whether there is more that ought to be done. Bovlb (talk) 20:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, that seems to have taken care of it. Abductive (talk) 10:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. Bovlb (talk) 03:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Query Service and unknown for dates of birth and death edit

Latest comment: 4 days ago4 comments3 people in discussion

I did some albeit non-exhaustive searching before posting this.

If a value for "unknown" is added to the "date of birth" or "date of death" fields for a person's wikidata item, the Query Service presents in the query output an odd url with a base of http://www.wikidata.org/.well-known/genid/ and a terminal value which looks like a checksum, for example "792cc70929f20df5f1726b74e278a715". The composed URLS always return a "page not found" error. The query I pulled this particular ID from is shown below in a pre/pre block. What I'm wondering is whether this expected behavior or not. Maybe it is a known bug that has not been addressed? Thanks for considering this question. --Ceyockey (talk) 02:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply 

SELECT ?person ?article ?DOB ?DOD ?DESC
WHERE
{
  ?person wdt:P31 wd:Q5 .   # human
  ?person wdt:P734 wd:Q5195456 .
  ?article schema:about ?person . 
  ?article schema:isPartOf <https://en.wikipedia.org/>.
  OPTIONAL {?person wdt:P569 ?DOB }
  OPTIONAL {?person wdt:P570 ?DOD }
  OPTIONAL {?person schema:description ?DESC}
  FILTER(LANG(?DESC) = "en")
}
ORDER BY ?article

Ceyockey (talk) 02:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Request_a_query has helpful people Vicarage (talk) 11:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think this is just an oddity of the way we store unknown values. See mw:Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format#Special_values. Also, you might like to use the {{SPARQL}} template when quoting SPARQL. Bovlb (talk) 16:58, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Opinions on data structure edit

Latest comment: 4 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

So, I wanted to add the position in the world ranking list for top 100 chess players each month. Now I wonder what structure should be preferred.

Magnus Carlsen (Q106807)Elo rating (P1087)2906point in time (P585)+2024-04
Magnus Carlsen (Q106807)ranking (P1352)1determination method (P459)Elo rating system (Q105955)point in time (P585)+2024-04

or

Magnus Carlsen (Q106807)Elo rating (P1087)2906ranking (P1352)1point in time (P585)+2024-04

LockaPicker (talk) 11:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I know little about chess, but the first seems sufficient. The elo ranking can be deduced from a sorted query, and it would not make rankings based on other ratings to be harder to query Vicarage (talk) 11:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

After the mayor kitty … edit

Latest comment: 2 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

the graduate cat ! @Denny:. author  TomT0m / talk page 17:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

That's great news! No Wikidata item for Dr Dow yet? :D --Denny (talk) 18:07, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Priority in alias handling edit

Latest comment: 3 days ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Using this as an example, and the related english article: if you have two names that refer to the same concept (oil body and oleosome), with only one present as a page in en:wikipedia (oil body), is it sufficient to add the synonym (oleosome) as an alias to the corresponding wikidata item (by doing this I was able to search for "oleosome" using the internal search function and have the suggestion for "oil body" pop up), or should I also create a redirect page (oleosome -> oil body)? Salusbibbi (talk) 18:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

edit: I noticed the redirect I was talking about already exists, and this was probably the reason for the search results. Anyway, the question still stands in general, but I imagine the indexing in the internal search (and possibly also external) comes exclusively/preferentially from redirects, instead of aliases, so the former should be preferred. Am I right? Salusbibbi (talk) 18:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Search in Wikidata is independent from Wikipedia pages. Aliases matter for your Wikidata search but don't have an effect on what you see when you search within Wikipedia. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 15:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

"author" and "author name string" edit

Latest comment: 3 days ago5 comments4 people in discussion

If "author" is added, is it necessary to remove "author name string" ? Or will a bot do it ? Io Herodotus (talk) 19:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Does it need removing at all? It seems to me that capturing how the author is identified in the referenced work itself may be important, even if the author has an item. M2Ys4U (talk) 20:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@M2Ys4U, yes, it should be removed. If you're able to include author (P50), then add subproperty object named as (P1932) with the name as given in the source. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Generally, I would only expect only one of either for a series ordinal (P1545) value, but to have both isn't a thing that needs to be fixed. Also the author (P50) should have all the same references and qualifiers from the original. In addition, the new statement should have a qualifier of object named as (P1932) with the value of whatever was the previous value of author name string (P2093).
Here is an example of how that might look: [1]. In that example I'm using the tool Author Disambiguator (Q76693569) to make the update. It's a nice tool that can combine both instances.
In regards to whether there are bots that automatically do that, I don't think there are because often times scientific articles have data imported from two sources where the author data is different, mostly when different editions of the same work are erroneously merged. William Graham (talk) 21:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I thought "author" means : there is an identified page
"author name string" means : there is no page yet Io Herodotus (talk) 21:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Merge "Galician films" and "Filmes de Galicia" categories edit

Latest comment: 23 hours ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello everyone, I'd like to request the merge of the following items on Wikidata: Q125962414 (Category:Galician films) Q9908259 (Categoría:Filmes de Galicia); Both refer to the same category and should be merged to avoid duplications. Additionally, I'm encountering issues when trying to add the tag "Category:Filmes de Galicia" to item Q125962414 due to the pre-existence of this tag in Q9908259. I would greatly appreciate it if an administrator could assist in merging them. Thank you for your help! 92.176.79.149 21:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done (no need to be admin). VIGNERON (talk) 08:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Merging Category:Food of the United States into Category:Food and drink in the United States edit

Latest comment: 1 day ago4 comments3 people in discussion

Category:Food of the United States (Q111318637) should be merged into Category:Food and drink in the United States (Q8463135), but the merge failed when I tried to do that. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:08, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Same for Category:Kirksville, Missouri (Q65735906) into Kirksville (Q966460). jlwoodwa (talk) 05:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure if the first should be merged as one is "food" and the other is "food and drink". The second should not be merged as one is a category and the other is not. If the only sitelink was Commons it could be moved to Q966460 and then Q65735906 could be deleted, but there is also a German Wikipedia category that would not be suitable for Q966460 (and could not be merged as it conflicts with the sitelink already there). Peter James (talk) 17:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agree, both should definitely not be merged. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 07:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Can grants fully fund a scholarly article and are there any examples in Wikidata? edit

Latest comment: 3 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I'm interested in if a grant can sort of fully fund a scholarly article so that I could add funder (P8324)...or at least correlate a funding grant to a scholarly article. I looked at an orcid of a researcher and under funding I found many grants...but I had no idea if these can correlate to any actual scholarly papers. It looks more like grants are something like "we plan to do some things" but I get the impression that can't correlate to any research...

Is there any data on Wikidata where specifical scholarly articles were funded by grants and can you please link me a few scholarly articles here so I can see them.

Maybe I need to do some work, I don't know interview some charities and researchers who provide grants to get to this information?

Is this data simply not available? If yes, is there a reason why? AutismresearchNeedsupdates (talk) 08:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Let's look at the example where the NIAID funded Coronavirus gain-of-function research in Wuhan. Baric, Shi et al published A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence (Q36702376). In it, they have a Acknowledgements section in which they say: "Research in this manuscript was supported by grants from the National Institute of Allergy & Infectious Disease and the National Institute of Aging of the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) under awards U19AI109761 (R.S.B.), U19AI107810 (R.S.B.), AI085524 (W.A.M.), F32AI102561 (V.D.M.) and K99AG049092 (V.D.M.), and by the National Natural Science Foundation of China awards 81290341 (Z.-L.S.) and 31470260 (X.-Y.G.), and by USAID-EPT-PREDICT funding from EcoHealth Alliance (Z.-L.S.)."
If you Google for U19AI109761 you find https://govtribe.com/award/federal-grant-award/cooperative-agreement-u19ai109761 where the grant gets explained but we currently don't have a Wikidata item for that grant. It would be possible for someone to upload those federal grants to Wikidata and run an LLM on the Acknowledgements sections of papers to get the data to link it to papers. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Protect Q1922726 edit

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My edit of this page get regularly reverted by someone without an account. they remove the abolishment date even though I have sources. Could it be possible to protect this page? Jhowie Nitnek 08:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

request edit

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hi, please can someone link en:twitch streamer to Twitch streamer (Q50279140) with intentional sitelink to redirect (Q70894304)? i'm an IP address so it's not letting me add it with the badge. 82.132.221.123 13:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Done. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 15:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Logainm ID edit

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I merged Ballyforan (Q4076806) and Ballyforan (Q104337829) but now I realize they had different Logainm IDs with different outlines, can someone figure out what distinguishes the two entities so I can restore Q104337829. RAN (talk) 18:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

If you look at the maps at Logainm it seems like one is bigger than the other. Besides that ChatGPT has to say about the difference "The second link, https://www.logainm.ie/ga/42580, provides more detailed historical context regarding the place name "Béal Átha Feorainne." It includes various historical forms and references, such as different name spellings from records dating back to the 16th and 17th centuries, and linguistic insights into the name's evolution. This additional information is not present in the first link, which focuses more on the modern aspects and current usage of the place name." ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 21:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
https://www.logainm.ie/ga/42580 is the townland (townland (Q2151232)), and https://www.logainm.ie/en/1414615/ is the population centre (a village, most of which is in the townland, with a few buildings in Coolatober (Q104337977)). I don't know whether to combine these and use subject has role (P2868) on the identifiers or keep them separate - civil parishes and villages in England are usually combined even if a few houses in the village are outside the parish boundary, but in Ireland there can be a townland, civil parish (containing several townlands) and village all with the same name, and Logainm has identifiers for each but sometimes an identifier does not distinguish. Peter James (talk) 15:34, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

What to do with Karim Ahmad Khan (Q105209571)? edit

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I was updating Karim Ahmad Khan (Q6370541) and noticed there was an identical item at Karim Ahmad Khan (Q105209571). I was going to merge them but noticed that Karim Ahmad Khan (Q105209571) seems to originally have been another person which was merged into Tommy Jones-Davies (Q7819577). What's the recommended course of action? Piecesofuk (talk) 18:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

It was about another person for less than a minute after creation, and then a redirect for a few minutes before being used again (all by the editor who created the item). I don't think that's the same a repurposing an item that had existed for some time or was created by another editor - when duplicating an item it can take more than a minute to change the statements that need changing. Peter James (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's okay, somebody else has merged it now. I was under the impression that merged items should never be reused in any circumstances https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Merge (I noticed in this case that in Karim Ahmad Khan (Q105209571) most of the labels still referred to the original item https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q105209571&oldid=2140576186) Piecesofuk (talk) 08:15, 21 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata to split as sheer volume of information overloads infrastructure edit

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From the 16 May 2024 issue of The Signpost (Q16639816)

Wikidata to split as sheer volume of information overloads infrastructure (Q126011233) Bluerasberry (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • It looks like scholarly articles will have their own database called Wikicite, the authors and topics will be linked to the Wikidata entries. --RAN (talk) 00:52, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
isn't this headline misleading? wikidata is not splitting. the query service is. BrokenSegue (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree that the headline is misleading. The change is being made to the Wikidata Query Service, not Wikidata proper. It's unclear whether the author of the op-ed understands the nuance or not. -- William Graham (talk) 02:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikidata weekly summary #628 edit

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
This is the Wikidata summary of the week before 2024-05-20. Please help Translate.

Discussions

  • New requests for permissions/Bot:
    • Browse9ja Bot - Task: Automated data retrieval focusing on Nigerian / African-based information, integrating a chatbot, NLP API, knowledge graph, and machine learning model.
    • DhlizBot - Task: add Dhliz ID (P12696) for persons/films/TV series that exist in Dhliz (Q125594802) database.
    • AmeisenBot 2 - Task: Working on bot requests at WD:RBOT using QuickStatements.

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  • Wikidata GenderStats measures gender bias at the user level by computing stats on created items.
  • Created items : a list of items created by a user with labels. This not new but this has been repaired.

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  • We have completed the preparation work to migrate the Query Builder's front end from Wikit to Codex (phab:T360096)
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Feedback invited on Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle edit

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Dear community members,

The Community Affairs Committee (CAC) of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees invites you to give feedback on a draft Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle. This draft Procedure outlines proposed steps and requirements for opening and closing Wikimedia Sibling Projects, and aims to ensure any newly approved projects are set up for success. This is separate from the procedures for opening or closing language versions of projects, which is handled by the Language Committee or closing projects policy.

You can find the details on this page, as well as the ways to give your feedback from today until the end of the day on June 23, 2024, anywhere on Earth.

You can also share information about this with the interested project communities you work with or support, and you can also help us translate the procedure into more languages, so people can join the discussions in their own language.

On behalf of the CAC,

RamzyM (WMF) 02:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Attribution text edit

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At Halsted House (Q96358236) "attribution text" is giving an error. When I looked to see how it was used at another The Musicians (Q655705) it is used the same way with the same error message, any ideas? RAN (talk) 05:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

The property is designed for use on structured data on Commons and should not be used on Wikidata itself. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 07:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
+1, this property was not meant for that (as indicated on the constraint itself). I see that DaxServer did a big import using this property wrongly. I guess it should be removed (or moved, maybe as a qualifier of collection (P195) ?). Also ping Fuzheado. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 08:52, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ah, I didn't notice the constraint. I'll remove it. But where should the credit line go, as described in MET object https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/132 ? DaxServer (talk) 09:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
collection doesn't seem to have the attribution text, but has a donated by (P1028). However, not all cases in the MET collection were donated with some being purchased. MET doesn't have that data categorized and just puts everything under "creditLine" DaxServer (talk) 09:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • @DaxServer: Ah, now I get it. I have seen that error message before. Is there anyway the error message could be reworded to say "this property is to be used exclusively for structured data at Commons" instead of how it is currently worded? Is there a specific reason it is not allowed at Wikidata? Does it have to do with copyright of the attribution sentence? --RAN (talk) 17:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

January 1, 1900 versus 1900 edit

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Is there a way we can identify where we have a full date and year only date and automatically give a "preferred rank" to the full date? I may have brought it up before, but I am still processing them by hand when I identify them. RAN (talk) 05:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think it is done, with some caveats, by Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/BorkedBot 5 (@BrokenSegue:). Epìdosis 05:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation and similar deprivation indexes edit

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Dear all

I was wondering if there is an existing mechanism in Wikidata for adding datasets connected to deprivation indexes, such as the Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation (SIMD) and POLAR in England?

This data is currently available under a OGL3.0 and provides rich population-level data on access to healthcare, education, income levels, rurality etc. It is comprised of datazones that are ranked approximately every 4 years and are used heavily by Scottish Government and local authorities to decide on policy changes. It is currently available for 2012, 2016 and 2020, with the next one in 2026, in an XML format. More info about 2020, including the type of data that can be downloaded, are available here.


Any thoughts about whether it is suitable for adding to Wikidata, or whether it would be better as a standalone Wikibase would be deeply appreciated. Drkirstyross (talk) 10:58, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't think in principle including them would be a problem, similar to any other demographic data, but there's a major practical issue: what items would we put these on? The published data zones are MSOA or similar, very small areas - and we don't tend to have items corresponding to those geographies. We'd have to duplicate that hierarchy and then tie them back into existing regions, which would be tricky. Andrew Gray (talk) 13:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
That's the tricky thing. Some areas are small (a couple of streets in some cases) but others are vast (those in the Highlands and Islands) as they are designed to encompass ~500 members of the population. Each datazone can contain multiple postcodes and/or council authorities. The ranking from each year is one thing, but it is made up of a plethora of measures that might be really useful additional information.
In the interests of transparency, I am hoping to combine various open population datasets as part of an undergraduate degree module I am coordinating in September 2023, so it would be amazing if the data were incorporated into Wikidata. It won't be the end of the world if it couldn't be done and/or done by then. Apologies, not really answering your question Andrew! Just wanted to start a conversation about it, as I imagine that there are similar governmental datasets available elsewhere. Drkirstyross (talk) 15:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Q11639308 and Q56651571 edit

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decommissioned (Q11639308) and out of service (Q56651571) are two terms used to describe the state of use (P5817) property. In my opinion, there is no difference between these items, so I propose to merge them. If this difference exists, just I don’t see it, please point out what it is, to make it possible to note this fact in the description of the items (especially in the case of out of service (Q56651571), the description is now meaningless). I think the items also should have the different from (P1889) property added then (as in not in operation (Q111802839)). Pyrlandczyk (talk) 08:19, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

perpetrator of holocaust edit

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Hi everyone,

the statement perpetrator of Holocaust is not added anywhere.

Here is the fitting SPARQL statement 

SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?itemLabel WHERE {
SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE]". }
 {
   SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE {
     ?item p:P8031 ?statement0.
     ?statement0 (ps:P8031/(wdt:P279*)) wd:Q113546439.
   }
   LIMIT 100
 } 
 }

There is a Wikipedia category that lists those people. How do I go about batch adding those statements?

I can pipe together the various api's , but maybe there is a better way. also, if there is some kind of sandbox api endpoint, I'd be very interested as not to break anything.

Is this the right endpoint for adding a claim?


lastly, the Adolf Hitler entity is protected, so can an admin please ad purpotrator of holocaust to that enity?


best wishes. FerhatUnvar (talk) 08:29, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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